Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > As sent.. User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 KMail 1.9.10 KNode 0.10.9 all from trinity. I use Kontact 1.2.9 and indeed the second post by Wayne Sallee was in HTML, but I click view HTML and it is nicely readable. Anyway - wanted to double check what exactly Gene was using as news

Swaks usage.

2020-01-24 Thread peter
To my understanding the email host in this test is run by hostgator.com. The service is purchased from a reseller; the upstream provider isn't evident. TLS starts OK. Correct? There is no problem for the Web interface to mail; userid and password are correct. Can the problem be anything othe

Swaks usage.

2020-01-24 Thread Peter Easthope
To my understanding the email host in this test is run by hostgator.com. The service is purchased from a reseller and hostgator doesn't make itself evident. TLS starts OK. Correct? There is no problem for the Web interface to mail; userid and password are correct. Can the problem be anything ot

Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-24 Thread Tom Browder
I have a new laptop running Buster (with the MATE desktop) and noticed my Emacs highlighted text was not showing any differently than non-highlighted text. After some conversation on the #emacs IRC channel, it was suggested I run this in a terminal window and restart Emacs: $ xrdb /dev/null Lo

Re: kicad, missing dependency?

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 04:31:25PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 24 January 2020 13:03:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > It seems you're looking for the package libatk-adaptor /or/ > > libatk-bridgeXXX where XXX is the appropriate version for your distro. > > > > Cheers > > -- tomás >

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I hate to return to the original subject but.. ;-) Long ago and far away, your best sources of info on the real, effective, and plain-old UIDs was the man pages for setXuid (2). They describe the differing meanings and outcomes.

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Pietsch
On 2020-01-22 13:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. I need to:  1. Simultaneously display i

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 January 2020 15:56:52 Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:50:41 -, Curt wrote: > > On 2020-01-24, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:36:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In > > >> >

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 January 2020 13:13:02 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 12:36:13 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2020-01-24 at 12:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote:

Re: kicad, missing dependency?

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 January 2020 13:03:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I've a mind to see if I could build an effective fpga buffer to make > > them compatible with 5 volt logic. eagle after 7.0 has self > > destructed

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 January 2020 12:36:13 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-01-24 at 12:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > Thanks for the id

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:50:41 -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-01-24, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:36:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > > > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > >> > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In fact I tend > >> > to just skip over messages that have

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-24, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:36:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In fact I tend >> > to just skip over messages that have no text content. >> >> I was thinking you are using knode-trinit

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 20:36:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In fact I tend > > to just skip over messages that have no text content. > > I was thinking you are using knode-trinity Why? Did it just pop into your mind

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In fact I tend > to just skip over messages that have no text content. I was thinking you are using knode-trinity

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread mick crane
On 2020-01-24 17:06, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: [...] Thanks for the ideas. You're very welcome. One small request -- could you teach your mailer to not send HTML? I was hard-pressed to make heads or tails of your response.

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 07:06:28PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > FWIW, his messages display on my end as plain text; I have my client set > > up to do plain-text display only, and if a HTML-only message shows up it > > actually tends to display as *blank* [...] > > Funny. My mutt

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-24 at 13:13, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 12:36:13 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: >> FWIW, his messages display on my end as plain text; I have my client set >> up to do plain-text display only, and if a HTML-only message shows up it >> actually tends to display as *blank*

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 12:36:13 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-01-24 at 12:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > Thanks f

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:36:13PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-01-24 at 12:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > >> You're very welcome. One small request -- could you teach your > >> mailer to not send HTML? I was hard-pressed

Re: kicad, missing dependency?

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:26:25PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I've a mind to see if I could build an effective fpga buffer to make them > compatible with 5 volt logic. eagle after 7.0 has self destructed or I'd > use it since it has an interface to pcb2gcode builtin. So I in

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I'll second that, its ugly stuff to try and read as text. In fact I > tend to just skip over messages that have no text content. With Gnus I rarely notice that a message is in HTML: it handles it automatically. The only time it becomes a problem is when the HTML is buggy. -- John

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-24 at 12:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: >> >> > >> > >> >> [...] >> >> > Thanks for the ideas. >> >> You're very welcome. One small request -- could you teac

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 07:16:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: > > [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've > > never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... > ^^^ > > IOW if you've never used program XYZ

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 24 January 2020 12:06:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > Thanks for the ideas. > > You're very welcome. One small request -- could you teach your > mailer to not send HTML? I was hard-pressed to make

kicad, missing dependency?

2020-01-24 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I've a mind to see if I could build an effective fpga buffer to make them compatible with 5 volt logic. eagle after 7.0 has self destructed or I'd use it since it has an interface to pcb2gcode builtin. So I installed kicad and its docs. This on a stretch system fully uptodate. R

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:23:03AM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: > > [...] > Thanks for the ideas. You're very welcome. One small request -- could you teach your mailer to not send HTML? I was hard-pressed to make heads or tails of your response. Pretty please? Cheers & thanks -- tomás

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 09:53:58AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > Emacs, which I gather you think is not a GUI application?) [...] Ah, it's *not*? Twenty-five years using that thing and I still didn't know. Bummer ;-P Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 08:53 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the use

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > I'm pretty sure this time it *really* doesn't do what you asked; but > OTOH, there's a good chance it might be useful for what you're doing. hexl-mode would do what he wants but there's no reason to learn Emacs just for that (there lots of other good reasons, though). -- John Has

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Wayne Sallee
 Original Message  *Subject: *  Re: identity confusion *From: * Tomas *To: * Debian-user *CC: * *Date: *  2020-1-24  03:44 AM On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 06:11:37PM -0500, Wayne Sallee wr

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). > *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the use of Emacs, which I gather you think is not a

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread deloptes
Wayne Sallee wrote: > This is interesting. I'm not sure what to think about this. > > on terminal, as user1 > su - > # Enter root password. so now you are root > su - user2 > # No password is needed. so now you are user2 > mysql > Access denied for user 'user1'@'localhost' (using password: NO

Re: Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 07:47 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard writes: I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. ... As I've said elsewhere -- "If retirement not for learning - what use is it?" and thanks.

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:48:51AM -0800, didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: > > Does the --login option provide the same result? > EXcerpt from the su man page: > "For backward compatibility, su defaults to not change the current di‐ >rectory and to only set the environment variables

Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Richard writes: > I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does > very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. With a command line program you enter the program name, some options and some arguments at the shell prompt and hit enter. The program runs, sends its out

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-24 at 08:02, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/23/2020 09:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 >>> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at edi

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... ^^^ IOW if you've never used program XYZ it therefore is of no use. See also: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 09:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pre

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 03:42 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors. As

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread didier . gaumet
Does the --login option provide the same result? EXcerpt from the su man page: "For backward compatibility, su defaults to not change the current di‐ rectory and to only set the environment variables HOME and SHELL (plus USER and LOGNAME if the target user is not root). It

Re: iPXE boot di-netboot-assistant?

2020-01-24 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 23/01/2020 à 10:38, Yvan Masson a écrit : Le 22/01/2020 à 20:09, Yvan Masson a écrit : Hi, I need to deploy many Debian workstations, so I want to boot those with PXE. I can not configure the DHCP server, so I would like to use iPXE scripting capabilities. I have configured di-netboot-as

Re: identity confusion

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 06:11:37PM -0500, Wayne Sallee wrote: > This is interesting. I'm not sure what to think about this. > > on terminal, as user1 > su - > # Enter root password. > su - user2 > # No password is needed. > mysql > Access denied for user 'user1'@'localhost' (using password: NO) A