Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:48:30 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 13:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > * "localh

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:05:11PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > show mea link to the doc that explains that please > Cheers, Gene Heskett. There's not "the doc", but many of them. For starters, rfc5735 [1] tells us that the whole subnet 127.0.0.0/8 is available for loopback purposes (I've

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Aug 2023 at 07:48:54 (+0800), jeremy ardley wrote: > On 3/8/23 07:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > > > > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. > > > > > > > > > Tr

Re: perl module listgarden

2023-08-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 03:18:12PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 8/2/23 14:03, Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to proceed. I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden. metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden mo

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
debian-user@lists.debian.org On 8/2/23, piorunz wrote: > On 02/08/2023 22:29, Celejar wrote: >> The Z440 officially supports up to an NVIDIA Quadro K6000 12GB, which >> draws 234 watts, so it ought to be able to handle my Red Devil RX-570. >> The Red Devil specifies a minimum system power of 450 w

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 > entry? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution I'm sure there are others, but this was the first one I

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 16:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its for. https://www.debian.org/do

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 16:26, David Wright wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored versi

Re: Follow the specs :) (was Re: AMD GPU hard lockups)

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 19:30, zithro wrote: On 02 Aug 2023 23:29, Celejar wrote: > But reputable companies do produce 6-8 pin adapters, e.g.: [...] > (I just ordered the Cable Matters one.) Out of curiosity, I checked the links. Funny that "reputable companies" (I'm not attacking you, but them) don't even

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 17:02, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version that

Re: Follow the specs :) (was Re: AMD GPU hard lockups)

2023-08-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 01:29:42 +0200 zithro wrote: > On 02 Aug 2023 23:29, Celejar wrote: > > But reputable companies do produce 6-8 pin adapters, e.g.: > [...] > > (I just ordered the Cable Matters one.) > > Out of curiosity, I checked the links. > Funny that "reputable companies" (I'm not attac

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread zithro
On 03 Aug 2023 01:25, Celejar wrote: I'm not sure I understand your point: if we assume that the fact that my adapter burned indicates that my particular adapter must have been of very poor quality, than this implies that such adapters in general are not dangerous (which, as I've noted, is suppor

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 17:02, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version that

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/23 07:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its for. https://www.debian.org/d

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
> On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. > > > > > True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its > > for. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-r

Follow the specs :) (was Re: AMD GPU hard lockups)

2023-08-02 Thread zithro
On 02 Aug 2023 23:29, Celejar wrote: > But reputable companies do produce 6-8 pin adapters, e.g.: [...] > (I just ordered the Cable Matters one.) Out of curiosity, I checked the links. Funny that "reputable companies" (I'm not attacking you, but them) don't even specify the max power rating as p

127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: > > > > No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored > > > > version that suits y

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:37:50 +0100 piorunz wrote: > On 02/08/2023 22:29, Celejar wrote: > > The Z440 officially supports up to an NVIDIA Quadro K6000 12GB, which > > draws 234 watts, so it ought to be able to handle my Red Devil RX-570. > > The Red Devil specifies a minimum system power of 450 wat

Re: perl module listgarden

2023-08-02 Thread David Christensen
On 8/2/23 14:03, Russell L. Harris wrote: I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to proceed. I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden. metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module. Here is the output: perl listgarden.pl Can't locate ListGard

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread piorunz
On 02/08/2023 22:29, Celejar wrote: The Z440 officially supports up to an NVIDIA Quadro K6000 12GB, which draws 234 watts, so it ought to be able to handle my Red Devil RX-570. The Red Devil specifies a minimum system power of 450 watts, and my Z440's PSU is 700 watts: More detailed info: https

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 23:12:02 +0200 zithro wrote: > On 02 Aug 2023 03:21, Celejar wrote: > > when I opened the case, sure enough, the > > cable feeding the GPU had burned and broken. > > > > Fortunately, I don't see damage to the system's power cable or to the > > GPU itself, just to the 6 pin to

Re: AMD GPU hard lockups

2023-08-02 Thread zithro
On 02 Aug 2023 03:21, Celejar wrote: when I opened the case, sure enough, the cable feeding the GPU had burned and broken. Fortunately, I don't see damage to the system's power cable or to the GPU itself, just to the 6 pin to 8 pin PCIE adapter cable (the HP PSU has only 6 pin cables, and the GP

perl module listgarden

2023-08-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to proceed. I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden. metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module. Here is the output: perl listgarden.pl Can't locate ListGarden.pm in @INC (you may need to install

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 15:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. Either deleted, or not provided by Armbian in the first place. In any case, it's not immediately relevant to this thread's issue, so long

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a censored version that suits you. ok, same cat in full: gene@bpi52:~$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Lee
On 8/2/23, Brian wrote: > On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 14:52:26 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: >> > No - that isn't the way it works. Give what is asked for, not a >> > censored >> > version that suits you. >> > >> ok, same cat in full: >> gene@bpi52:~$ cat /etc/hosts >> 127

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. Either deleted, or not provided by Armbian in the first place. In any case, it's not immediately relevant to this thread's issue, so long as the web service doesn't redirect to

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Andy Smith
Gene, On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 02:05:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > this is a blatent attack by chrome You've absolutely no evidence to suggest that, and other people have already pointed out they are unable to replicate your issues. Like almost every thread you start or derail here this is ove

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 14:26, Brian wrote: On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 13:07:13 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to repr

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 13:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 09:42, Stefan Monnier wrote: It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on his end. I'm still leaning toward an edited /etc/hosts file. My guess is that his Chrome runs in a kind of container

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > > > [...] > > > > It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous [...] It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on his end. I

Re: OT: Protecting electrical equipment; was: Recommendations for a UPS?

2023-08-02 Thread gene heskett
On 8/1/23 18:46, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 1:09 PM gene heskett > wrote: On 8/1/23 11:03, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 2:40 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net >

Re: OT: Re: Recommendations for a UPS?

2023-08-02 Thread john doe
On 7/31/23 20:47, Tom Browder wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 13:28 john doe wrote: On 7/31/23 19:23, Tom Browder wrote: ... Any recommenndations from fellow Debian folks? I have two APC and I'm pretty happy with those. Would you mind saying the model numbers? Do they have replaceable

Re: CVE-2022-27385 - Vendor Dependency Check In

2023-08-02 Thread to...@tuxteam.de
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:58:21PM +, Julius Ross (juliross) wrote: > Thank you for getting back to me, Tomas, [...] Great if I could help. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: CVE-2022-27385 - Vendor Dependency Check In

2023-08-02 Thread Julius Ross (juliross)
Thank you for getting back to me, Tomas, I’ll continue looking into their available options for the ask – for reference, I was looking for something similar to Ubuntu’s Cononcial service, where cases can be created for tracking. Best, Julius Ross Security Engineer - Vulnerability Management |

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It would be nice if we had an exact recipe for how to reproduce the > problem. Failing that, it'll be up to Gene to debug the situation on > his end. I'm still leaning toward an edited /etc/hosts file. My guess is that his Chrome runs in a kind of container that doesn't have access to the host

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > In the case of the latter, are you wanting to use the localhost scheme to > access the resource called 80 (now, you're going to say "There is no > protocol called localhost" and I think that Ch

Re: homebrew for debian or ubuntu

2023-08-02 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Homebrew only supports the last release or two on MacOS. Today, you > might see support for Version 13: "Ventura" and Version 12: > "Monterey". Anything else and you had to use MacPorts. Or pkgsrc*, which isn't quite as popular but supports (or can be made to support) prett

Re: chrome web browser worthless

2023-08-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 01/08/2023 10:33, gene heskett wrote: Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. I think this comes down to an amb

Re: CVE-2022-27385 - Vendor Dependency Check In

2023-08-02 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-08-01, Julius Ross (juliross) wrote: > We're looking for a contact or direction on gaining updates on open > vulnerabilities relating to known CVEs. Can you point us to the correct forum > or support email address? We want to be able to track these vulnerabilities > and when fixes become a