Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs?

2018-12-03 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 1:30:07 PM UTC+5:30, Kamil Jońca wrote: > I have in my /etc/cron.daily some local scripts. > Some of them can be occassionally time-consuming. > Recently I found that some of them did not end. > And what I found: > 1. as "everybody" knows, in case of anacron presence,

Re: I'd like help reporting an anomaly/bug with wifi and NetworkManager under Buster

2018-12-03 Thread Reco
Hi. Here, at debian-user, we reply to the list so the whole community would benefit from the answers. Writing to a list participant directly can be OK as long as something private is discussed. Which is clearly not the case here. On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 01:26:10PM -0600, craig macdonald w

Re: Bastion server

2018-12-03 Thread Eero Volotinen
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Re: Setting up samba (2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u4) ... Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.

2018-12-03 Thread David Christensen
On 12/2/18 11:39 PM, john doe wrote: On 12/2/2018 9:27 PM, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a Debian 9 machine with Samba: 2018-12-02 12:14:24 dpchrist@dipsy ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version 9.6 2018-12-02 12:14:29 dpchrist@dipsy ~ $ uname -a Linux dipsy 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9

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Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > "Energy"? Or "environmental externalities confounded?" >> I remember it talking specifically about energy. > Interesting. Part of the discussion was about it being useless to recycle those material 'cause most of the damage is in the form of energy used to put those material in this particula

Re: [OT]Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread deloptes
Michael Lange wrote: > This "gray" or "emobodied" energy is usually being grotesquely > underestimated. > According to > https://www.dw.com/en/ecological-footprint-how-gray-energy-is-totally-underestimated/a-43261811 > : > > "The production of a laptop's hardware amounts to 1,000 kWh of grey > en

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 12:01:51 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 03, 2018 10:21:44 AM Brian wrote: > > On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 14:57:53 +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: > > > >>

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Javier Barroso
Sorry for the spam :( copy paste from phone) El lun., 3 dic. 2018 20:04, Javier Barroso escribió: > > > El lun., 3 dic. 2018 18:02, escribió: > >> On Monday, December 03, 2018 10:21:44 AM Brian wrote: >> > On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 14:57:53 +, Curt wrote: >> > > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.co

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Javier Barroso
El lun., 3 dic. 2018 18:02, escribió: > On Monday, December 03, 2018 10:21:44 AM Brian wrote: > > On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 14:57:53 +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: > > > >> > Is there anywhere else

[OT]Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 16:37:22 +0100 wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 09:35:28AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > "Energy"? Or "environmental externalities confounded?" > > > > I remember it talking specifically about energy. > > Interesting. This "gray" or "emobodied" energy is usually being g

Re: I'd like help reporting an anomaly/bug with wifi and NetworkManager under Buster

2018-12-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 09:41:21AM -0600, craig macdonald wrote: > Hello all, > > I've discovered a small bug in linux (wifi?) networking, but I haven't > been able to report it because I don't seem to know the correct > package to report the bug against. Actually you've discovered a

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs?

2018-12-03 Thread Kamil Jońca
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Kamil Jońca wrote: >> 1. as "everybody" knows, in case of anacron presence, system cron jobs >> are delegated to anacron. >> 2. recently in Debian we have anacron.timer which also runs "cron.daily" >>entry. >> 3. there is a timeout in

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > they sail quite beautifully Not to forget the intrinsic corner protection feature at the time of landing. to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > It seems that CDs/DVDs seem to lose single blocks, while flash (sticks, etc) > seem to fail catastrophically, in my experience at least. One can

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, December 03, 2018 10:21:44 AM Brian wrote: > On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 14:57:53 +, Curt wrote: > > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: > > >> > Is there anywhere else I should look? > > >> > > > >> Take a look at /

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> My hunch is that those chips are fairly expensive, ecologically, but > where's the tipping point? I remember reading somewhere that back around the turn of the century a laptop's RAM chips needed about the same energy to produce as the laptop's energy consumption during its lifetime. And AFAIK

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 04:51:50PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > It seems that CDs/DVDs seem to lose single blocks, while flash (sticks, > > etc) seem to fail catastrophically, in my experience at least. > > yes indeed, unless those few blocks are part of a tar file :) H

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > This is, btw, the counter-argument posed here by conservatives wrt. > reducing the carbon footprint: "But China". They don't know what they are > talking about. well given the capacity of a blue ray I still would need plenty of them to copy the relevant data, (not in tar

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018, Curt wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 09:57:53 > From: Curt > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Package install history - logs etc ? > Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:00:24 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.c

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > It seems that CDs/DVDs seem to lose single blocks, while flash (sticks, > etc) seem to fail catastrophically, in my experience at least. yes indeed, unless those few blocks are part of a tar file :)

I'd like help reporting an anomaly/bug with wifi and NetworkManager under Buster

2018-12-03 Thread craig macdonald
Hello all, I've discovered a small bug in linux (wifi?) networking, but I haven't been able to report it because I don't seem to know the correct package to report the bug against. I bought an older, "obsolete" usb wifi adapter (D-Link DWA-130, Rev. F) after reading of the difficulties using

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 03:29:28PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Most probably, yes. But I wouldn't know where to begin to compare the > > ecological footprint[s] [error rates] It seems that CDs/DVDs seem to lose single blocks, while flash (sticks, etc) seem to fail cata

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 09:35:28AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > "Energy"? Or "environmental externalities confounded?" > > I remember it talking specifically about energy. Interesting. Thanks -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 03 Dec 2018 at 14:57:53 +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: > >> > Is there anywhere else I should look? > >> > >> Take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log* too. > > > > (I am not the OP.) Is there a speci

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Curt
On 2018-12-03, deloptes wrote: > > The ecological footprint is neglectable in the contest and we do not want to > argue ... when people pay 1500+ US$ for a new iphone every 3y avg, I guess > I could spent couple of bugs for a good CF or SSD, which I would keep for > 10y. As everyone was respondin

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Curt
On 2018-12-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: >> > Is there anywhere else I should look? >> >> Take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log* too. > > (I am not the OP.) Is there a special tool to look at it -- I tried less > and > saw nothing, the

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, December 03, 2018 06:02:05 AM Steve Kemp wrote: > > Is there anywhere else I should look? > > Take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log* too. (I am not the OP.) Is there a special tool to look at it -- I tried less and saw nothing, then cat which seemed to show binary gibberish (nothing I

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs?

2018-12-03 Thread deloptes
Kamil Jońca wrote: > Here is some journal excerpt: > Dec 03 00:23:54 alfa systemd[1]: anacron.service: State 'stop-sigterm' > timed out. Killing. Dec 03 00:23:54 alfa systemd[1]: anacron.service: > Killing process 8919 (anacron) with signal SIGKILL. Dec 03 00:23:54 alfa > systemd[1]: anacron.servi

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> "Energy"? Or "environmental externalities confounded?" I remember it talking specifically about energy. Stefan

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Most probably, yes. But I wouldn't know where to begin to compare the > ecological footprint of a (small) semiconductor chip (or two?) plus > bonding, packaging and connector with that of one big polycarbonate > disk (plus some magic dyes) plus the amortized cost for a dr

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 09:18:07AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > My hunch is that those chips are fairly expensive, ecologically, but > > where's the tipping point? > > I remember reading somewhere that back around the turn of the century > a laptop's RAM chips needed about the same energy to p

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/03/2018 05:02 AM, Steve Kemp wrote: I'm trying to review the history of installing packages on this system. All my installs are done Synaptic or apt-get. I want to review the time order of installs to jog my memory on an unrelated issue. Is there anywhere else I should look? Take a

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Steve Kemp
> I'm trying to review the history of installing packages on this system. > All my installs are done Synaptic or apt-get. > I want to review the time order of installs to jog my memory on an > unrelated issue. > Is there anywhere else I should look? Take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log* too. Ste

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 04:37:41AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > They are different in shape, price, ruggedness and safety against > > inadverted overwriting. > > Probably also in terms of ecological footprint, BTW. Most probably, yes. But I wouldn't know where to begin to compare the ecologic

Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm trying to review the history of installing packages on this system. All my installs are done Synaptic or apt-get. I want to review the time order of installs to jog my memory on an unrelated issue. I have found Synaptic's File->History menu entry and the /var/log/apt/history.log.NNN.gz file

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs?

2018-12-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Kamil Jońca wrote: > 1. as "everybody" knows, in case of anacron presence, system cron jobs > are delegated to anacron. > 2. recently in Debian we have anacron.timer which also runs "cron.daily" >entry. > 3. there is a timeout in systemd services which cause to kill my jobs

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> They are different in shape, price, ruggedness and safety against > inadverted overwriting. Probably also in terms of ecological footprint, BTW. Stefan

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2018-12-03 Thread Office onFocus
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Re: Setting up samba (2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u4) ... Failed to preset unit: Unit file /etc/systemd/system/samba-ad-dc.service is masked.

2018-12-03 Thread john doe
On 12/3/2018 8:39 AM, john doe wrote: > On 12/2/2018 9:27 PM, David Christensen wrote: >> debian-user: >> >> I have a Debian 9 machine with Samba: >> >> 2018-12-02 12:14:24 dpchrist@dipsy ~ >> $ cat /etc/debian_version >> 9.6 >> >> 2018-12-02 12:14:29 dpchrist@dipsy ~ >> $ uname -a >> Linux dipsy 4