Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Default User
Okay, I give up. I have literally spent almost all day trying to solve this. I tried and tried, everything I could think of. But to no avail. So I quit. I will just have to either ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't exist, or just purge the minissdpd package completely, and hope nothing re

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 21:58, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 19:50, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: In current versions of Debian, /etc/mtab should be a symlink

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/03/2019 à 21:58, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 19:50, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: In current versions of Debian, /etc/mtab should be a symlink to /proc/mounts.    on my laptop, mtab is

systemd mdadm spamming my syslog

2019-03-10 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Since a recent update, my /var/log/syslog is getting spammed with huge numbers of messages of the form Mar 10 14:02:25 snowball systemd-udevd[18681]: Process '/sbin/mdadm --incremental --export /dev/sda3 --offroot /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z501MTQ3-part3 /dev/disk/by-partuuid/ad6f3

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 19:50, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: What kind of system are you using ?   Debian Stretch In current versions of Debian, /etc/mtab should be a symlink to /proc/mounts.   on my laptop,

Re: What means "<<" in dependencies at packages.debian.org?

2019-03-10 Thread Tomaž Šolc
Hi On 10. 03. 19 20:14, Kent West wrote: > The ">=" surely means "greater than or equal to", but what is "<<"? > "less than or less than"? "<<" means "strictly earlier (i.e. less than)". In other words, it matches versions that sort earlier, but are not equal to the right-hand-side. This is in co

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2019 at 13:18:54 -0400, deb wrote: > I posted a question A/Vs and got negative waves like the below. It only looks "negative" because you have an agenda. I myself thought the responses were reasonable and balanced. > Several people ASS-UMED I was trying to kludge Windows into Linux

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:46:42 + mick crane wrote: > On 2019-03-10 17:13, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:35:18 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > >>Hi. > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:32:42PM -, Curt wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > I thought he was saying the surest approach is n

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:30:46PM -0400, Default User wrote: > So, the file /lib/systemd/system/minissdpd.service is unchanged since Feb > 27 22:13. It does NOT appear to include the contents of, or even refer > to, /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d/override.conf, dated Mar 1

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, deb wrote: I posted a question A/Vs and got negative waves like the below. Several people ASS-UMED I was trying to kludge Windows into Linux, (see Canonical if you want to find Linux-folk sucking up to Windows) instead of working to bring Linux into Windows strongholds (a

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:13:35PM +, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:35:18 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:32:42PM -, Curt wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought he was saying the surest approach is not touching Windows > > > with a ten foot pole, > > > >

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Default User
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 1:45 PM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 10/03/2019 13:25, Default User wrote: > > So, should I try manually editing /lib/systemd/system/minissdpd.service? > > If you do that, you'll lose changes the next time the package is upgraded. > > To see

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread mick crane
On 2019-03-10 17:13, Joe wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:35:18 +0300 Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:32:42PM -, Curt wrote: > > I thought he was saying the surest approach is not touching Windows > with a ten foot pole, You're aiming too low. Not touching any non-free O

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/03/2019 à 19:50, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: What kind of system are you using ?   Debian Stretch In current versions of Debian, /etc/mtab should be a symlink to /proc/mounts.   on my laptop, mtab is actually a link to ../proc/self/mounts

Re: What means "<<" in dependencies at packages.debian.org?

2019-03-10 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:14:52 -0500, Kent West wrote: >Example: https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3-kivy > >- >> >> dep: python3 (<< 3.7) dep: >> python3 (>= 3.5~) > > >The ">=" surely means "greater than or e

Re: What means "<<" in dependencies at packages.debian.org?

2019-03-10 Thread Kent West
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andreas Ronnquist wrote: > On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:14:52 -0500, > Kent West wrote: > > >Example: https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3-kivy > > > >- > >> > >> dep: python3 (<< 3.7) dep: > >> python3

What means "<<" in dependencies at packages.debian.org?

2019-03-10 Thread Kent West
Example: https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3-kivy - > > dep: python3 (<< 3.7) dep: > python3 (>= 3.5~) The ">=" surely means "greater than or equal to", but what is "<<"? "less than or less than"? Even more

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 18:36, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : I said half-resolved, as I found a line with /dev/sdh1 in /etc/mtab. Removing it solved the problem, but remains the question:   why /etc/mtab was not updated? What kind of system are you using ?

Re: mkfs problem

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/03/2019 à 17:01, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : hi, I'm trying to format a new USB flash drive and I get this: ==> mount | grep sdh ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1     mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)     mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted filesystem. ==>

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> While bearing in mind that 'free' doesn't mean 'problem-free'. > Remember how many people audited the Heartbleed code before it was > released? Indeed. But it doesn't take more time to update openssl than to update a virus scanner. Stefan

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. You have it: it's called `apt` (i.e. in the world of Debian, the response to "viruses" is to plug the hole they try to exploit, instead of leaving those holes gaping while wasting resources trying to look for known attacks). >  * (Clamscan already caug

Re: mkfs problem

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:01:34PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: hi, I'm trying to format a new USB flash drive and I get this: ==> mount | grep sdh ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1 mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/03/2019 à 18:36, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : I said half-resolved, as I found a line with /dev/sdh1 in /etc/mtab. Removing it solved the problem, but remains the question:   why /etc/mtab was not updated? What kind of system are you using ? In current versions of Debian, /etc/mtab shoul

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Mart van de Wege
deb writes: > Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. > >  * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface. > >  * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 > and just want to check. When you say going back and forth, do you mean over the network? On Linux the be

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 10/03/2019 13:25, Default User wrote: > So, should I try manually editing /lib/systemd/system/minissdpd.service? > If you do that, you'll lose changes the next time the package is upgraded. To see if systemd is seeing your add-in file, use 'systemctl cat minissdpd.service'. It should list your

Re: mkfs problem (half resolved)

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: hi, I'm trying to format a new USB flash drive and I get this: ==> mount | grep sdh ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1 mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted filesystem. ==> mkfs /dev/sdh1 works I said half-resolved, as I

Re: mkfs problem

2019-03-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/03/2019 à 17:01, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit : hi, I'm trying to fromat a nes USB flash drive and I get this: ==> mount | grep sdh ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1     mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)     mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted filesystem. ==> mkfs /dev/sdh1     works You should not fo

And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread deb
I posted a question A/Vs and got negative waves like the below. Several people ASS-UMED I was trying to kludge Windows into Linux, (see Canonical if you want to find Linux-folk sucking up to Windows) instead of working to bring Linux into Windows strongholds (and be aware of the problems there

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:35:18 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:32:42PM -, Curt wrote: > > > > > I thought he was saying the surest approach is not touching Windows > > with a ten foot pole, > > You're aiming too low. Not touching any non-free OS with a ten foot

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Default User
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:21 AM Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 01:03:47PM -, Curt wrote: > > On 2019-03-10, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > >> > > >> # directory name is crucial > > >> mkdir /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d > > >> # file name is not important >

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-10, Reco wrote: >> >> I have >> >> After=network-online.target >> Wants=network-online.target >> >> as per this bug report: >> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=861231 > > That's good for listening INADDR_ANY, but it's not sufficient in this > particular case. >

Re: mkfs problem

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:01:34PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > I'm trying to fromat a nes USB flash drive and I get this: > > ==> mount | grep sdh > > ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1 > mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) > mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted filesystem. > > ==>

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 04:32:42PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-03-10, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/10/2019 10:20 AM, Reco wrote: > >>Hi. > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58:12AM -0400, deb wrote: > >>> Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. > >>> [*SNIP*] > >> > >>>

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-10, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/10/2019 10:20 AM, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58:12AM -0400, deb wrote: >>> Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. >>> [*SNIP*] >> >>> b. Does the list keep a ~ "pinned" answer for these kinds of questions? >> >> Not

mkfs problem

2019-03-10 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
hi, I'm trying to fromat a nes USB flash drive and I get this: ==> mount | grep sdh ==> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdh1 mkfs.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdh1 contains a mounted filesystem. ==> mkfs /dev/sdh1 works any explanation? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 March 2019 10:58:12 deb wrote: > Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. > >  * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface. > >  * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 > and just want to check. > >  * (Clamscan already caught 4 things) > > >

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/10/2019 10:20 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58:12AM -0400, deb wrote: Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. [*SNIP*] b. Does the list keep a ~ "pinned" answer for these kinds of questions? Not that I'm aware of. The thing is - instead of taking an insec

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58:12AM -0400, deb wrote: > Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V. >  * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface. >  * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 and just > want to check. >  * (Clamscan already caught 4 t

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 01:03:47PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-03-10, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >> > >> # directory name is crucial > >> mkdir /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d > >> # file name is not important > >> cat > /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d/override.co

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread Sven Hartge
deb wrote: > a. What does the group suggest running on debian beyond >     - chkrootkit Useless. >     - rkhunter Crap, unmaintained. Both tools produce more false positives than finding anything, just creating a false sense of security while providing no security benefit whatsoever. Grüße,

Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-10 Thread deb
Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V.  * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface.  * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 and just want to check.  * (Clamscan already caught 4 things) a. What does the group suggest running on debian beyond   

Caja's file search --- BUG or Feature?

2019-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm running Stretch with MATE desktop. If I submit a sub-string of a filename to "MATE Search Tool", *ANY* hit reports the full path to the target. That is *GOOD*! HOWEVER, if I'm exploring a specific directory with Caja and then search for the *IDENTICAL* sub-string I get a "hit" with ABSOLU

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/10/19, Curt wrote: > I don't use sudo and was unaware of this timeout feature. > > The timeout interval is configurable, though. > > man sudoers: > > timestamp_timeout > Number of minutes that can elapse before sudo will ask for a passwd > again. > The timeout may include a fraction

Re: One jigdo file missing - cannot build ISO image DVD7.

2019-03-10 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 06:46:36PM +1030, djs wrote: > When using jigdo-lite to download files for debian-9.8.0-amd64-DVD7 the > majority of the files download correctly. The procedure becomes stuck > at http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/afl/afl-doc_2.36b-1_all. > deb . One file missing!

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-03-10 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Freitag, 4. Januar 2019 schrieb Richard Hector: > On 4/01/19 9:49 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > Stephen, I think you're going to have to analyse where the space is > > being used. If you use a graphical desktop then there might be a > > graphical application that can help with this. On GNOME it's ca

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-10, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> >> # directory name is crucial >> mkdir /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d >> # file name is not important >> cat > /etc/systemd/system/minissdpd.service.d/override.conf << EOF >> [Unit] >> After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-enp7s0.device >> sys-su

Re: sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

2019-03-10 Thread 황병희
Dear Brad, On Sun, Mar 10 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: > [...snip...] >>Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?! > > Debian's Brian appears to have the middle initial A, whereas Queen's > guitarist has H (for Harold) as his middle initial. Thus making it > unlikely they're the same person. Ah ye

Re: sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

2019-03-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:58:07 +0900 황병희 wrote: Hello 황병희, >Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?! Debian's Brian appears to have the middle initial A, whereas Queen's guitarist has H (for Harold) as his middle initial. Thus making it unlikely they're the same person. -- Regards _

sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

2019-03-10 Thread 황병희
Hello i'm Queen's fan, however i did discover [Brian May] in lists of Maintainers file [1], when i sent mail to requ...@bugs.debian.org with "getinfo maintainers" in body. Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?! Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea. [1] https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/stuff/ra

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 10/03/2019 04:20, Reco wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 09:27:35PM -0500, Default User wrote: >> Hi, Reco. >> Thanks for the reply and information. >> >> Since I know very little about systemd, may I ask, should: >> >> [Unit] >> After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-enp7s0.device >> sys-subsystem-net-

Re: systemd error

2019-03-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-10, Default User wrote: > > Curt, I often use sudo [command] even when not needed, because the sudo > elevated privileges state "times out" after several minutes, reverting to > unprivileged user state. So if I need to enter another command with > elevated privileges after the elevated

One jigdo file missing - cannot build ISO image DVD7.

2019-03-10 Thread djs
When using jigdo-lite to download files for debian-9.8.0-amd64-DVD7 the majority of the files download correctly. The procedure becomes stuck at http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/afl/afl-doc_2.36b-1_all. deb . One file missing! I waited several weeks to see if this missing file would be u