Re: where to find location info of photo?

2020-06-20 Thread mick crane
On 2020-06-21 07:38, Long Wind wrote: actually cell phone shows my address, not GPS I don't know anything about GPS https://exiftool.org/geotag.html seems to be saying that GPS is in a track log and not the image. mick isn't  there some gui tool for such purpose?program in Graphics section

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Brad Rogers wrote: > Hello deloptes, > >>I know I know - but no one cares. I > > So very true.  How's the slave trade going? When you look at Saudi Arabia and alike (Israel is not better)- it works just fine. Also in the west - in example all the companies that use child labor. So you (I dare t

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > statements which are neither true nor false. > > Kurt Goedel. Incompleteness theorem. Celejar wrote: > No - Gödel proved that any such (formal) system will contain statements > such that neither they nor their negations are *provable within the > system*. These statements are ac

Re: where to find location info of photo?

2020-06-20 Thread mick crane
On 2020-06-21 06:47, Long Wind wrote: Thank mick!i've just installed exiftoolit shows a lot of meta info of photo filebut i can't find location info It's a long time since I used it, can't remember if this worked or not #!/bin/bash GPS=`identify -format "%[EXIF:GPSLatitude]" tiger.jpg` echo $GP

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 14:05:22, Ihor Antonov wrote: > On Saturday, 20 June 2020 05:32:41 PDT John Hasler wrote: > > Ihor writes: > > > I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is there > > > some sort of CLI interface to packages.debian org? > > > > Do you specifically require a co

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:53:50, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 02:07:59PM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote: > > On Saturday, 20 June 2020 08:05:04 PDT Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > Another possibility may be one of the surfraw packages once configured > > > correctly. Lots of other search p

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 22:49:45 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >I know I know - but no one cares. I So very true. How's the slave trade going? -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I'm in need of your help now

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 22:50:44, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Others have already addressed your logic better than I could. > > > > Instead I'd like to point out that "normal" is basically just some state > > agreed on by a specific majority. > > > > Or maybe you think that everyone

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 21:57:31, Weaver wrote: > On 21-06-2020 13:41, Celejar wrote: > > > > I respect your position (and I'm not sure yet where I stand), but how > > far does this go? Should we rename the "kill" command, since it can > > remind people of how badly their friends and relatives were trea

Re: where to find location info of photo?

2020-06-20 Thread mick crane
On 2020-06-21 03:40, Long Wind wrote: i've taken photo with cell phone, cell phone can show location info of photo but  i can't use gimp to find location info of photo exiftool -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Weaver
On 21-06-2020 13:41, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 18:41:11 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Friday 19 June 2020 15:37:51 Brian wrote: >> > >> > > On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 15:14:26 -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> > > > What do you think? >> > > >> > > If we knew what

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 18:41:11 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2020 15:37:51 Brian wrote: > > > > > On Fri 19 Jun 2020 at 15:14:26 -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > If we knew what you were talking about it would help. Link? > >

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:47:36 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > deloptes wrote: > > by logic and ontology there is either P or not P that can be true > > Any system of thought, which follows the principles of classical logic > and which contains the usual math of natural numbers, contains

where to find location info of photo?

2020-06-20 Thread Long Wind
i've taken photo with cell phone, cell phone can show location info of photo but  i can't use gimp to find location info of photo

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:57:38 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote: > > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 20 Jun

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
No, what I did with surfraw got done by reading the man pages. The other tool, I've never heard of before either. On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Ihor Antonov wrote: > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 17:07:59 > From: Ihor Antonov > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.or

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 20:37:09 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > > >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>> Greetings all; > > >>> I am ru

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:13:08 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker > >>> kicks in,

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 20:03:06 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 18:30:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the scr

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the scre

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 18:30:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks > > > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/20/20 13:17, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:37:31, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote: I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it appears th

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread Klaus Singvogel
davidson wrote: > -o -name "*.[Tt][Xx][Tt]" or use: -iname "*.txt" Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 02:07:59PM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote: > On Saturday, 20 June 2020 08:05:04 PDT Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Another possibility may be one of the surfraw packages once configured > > correctly. Lots of other search possibilities in surfraw too. Once > > installed and configure

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:22:56 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks > > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I > > shut the screen blanker down for the jobs

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 18:10:40 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Greetings all; > >> I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks > >> in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect.

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, davidson wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a devic

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Brian wrote: On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Bu

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, davidson wrote: Gah. $ find . -type f \ \( -name "*.[Hh][Tt][Mm][Ll]" -o -name "[Tt][Xx][Tt]" \) \ -o -name "*.[Tt][Xx][Tt]" -- @almightygenie 8 Jun 2020 | @Windex Thanks, Windex. That's a relief. Your drink is even more refreshing now that I know that it deplores

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wrote: >> > Kurt Goedel. Incompleteness theorem. > > deloptes wrote: >> If you've been studying logic you would know better, > Exactly you wrote Goedel - the science of logic did not end up with Goedel ... at least not for me ;-) But Thomas - I do not want to argue her

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 15:13:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 June 2020 12:02:51 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker > > > kicks in, so I used xset to shut off d

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Kurt Goedel. Incompleteness theorem. deloptes wrote: > If you've been studying logic you would know better, Ahum. Which of the preconditions of the theorem are not fulfilled by the kind of logic you refer to ? - Can some of its true statements not be written down as finite seque

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 08:05:04 PDT Jude DaShiell wrote: > Another possibility may be one of the surfraw packages once configured > correctly. Lots of other search possibilities in surfraw too. Once > installed and configured read up on the -elvi in surfraw to find what > search possibilities

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 05:32:41 PDT John Hasler wrote: > Ihor writes: > > I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is there > > some sort of CLI interface to packages.debian org? > > Do you specifically require a command line interface, or just a text > one? They are not th

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:20:59 PDT to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:05:41AM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > Hi, > > > > 20 juin 2020 à 10:29 de ihor@antonovs.family: > > > I often use https://packages.debian.org to look up package information. > > > I often search for bina

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread davidson
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Albretch Mueller wrote: _X=".\(html\|txt\)" _SDIR="$(pwd)" _AR_TERMS=( Kant "Gilbert Ryle" Hegel ) for iZ in ${!_AR_TERMS[@]}; do find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -exec grep -il "${_AR_TERMS[$iZ]}" {} \; done # iZ: terms search/grep'ped inside text files; echo

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Others have already addressed your logic better than I could. > > Instead I'd like to point out that "normal" is basically just some state > agreed on by a specific majority. > > Or maybe you think that everyone should be running Windows and Linux > doesn't make any sense

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Brad Rogers wrote: > {leaving aside that language isn't maths, binary logic doesn't apply to > people, and any other canard you care to take a swing at} > > That's why the term used most often now is LGBTQ+, which includes more > sexualities.  The goalposts are still moving, however. > > Above i

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
The Wanderer wrote: > * If you consider white to be normal, then all the rest (e.g., black) is > considered to be not normal. > > * If you consider male to be normal, then all the rest (e.g., female) is > considered to be not normal. > > * If you consider right-handed to be normal, then all the

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Any system of thought, which follows the principles of classical logic > and which contains the usual math of natural numbers, contains statements > which are neither true nor false. > Kurt Goedel. Incompleteness theorem. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Formally_Undecida

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Wait a sec. This is getting really weird now. Logic doesn't care about > your views. > Neither it cares about yours tomas. And regarding filtering out - I really can't tell - so why writing it down? I read yours with pleasure as far as they are of technical nature

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-06-20 03:20, Albretch Mueller wrote: _X=".\(html\|txt\)" _SDIR="$(pwd)" _AR_TERMS=( Kant "Gilbert Ryle" Hegel ) for iZ in ${!_AR_TERMS[@]}; do find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -exec grep -il "${_AR_TERMS[$iZ]}" {} \; done # iZ: terms search/grep'ped inside text files; echo "

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Weaver
On another note, I hear from now on white bread is to be referred to as `privilege loaf'. -- `Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful'. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion. Registered Linux User: 554515

Re: What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 14:37:34, Tom Browder wrote: > > I have no love for iptables and very little experience with it. So it seems > I should remove the iptables package and install the nftables one. And I'll > look into firewalld which I tried briefly some years ago. In case you are considering usin

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 19:33:16, deloptes wrote: > > I asked them how would > they approach the fact that logically only one thing can be considered > correct/normal (by logic and ontology there is either P or not P that can > be true). Others have already addressed your logic better than I could. I

Re: What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:44 Ben Lavender wrote: > Personally I'd learn nf_tables because that's the way forward and if you > stick to it's CLI then the better. > Thanks, Ben. -Tom

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Francisco Mariano Neto
Wow, lots of responses here! Going back to a more productive approach, let me suggest another pair: yes-list and no-list. It's easy to understand, non-dubious, and easily translated. []'s Francisco Em sáb, 20 de jun de 2020 15:54, The Wanderer escreveu: > On 2020-06-20 at 13:33, deloptes wrote

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 19:33:16 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >be true). If you consider LGBT to be normal, then all the rest is >considered as not normal or vv. {leaving aside that language isn't maths, binary logic doesn't apply to people, and any other canard you care to take a swing at

Re: What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:48 wrote: > Hi, > ... > Actually, as explained on https://wiki.debian.org/nftables, Buster uses > an "iptables-nft layer (i.e, using iptables syntax with the nf_tables > kernel subsystem). This also affects ip6tables, arptables and ebtables." ... Oops, my bad. ...

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 18:37:31, Brian wrote: > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote: > > > > > > I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it > > > appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 12:02:51 Brian wrote: > On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks > > in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I > > shut the screen blanker dow

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Weaver
On 20-06-2020 23:57, Dan Ritter wrote: > Weaver wrote: >> On 20-06-2020 12:57, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > Weaver wrote: >> >> >> >> I think it's possible to get too politically correct. >> > >> > Try this phrase: >> > >> > "I think it's possible to get too polite." >> >> No, there's no value in twisti

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-06-20 at 13:33, deloptes wrote: > (by logic and ontology there is either P or not P that can be true). > If you consider LGBT to be normal, then all the rest is considered as > not normal or vv. By this same reasoning: * If you consider white to be normal, then all the rest (e.g., black)

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > by logic and ontology there is either P or not P that can be true Any system of thought, which follows the principles of classical logic and which contains the usual math of natural numbers, contains statements which are neither true nor false. Kurt Goedel. Incompleteness th

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 07:33:16PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > [...] (by logic and ontology there is either P or not P that can > be true). If you consider LGBT to be normal, then all the rest is > considered as not normal or vv. Wait a sec. This is getting really weird now. Logic doesn't care about

Re: What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread Ben Lavender
Personally I'd learn nf_tables because that's the way forward and if you stick to it's CLI then the better. I found this on github: https://github.com/larsbs/nftablui but i havn't used it myself so maybe it could be of use to you? Regards Ben Lavender On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, 15:25 Tom Browder, wr

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 17:53:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote: > > > > I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it > > appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are made (line 24 from > > the end) is > > > > apt-get -

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
elvis wrote: > Since the terms have nothing to do with race, then no. Are you proposing > to rename everything with the word black in it? Sometimes a cigar is > just a cigar. > > >> "allowlist" and "rejectlist" >> instead of (for example on disk drives) "master" and "slave" I like to >> propose

Re: which package to file a bug against?

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 08:54:52, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings d-u, > > I have a new-ish laptop and a pair of the function keys (screen > brighter/dimmer) are mapped to the wrong function (mic mute/unmute). Are you using the correct keyboard layout? You could try 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-confi

Re: bug report

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[it's likely you are not subscribed, sorry for the Cc: in case you are] On Sb, 20 iun 20, 07:58:33, gilleswicki wrote: > Hello, I found a bug on my system and tried to report it using the > reportbug software. But as I don't know which packet is the cause of > the bug, following the procedure of

Re: How to pick a Subject line for a mailing list [was: have you seen this inside....]

2020-06-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-06-20 at 12:28, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Using something that looks like an invented name is also quite often > a sign of a spammer. > > (though I do admit spammers and scammers also use real looking names, > and do understand the wish to keep ones real name private) Years ago, I ran acr

Re: How to pick a Subject line for a mailing list [was: have you seen this inside....]

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 iun 20, 11:07:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > And now, dear OP (Seeds Notoneofmy), try to walk a couple of > meters/yards in some random list reader's shoes: this list has > (very roughly) 1000 mails/month [1]. That means about 30 mails/day. > > Someone picking mails will see one mail/l

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 17:44:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: > https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashProgramming/04?action=diff&rev2=10&rev1=9 > > I went with "blocklist" because it's so close to the original term that > it should be easily understood. Then, to match that, I chose "passlist" > for the other one.

Re: dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 11:26:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, > so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the > screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the >

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread John Hasler
elvis writes: > If you are not a native English speaker then how do you know what > allow and reject mean? By knowing the English language and therefor having the words "allow", "reject", and "list" in his vocabulary. "Blacklist" and "whitelist" are also English words but not part of basic Englis

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Edwin Land once said: "/Politeness is the slow poison of collaboration." /I've generally found that to be quite true.  (Then again, I'm a New York Jew - brusqueness and argumentativeness are my bywords.) Re. whitelist/blacklist:  IMO, on the one hand the really direct tie between good/bad and

Re: What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 20 juin 2020 à 16:24 de tom.brow...@gmail.com: > I see it's recommended that Buster users use nftables, but the default > installation still uses iptables! > True & false. Actually, as explained on https://wiki.debian.org/nftables, Buster uses an "iptables-nft layer (i.e, using iptables synt

dpms control?

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am running an app that gets messed up if the screen blanker kicks in, so I used xset to shut off dpms. Has no effect. So how do I shut the screen blanker down for the jobs duration? Building a device to rock the mouse back and forth at 1 minute intervals seems like a huge waste

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 22:16:15, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: > > # apt install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver > > DKMS will build the nvidia module for your system, via the > nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms > package. > > After, create an Xorg ser

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 09:30:30, David Wright wrote: > > One other benefit: the knowledge and skills you gain in this process > will be far more transferable than a deeper understanding of the d-i. > After all, I haven't gained the impression that you're in technical > charge of rolling out, say, 5000

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
Another possibility may be one of the surfraw packages once configured correctly. Lots of other search possibilities in surfraw too. Once installed and configured read up on the -elvi in surfraw to find what search possibilities you have. --

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> I think you deal with symptoms and not with the causes. >> Obama was 8y in power - what he did? Right - nothing! > > I guess opinions on that will vary. I don't know whether this is a > language problem, but I feel you tend to state your opinions as if > they were facts

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 15:12:27, Tom Dial wrote: > > I notice that tasksel (= /usr/bin/tasksel) is a Perl program in which it > appears the "cmd" to be executed once selections are made (line 24 from > the end) is > > apt-get -q -y -o APT::Install-Recommends=true -o \ > APT::Get::AutomaticRemove=true

Re: which package to file a bug against?

2020-06-20 Thread Marko Randjelovic
Hi Matt Zagrabelny, On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 08:54:52 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings d-u, > > I have a new-ish laptop and a pair of the function keys (screen > brighter/dimmer) are mapped to the wrong function (mic mute/unmute). > > Where should I look to file the bug? Use reportbug tool

Re: KDE run Dolphin as root?

2020-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 iun 20, 09:58:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 05:54:38AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Mi, 17 iun 20, 10:55:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > Making things user friendly (something we *gotta* do) means sometimes > > > taking decisions for the user. Where

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Dan Ritter wrote: > I have yet to see a use of the term "political correctness" in > modern speech -- say, since 1990 -- that did not mean "people > are being polite and I don't want them to be polite". > > I'm open to correction if you have real-world examples. It is all about dictatorship - wh

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 20 Jun 2020 at 12:20:41 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > _X=".\(html\|txt\)" > _SDIR="$(pwd)" > > _AR_TERMS=( > Kant > "Gilbert Ryle" > Hegel > ) > > for iZ in ${!_AR_TERMS[@]}; do > find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -exec grep -il > "${_AR_TERMS[$iZ]}" {} \; > done # iZ: terms

What is the best practice for a firewall for Debian Buster: iptables or nftables?

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Browder
I see it's recommended that Buster users use nftables, but the default installation still uses iptables! I need to change ports on my new remote server to allow http and https traffic, but should I keep using iptables? Or should I remove iptables and install nftables first? If I keep iptables, sh

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread elvis
On 20/6/20 6:28 am, Marco Möller wrote: On 19.06.20 21:14, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On the danger of starting a flame war ... thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian instead of "whitelist" and "blacklist" I would like to propose the terms: "allowlist" and "rejectlist" instead

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread elvis
On 20/6/20 5:14 am, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On the danger of starting a flame war ... thinking about the article by Gunnar Wolf on Planet Debian instead of "whitelist" and "blacklist" I would like to propose the terms: Since the terms have nothing to do with race, then no. Are you proposing t

which package to file a bug against?

2020-06-20 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Greetings d-u, I have a new-ish laptop and a pair of the function keys (screen brighter/dimmer) are mapped to the wrong function (mic mute/unmute). Where should I look to file the bug? I'm aware it is ACPI related, but I do not have any packages installed that have "acpi" in the package name. T

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Weaver wrote: > On 20-06-2020 12:57, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Weaver wrote: > >> > >> I think it's possible to get too politically correct. > > > > Try this phrase: > > > > "I think it's possible to get too polite." > > No, there's no value in twisting words. > The wrong connotation gets promoted

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 08:07:31 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Joe wrote: > > What *ought* to be done is make the skin colour descriptions more > > representative of reality. > > Correct observation. But i expect that racists would just replace the > discrimination of "black" people by discrimi

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread John Hasler
Ihor writes: > I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is there > some sort of CLI interface to packages.debian org? Do you specifically require a command line interface, or just a text one? They are not the same thing. If the latter use a text browser such as Lynx. If the

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joe wrote: > What *ought* to be done is make the skin colour descriptions more > representative of reality. Correct observation. But i expect that racists would just replace the discrimination of "black" people by discrimination of those who are "darker than RAL 1015". -

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:20:15PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > I really like "redlist" and "greenlist". Traffic lights abound in every > > country and are most probably well understood everywhere. > > Have a nice day > > Eike > > I think you deal with symptoms and not with

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread deloptes
Eike Lantzsch wrote: > I really like "redlist" and "greenlist". Traffic lights abound in every > country and are most probably well understood everywhere. > Have a nice day > Eike I think you deal with symptoms and not with the causes. Obama was 8y in power - what he did? Right - nothing! You al

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:29:47AM -0700, Ihor Antonov wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I often use https://packages.debian.org to look up package information. > I often search for binary and source packages, across various releases > > I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is

Re: one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:20:41PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > _X=".\(html\|txt\)" > _SDIR="$(pwd)" > > _AR_TERMS=( > Kant > "Gilbert Ryle" > Hegel > ) > > for iZ in ${!_AR_TERMS[@]}; do > find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -exec grep -il > "${_AR_TERMS[$iZ]}" {} \; > done # iZ: term

one liner, how do you know which match happened ...

2020-06-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
_X=".\(html\|txt\)" _SDIR="$(pwd)" _AR_TERMS=( Kant "Gilbert Ryle" Hegel ) for iZ in ${!_AR_TERMS[@]}; do find "${_SDIR}" -type f -iregex .*"${_X}" -exec grep -il "${_AR_TERMS[$iZ]}" {} \; done # iZ: terms search/grep'ped inside text files; echo "~"; # this would be much faster find "${_SDIR

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Joe
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 18:51:27 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: > For humans, white is also full-spectrum visible light refraction, and > black, full-spectrum visible light absorption - or absence of light. > So, not always black-and-white (as in typography, let's say) has a > necessary sociopolitical co

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Andrea Borgia
Il 19/06/20 23:39, Default User ha scritto: I think that is absolutely ridiculous. Amen.

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:05:41AM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi, > > 20 juin 2020 à 10:29 de ihor@antonovs.family: > > > I often use https://packages.debian.org to look up package information. > > I often search for binary and source packages, across various releases > > > > I wish there was

How to pick a Subject line for a mailing list [was: have you seen this inside....]

2020-06-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 03:53:08PM +1000, David wrote: [...] > Because your chosen Subject Header just looks like > annoying click-bait, and we don't want that here. This is actually an important point, so let me offer another perspective, to complement yours. Here's the original subject again:

Re: CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 20 juin 2020 à 10:29 de ihor@antonovs.family: > I often use https://packages.debian.org to look up package information. > I often search for binary and source packages, across various releases > > I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is there some > sort of CLI interf

CLI interface to packages.debian.org

2020-06-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
Hello everyone, I often use https://packages.debian.org to look up package information. I often search for binary and source packages, across various releases I wish there was a way to do it without using a web browser. Is there some sort of CLI interface to packages.debian org? Or maybe I need

bug report

2020-06-20 Thread gilleswicki
Hello, I found a bug on my system and tried to report it using the reportbug software. But as I don't know which packet is the cause of the bug, following the procedure of the reportbug software, I write here to ask what I should do. My bug is that when I try to change the brightness of the scree

Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-20 Thread Weaver
On 20-06-2020 12:57, Dan Ritter wrote: > Weaver wrote: >> >> I think it's possible to get too politically correct. > > Try this phrase: > > "I think it's possible to get too polite." No, there's no value in twisting words. The wrong connotation gets promoted. > I suppose that's true -- if yo