Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread David
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 00:41, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just the messenger here, > > assuming that most debian-user subscribers are probably not following > > debian-devel. > > In my opinion the most important message is this: > >> >

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 18:02:48 +, Gareth Evans wrote: > It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root > password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct > (root) password at least once. I love the way you have completely misinterpr

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I smile at this discussion, having gone through this same thought-cycle so many times. I claim this is motivation for the separation of a graphical client workstation, simpler and separate from the server, having ONLY a single-user identity at a time. In other words, re-implementation of the XWindo

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 +0100, john doe wrote: > On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote: > > > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: > > > > > I finally got around to installing

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Gareth Evans
Hi Greg, Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere or other. Jerry said: > When I booted the system > and try to do "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade" using "sudo" it would > not le

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:39:29PM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this > situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere > or other. > > Jerry said: > > > When I booted the system > >

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Gareth Evans
[re-sending to list as I initially replied from a non-subscribed address] Hi Greg, Thanks. Apologies if I'm missing something, but I don't understand how this situation could have arisen other than because of password errors somewhere or other. Jerry said: > When I booted the system > and tr

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread john doe
On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote: On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote: On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus removing the i386version I had originally ins

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:02:48PM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root > password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct > (root) password at least once. > > How else could changes to /etc/sudoers

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Gareth Evans
It seems to me that Jerry may have mistakenly typed a user rather than root password at the su (not sudo) prompt at least once, but also used the correct (root) password at least once. How else could changes to /etc/sudoers (which I imagine is what is meant by "the sudouse(r) file") have been

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote: > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: > > > I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus > > > removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install we

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 02:40:47PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > > support you should probably look into contributing. > > What does it mean exactly? Contribute how and where? I'd ask in debian-dev

Re: Debian 10 Buster - difficulty setting up mariaDB 10.3.27 users for use with Debian mediawiki 1.31 package

2020-12-15 Thread Keith Christian
Deloptes, Joe, SUCCESS. Thanks for all the help. Keith

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386 > support you should probably look into contributing. And how does one do that? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlesc

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just the messenger here, > assuming that most debian-user subscribers are probably not following > debian-devel. > this is true - thank you I became aware of the i386 issue on the geode dev news list (AFAIR) some time ago (may b

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 dec 20, 11:47:49, deloptes wrote: > > Hi Andrei, > thank you for posting on this very important topic. > > I want to share my experience and view hoping that you draw some useful > conclusions and we can keep i386 in some way available. Sorry, should have been more explicit: I'm just t

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 dec 20, 11:36:50, john doe wrote: > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first user only if > > you leave the root password blank. This is explained during the install. > > That doesn't look to be the case anymore, I ju

Re: FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread deloptes
Hi Andrei, thank you for posting on this very important topic. I want to share my experience and view hoping that you draw some useful conclusions and we can keep i386 in some way available. Andrei POPESCU wrote: [snip] > > My intuition is also that i386, although becoming less popular, was

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread john doe
On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted t

Re: Debian 10 64bit

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: > I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus > removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went > well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted the system > and try to do "apt-get update a

FW: Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Relevant for those who need i386 support. Kind regards, Andrei - Forwarded message from Russ Allbery - Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:49 -0800 From: Russ Allbery To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, debian-rele...@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Release status of