Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On Wed 26 Apr 2023 at 09:14:25 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: > > Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): [ … ] > P.S. Nicolas, it seems your mailer has issues with parsing or > formatting timestamps. Don't knock it! The Human Era is much easier for us to parse th

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 09:34:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: > > > > user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) > > find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- > > should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in > thi

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in this case. ... -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 126 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was inform

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Can't install correctly the compiler in my computer Debian 5.10.162-1 (2023-01-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux > DOSBox version 0.74-3 > I get the following error when i want compile 1. *Invalid drive or directory. Press ESC. * 2. *C:\BIN\BORRAR.C: Unable to create output file 'C:\TC20\OUTPUT\BORR

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-26): > EFI variables are not supported on this system. To install GRUB in UEFI, you need to have booted the kernel in UEFI. Try to find a live image that does, and you can reinstall GRUB from there. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Here's the output you requested: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/boot/efi drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/debian -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 15:21:50 (+), Bonno Bloksma wrote: > I consider not having nftable enabled by default in bookworm a bug, let me > explain why... > > >> It seems the bookworm release comes with NO firewall solution enabled ! > >> Iptables is no longer installed by default > >> The nft s

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Re: Debian support for AMD GPU applications

On 4/25/23 01:30, jeremy ardley wrote: Is there any reliable source of information to install computational back-ends using AMD GPUs on Debian 11? I have found some references to packages such as rocm-dev on repo.radeon.com but they are all ubuntu related and won't install in Debian 11. In

Re: Boot an EFI system with QEMU

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:00:21PM +0200, Valentin Caracalla wrote: >Hello Steve, > >thanks a lot for the tip! However, I'm a complete novice when it comes to >running custom firmware in QEMU. I just tried the following: > >1.: Download the latest EDK2 release from Github: > >https://github.com/ti

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything > >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with > >less. > Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was information. Make your own advice with it.

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Nicolas George wrote: >Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): >> 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by >> https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work

Re: Boot an EFI system with QEMU

Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-25): > thanks a lot for the tip! However, I'm a complete novice when it comes to > running custom firmware in QEMU. I just tried the following: > > 1.: Download the latest EDK2 release from Github: I could boot a VM with a UEFI bootloader using only files packaged by

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

Am 25.04.2023 um 15:43 schrieb David Wright: > On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 09:11:23 (+0200), DdB wrote: (...) > > The problem lies with the user accounts 101–999 (and releated groups), > which are system accounts created in a somewhat random manner as > packages are installed on each system. Those ≤100

Boot an EFI system with QEMU

Hello Steve, thanks a lot for the tip! However, I'm a complete novice when it comes to running custom firmware in QEMU. I just tried the following: 1.: Download the latest EDK2 release from Github: https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/archive/refs/tags/edk2-stable202302.tar.gz 2.: Extract the OVM

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): > 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by > https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Regards, --

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

On 25/04/2023 21:40, Valentin Caracalla wrote: I checked my partition table using "sudo parted /dev/sda print" Number  Start   End    Size   File system  Name  Flags 1  1049kB  128GB  128GB  fat32    init  boot, esp 2  128GB   256GB  128GB  ext4 root Please, show

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusing the wrong driver

On 2023-04-24, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:44 PM Curt wrote: >> [ ...] >> >> I bought a HL-L2350DW not too long ago after my HL-2030 experienced a paper >> jam >> that wouldn't go away even though there was no longer any visible paper >> stuck anywhere and in my infinite pa

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

Bonno Bloksma wrote: ... > Why, now that we are at bookworm, is the nftables service not enabled by > default? With a default ruleset that pretty much leaves it all open but is a > starting point. > If we do not want that, then at least the default config should contain a > warning about first e

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

vorubergeh...@tutanota.com wrote: >By the way: > >The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the >following will not show a GRUB command line: > >sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda > >The same thing works for the BIOS boot interface, however (as in my

RE: is nft running? how do I get info?

Hi David and others, I consider not having nftable enabled by default in bookworm a bug, let me explain why... >> It seems the bookworm release comes with NO firewall solution enabled ! >> Iptables is no longer installed by default >> The nft service is NOT enabled by default. > It seems like

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-25): > The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the > following will not show a GRUB command line: > > sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda Oh, I must check if the KVM virtual machine booting on UEFI I have been toying w

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

By the way: The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the following will not show a GRUB command line: sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda The same thing works for the BIOS boot interface, however (as in my original recipe).

thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages

Greetings fine free software people. A number of years ago, the little arrows at the top and bottom of the scrollbar to the right of my "message list" view in thunderbird (I'm currently using debian stable) disappeared. As I have a huge number of emails in my work inbox (not this account), this

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

I apologize for the formatting in my last post, I don't know what happened. And many thanks for your help! I checked my partition table using "sudo parted /dev/sda print" and it didn't show any flags for partition 1 (the "init" partition). Therefore I manually set the flags using "sudo parted /

Gnome: The Videos application quits when clicking on Activities

I've noticed several times, when I am listening to an mp3 using the application 'Videos' that if I click on Activities to put the system into the view showing each task as a miniture window, that the Videos application abruptly quits. How can I find an error message for that? I've switched to usein

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 15:18:21 (+0200), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > > > to use Mutt and s

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Hi all, a bit of research resulted in me finding this (old) page, which indicated there were some environment variables I could use to control memory allocation of AMD's OpenCL implementation: https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/solved-clinfo-reports-error-33-of-quot-global-free-mem

Re: Starting stunnel with systemd.

In-reply-to: References: <6c1ca55212823a1bb3c87df7cd731...@easthope.ca> From: David Wright Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 08:01:34 -0500 Perhaps it would help for you to explain how you're starting it successfully, in order to see whether there's something you do that doesn't translate to r

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

hl wrote: > Thanks! how many users are using mail reader without gui? anyway gui is more > friendly for many users. i suppose more users use gui. gui can show mail > body along subject easily. it's waste of time to repeat subject in mail > body. > > it seems impossible to please everyone. That's

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:36 AM hl wrote: > > > On 4/25/23 15:39, dmacdoug wrote: > > It's not that readers can't see both the message and the subject line at > > the same time, it's more a matter of expectations. > > > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen >

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 03:18:21PM +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > But then the interesting bit happens once you've read that first message. > > When you mark it for deletion, you immediately move to the next message. > > You D

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 09:11:23 (+0200), DdB wrote: > Am 25.04.2023 um 02:18 schrieb David Christensen: > > I have a SOHO network with FreeBSD servers and Debian, Windows, macOS, > > and iOS clients.  The hardware is anywhere from new to 16 years old. > > Where possible, I install a 2.5" SATA 6 Gbps

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:26:32 +0800 hl wrote: > i've read list archive: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/,  i > still don't know who can read mail body but can't read subject at > same time Exactly so: you don't know "who can read mail body but can't read subject at same time". So you should

Re: Request for guidance to output(print, i.e.) mouse movements, key press, perepherals insert, etc., on a terminal

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Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: Hello Greg, > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > > to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, etc. Once I > > hi

Re: Starting stunnel with systemd.

On Mon 24 Apr 2023 at 07:26:35 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Darac Marjal > Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 19:09:16 +0100 > > 1. stunnel hasn't been in Debian since etch (Debian 4.0). > > Thanks for catching that. > > > 2. stunnel4 comes with a service file template > > (https://sour

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla writes: > But this doesn't work either. Same problem here. However I can make > such an EFI installation using official installation media on the same > machine and that does work. That recipe (and the whole post) was hard to read but don't you need some flags for the ESP part

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On 4/25/23 18:30, Dan Ritter wrote: We have users who are blind. We have users who are using low-bandwidth connections. We have users who are using tiny-screened devices. We have users using devices with only text capabilities. We have users who like using mutt and other text MUAs. -dsr- .

Re: /etc/fstab question (problem)?

On Sun 23 Apr 2023 at 01:14:05 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/22/23 21:11, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 22 Apr 2023 at 18:51:26 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > > "Back in the day", people running Linux had computers with limited > > > amounts of storage and memory. I imagine an i

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 08:59:23 (+), Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > Did I discover a bug in the bookwork release? I think we can argue both for > and against but I am calling it a bug. > > It seems the bookworm release comes with NO firewall solution enabled ! > Iptables is no longer installed by d

Re: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?

Peter Ehlert wrote: ... > Now that you have been properly scolded. > ... > Weekend of June 10 if all goes according to current plan... songbird

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

> I can't see anything wrong with the script. Did that installation use> GPT > and a BIOS Boot Partition though?The successful installation (with official > installation media) used aBIOS partition table, but I prefer GPT.> I guess I > have to ask, why not just use UEFI?I also tried that and I c

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

There are a few things I forgot to say: The recipe I posted earlier is executed on a system installed on the external drive /dev/sdb, which I call the installer system. It is also a Debian system, with the recipe's dependencies installed. To reproduce the issue (if you want), I suggest using a

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Valentin Caracalla writes: > Previously, I've successfully installaed Debian using official > installation media on this machine (also using BIOS boot interface), > so I know that it works in principle. I can't see anything wrong with the script. Did that installation use GPT and a BIOS Boot Par

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 02:11:45PM +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > And, if you use 'su' command, please use it right: > su - There are many "right" ways to elevate privileges. See for more options.

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, etc. Once I > highlight a certain line and hit enter, I see the message, and 99% of the > time I read

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Hi Jörg-Volker, Am 25.04.2023 um 11:19 schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz: Hi, which mesa packages do you have installed? None providing OpenCL capabilities at that time, but if you followed this thread, you are aware of this already: # LANG=C dpkg -l '*mesa*' | cut -c 1-72 Desired=Unknown/Install/

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Le 25/04/2023 à 12:33, Arno Lehmann a écrit : Hi Yvan, Am 25.04.2023 um 11:06 schrieb Yvan Masson: Le 24/04/2023 à 23:57, Arno Lehmann a écrit : Hi Timothy, Am 24.04.2023 um 23:38 schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:00 PM Sarunas Burdulis mailto:saru...@math.dartmouth

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

hl wrote: > why not use mail reader with gui, (e.g. Thunderbird)? gui allows you to get > info easily. you don't have to remember lots of things, just a few clicks, > you can get info you need. We have users who are blind. We have users who are using low-bandwidth connections. We have users who

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Good afternoon Is the problem the printer or Sophie? Can DEBIAN itself find a printerdriver? Regards Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 10:04 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Hi Yvan, Am 25.04.2023 um 11:06 schrieb Yvan Masson: Le 24/04/2023 à 23:57, Arno Lehmann a écrit : Hi Timothy, Am 24.04.2023 um 23:38 schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:00 PM Sarunas Burdulis mailto:saru...@math.dartmouth.edu>> wrote:     On 4/24/23 14:02, Arno Lehm

Re: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?

On 4/25/23 15:01, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: It's likely to be sometime in June that Bookworm becomes stable. Release teams are discussing dates at the moment. It'll likely be done in time for Debian's 30th anniversary in August. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater . Thanks! you are alway

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

Bonno Bloksma writes: > Also trying command completion with the nft, or even nf, show no > results. Using just the n for completion gives just the networking > service. It seems others covered your other issues so I'll just comment on this. Maybe your command completion is just bad? I can't com

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On 4/25/23 15:39, dmacdoug wrote: It's not that readers can't see both the message and the subject line at the same time, it's more a matter of expectations. There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, et

RE: is nft running? how do I get info?

Hi All, Did I discover a bug in the bookwork release? I think we can argue both for and against but I am calling it a bug. It seems the bookworm release comes with NO firewall solution enabled ! Iptables is no longer installed by default The nft service is NOT enabled by default. After searchin

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Hi, which mesa packages do you have installed? In Debian testing I see the package `mesa-opencl-icd`. I have no experience with opencl and AMD graphic cards but are very interested how it works in Debian. Regards, Jörg.

RE: is nft running? how do I get info?

Hi Dan, >> I thought I understood it all and as far as I know I have a working config. >> But just trying to get a listing of the running config shows NOTHING. >> linbookwormtest:~# nft list ruleset >> linbookwormtest:~# > > That says that you have no firewall set up. That was my conclusion as w

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:58:56AM + schrieb Bonno Bloksma: Hi Bonno, > Hi Anssi, > > >> There is nothing in the journal about nft > >> linbookwormtest:~#journalctl -t nft -- Journal begins at Mon > >> 2023-03-27 13:07:50 CEST, ends at Mon 2023-04-24 12:18:07 CEST. > >> -- -- No entries -- >

Re: is nft running? how do I get info?

вт, 25 апр. 2023 г. в 13:32, Bonno Bloksma : > > Debian's nftables package includes a systemd service to run nftables. You > > might want to run systemctl status nftables first and then enable and to > > start the service. > Unfortunately nft is not a service. Trying the service command with nft

Re: OpenCL with Radeon GPU

Le 24/04/2023 à 23:57, Arno Lehmann a écrit : Hi Timothy, Am 24.04.2023 um 23:38 schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:00 PM Sarunas Burdulis mailto:saru...@math.dartmouth.edu>> wrote:     On 4/24/23 14:02, Arno Lehmann wrote: ...     Yes, in general OpenCL for current

RE: is nft running? how do I get info?

Hi Anssi, >> There is nothing in the journal about nft >> linbookwormtest:~#journalctl -t nft >> -- Journal begins at Mon 2023-03-27 13:07:50 CEST, ends at Mon >> 2023-04-24 12:18:07 CEST. -- >> -- No entries -- > Debian's nftables package includes a systemd service to run nftables. You > migh

Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

Hello everyone, I'm trying to install Debian on my Asus UX31A using command line utilities like debootstrap and grub-install. However, the installed system is not bootable. The problem is that the internal drive (which I install the system to) doesn't show up in the boot menu (which is what the

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 01:26:32PM +0800, hl wrote: > > ,  i still don't know who can read mail body but can't read subject at same > time > > what do you think if i copy/paste subject to beginning of mail body to > comply with such unwritten rule? > It's not that readers can't see both the mess

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

Am 25.04.2023 um 02:18 schrieb David Christensen: > I have a SOHO network with FreeBSD servers and Debian, Windows, macOS, > and iOS clients.  The hardware is anywhere from new to 16 years old. > Where possible, I install a 2.5" SATA 6 Gbps trayless mobile racks in > the computers and use 2.5" SATA

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:16:54AM +0200, DdB wrote: > Thank you for providing your take on this. > > Am 24.04.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Dan Ritter: > > Upgrade buster to bullseye, reboot, upgrade to bookworm. > > Read the release notes for bullseye. Change /etc/apt/sources.list to suit. Upgrade b

Re: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 05:52:55AM +0800, hl wrote: > i always use stable, Thanks! > It's likely to be sometime in June that Bookworm becomes stable. Release teams are discussing dates at the moment. It'll likely be done in time for Debian's 30th anniversary in August. All the very best, as ever