Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-14 00:03, gene heskett wrote: I'm looking for a mailer that actually works. tbirds sort filters don't, and they think everybody uses only html, so word wrap doesn't work So I'm doing this by hand.. I'd have thought if you've got PCs in different buildings Dovecot, Roundcube, Sei

Re: error using synaptic UPGRADE/INSTALL

2022-06-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 06:46:02PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 12:38:37 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:24:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:58:44AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > >> I suppose I should have shut down som

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:57:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. > > *10 > > I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard All three of them, actually ;-) Cheers -- t

Re: error using synaptic UPGRADE/INSTALL

2022-06-13 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 06:46:02PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 12:38:37 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:24:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:58:44AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: >> I suppose I should have shut down some of proces

Re: Debian 10 --> 11 on Dell R740: network interfaces renamed

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 10:42:07 (+0200), Harald Dunkel wrote: > > If I have to hardwire the interface names to their Mac address as you > suggested, then I don't see a significant difference to the old-style > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules we had till Debian 10, except > that the former

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 13:06:40 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:20:05 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > Now, I really need a terminal for alt-ctl-F3 that does support the > > mouse. > > charles@hawk:~$ apt show gpm [ … ] > Description: General Purpose Mouse interface >

Re: Screen power save in console mode

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 10:14:36 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Jeremy Ardley composed on 2022-06-13 15:49 (UTC+0800): > > > I have a Debain (Armbian) server that does not boot to any form of > > window manager, so what is seen on the screen is just the command console. > > > What I would like  to

Re: error using synaptic UPGRADE/INSTALL

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 12:38:37 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:24:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:58:44AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> I suppose I should have shut down some of processes before running > >> Synaptic. > >That shouldn't be ne

Re: perms

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
On 6/13/22 14:49, mick crane wrote: On 2022-06-13 19:11, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, For CUPS - you can use lpadmin from a terminal as a command line. Open a konsole terminal, su - inside it, then use lpadmin Just looking to see if I could remember how to add a cups printer noticed th

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >> permissions wall. > > SHOW. US. I got tired of fighting with it Greg, so I did install #32 and installed gnome_desktop (that

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/06/2022 18:39, Felix Miata wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI composed on 2022-06-13 16:29 (UTC-0400): And Gene is one of a few users that never help themselves, even when repeatedly told what to do and what not to do. Just wait until your wife of 60 years is gone and you're 89. See how you li

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. *10 I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fan

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Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Felix Miata
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI composed on 2022-06-13 16:29 (UTC-0400): > And Gene is one of a few users that never help themselves, even when > repeatedly told what to do and what not to do. Just wait until your wife of 60 years is gone and you're 89. See how you like having no one there to talk to any m

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/06/2022 15:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: Why the hell do you CONTINUE to make these vague statements with NO demonstration of what the actual problem is? And why do you continue asking for the same things, knowing that they won't be provided? Not that your request in invalid - certainly if

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-13 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:00:35 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 18:08:24 +0800, lou wrote: > > > On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant. > > > > > Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE. > > > > > > Thanks, but i

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, June 13, 2022 11:35:29 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > Let's get some actual numbers in here. From wikipedia: > > IBM PC with proprietary BIOS introduced: 1981 > Linus Torvalds begins writing Linux: 1991 Efforts started toward EFI (predecessor in some sense of UEFI) -- see below: 199

Re: MC settings (was: user perms)

2022-06-13 Thread Felix Miata
Joe composed on 2022-06-13 20:03 (UTC+0100): > I don't know if you know this, but when you close mc the *current* > version of the config file is re-saved. So if you edited the file in > mc, the new version will be overwritten. That's an unfortunate default, not carved in stone. Turn off auto sav

Re: perms

2022-06-13 Thread Joe
On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 19:46:13 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2022-06-13 19:11, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Hi Gene, > > > > For CUPS - you can use lpadmin from a terminal as a command line. > > > > Open a konsole terminal, su - inside it, then use lpadmin > > Just looking to see if I could rem

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Joe
On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:56:12 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > I can't modify screen colors in any terminal or in mc, and mc's > colors are all so alike I can only read a directory list which is in > a different color, if I want to read a file, I have to use nano. > I don't know if you know this, bu

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 6/13/2022 2:33 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a permissions wall. SHOW. US. No need to shout in all caps. Why the hell no need for language You're a goddamned 20+ year Li

Re: perms

2022-06-13 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-13 19:11, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, For CUPS - you can use lpadmin from a terminal as a command line. Open a konsole terminal, su - inside it, then use lpadmin Just looking to see if I could remember how to add a cups printer noticed that I am in lpadmin group in /etc/grou

Re: user perms

2022-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a permissions > wall. SHOW. US. Why the hell do you CONTINUE to make these vague statements with NO demonstration of what the actual problem is? It would take you FIVE SECO

Re: perms

2022-06-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hi Gene, For CUPS - you can use lpadmin from a terminal as a command line. Open a konsole terminal, su - inside it, then use lpadmin For the other issues: if you really want to do another install, go ahead - this time, maybe try UEFI ? All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater

user perms

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a permissions wall. I can't modify screen colors in any terminal or in mc, and mc's colors are all so alike I can only read a directory list which is in a different color, if I want to read a file, I have to use nano.

Re: apt key handling needs to be properly documented--what to do?

2022-06-13 Thread Ross Boylan
Yes: that's right on point. I do have some things I'd still like to see. Maybe we should continue on #1002820 to avoid clutter? But that's closed, and so maybe not a great choice. Wishlist: 1. update stable so the information is more widely available. 2. Since apt-key is going away and already

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 6/13/2022 1:57 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: So again your choices in practice are assembly, C, a subset of C++ (essentially C + classes, but no standard library and practically no templates due to stack limitation), maybe rust or some language you design yourself. Here's a blog post about k

Re: memtest86+ on 12th gen intel

2022-06-13 Thread piorunz
On 13/06/2022 17:22, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 6/13/2022 11:47 AM, Ram Ramesh wrote: I had memtest86+ working just fine on a legacy bullseye install. However, due to age of the CPU, I recently upgraded to 12th gen i3-12100. As part of the upgrade, I also changed over to UEFI boot. Looks like

Re: memtest86+ on 12th gen intel

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 6/13/2022 12:27 PM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: Here's a post on the issues with memtest86+ (the free software version) and UEFI: https://askubuntu.com/questions/917961/can-i-boot-memtest86-if-im-using-uefi Sorry for the spam, looks like they just added UEFI support last week: https://www.me

Re: memtest86+ on 12th gen intel

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 6/13/2022 12:22 PM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm Sorry I didn't realize that version of memtest isn't free software. Here's a post on the issues with memtest86+ (the free software version) and UEFI: https://askubuntu.com/questions/917961/can-i-boot-memtes

Re: memtest86+ on 12th gen intel

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 6/13/2022 11:47 AM, Ram Ramesh wrote: I had memtest86+ working just fine on a legacy bullseye install. However, due to age of the CPU, I recently upgraded to 12th gen i3-12100. As part of the upgrade, I also changed over to UEFI boot. Looks like current Memtest works only with UEFI boot (w

memtest86+ on 12th gen intel

2022-06-13 Thread Ram Ramesh
I had memtest86+ working just fine on a legacy bullseye install. However, due to age of the CPU, I recently upgraded to 12th gen i3-12100. As part of the upgrade, I also changed over to UEFI boot. In addition I had to upgrade kernel to 5.16 using backports to get video working right. Now memte

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: > > new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux > > was first written... > If that is what they taught you in history, Michael, sue the the school.   *sigh* Let's ge

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when li

Re: Screen power save in console mode

2022-06-13 Thread Felix Miata
Jeremy Ardley composed on 2022-06-13 15:49 (UTC+0800): > I have a Debain (Armbian) server that does not boot to any form of > window manager, so what is seen on the screen is just the command console. > What I would like  to do is have the console screen go into screen power > save mode after s

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux was first written... So having tw

Re: error using synaptic UPGRADE/INSTALL

2022-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:24:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello, >On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:58:44AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: >> I suppose I should have shut down some of processes before running >> Synaptic. >That shouldn't be necessary. Indeed. It seems more likely that the problems a

Re: error using synaptic UPGRADE/INSTALL

2022-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:58:44AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > That occurred to me when I first typed "su", but then I forgot to go > back and try. Now I can sleep tonight without worrying about it. If you want more details (and more options): https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes >

Re: Screen power save in console mode

2022-06-13 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-06-13 03:49, Jeremy Ardley wrote: I have a Debain (Armbian) server that does not boot to any form of window manager, so what is seen on the screen is just the command console. What I would like  to do is have the console screen go into screen power save mode after some period and recover

Screen power save in console mode

2022-06-13 Thread Jeremy Ardley
I have a Debain (Armbian) server that does not boot to any form of window manager, so what is seen on the screen is just the command console. What I would like  to do is have the console screen go into screen power save mode after some period and recover when keyboard or mouse are used. Is th