Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread john doe
On 7/3/2018 2:42 AM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 21:58:15 (+0200), john doe wrote: On 7/2/2018 9:17 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have wired connections, my Win 10

Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread David Christensen
On 07/02/18 12:17, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have wired connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphones use WiFi connections. This morning when I When I tried using Wi

Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 21:58:15 (+0200), john doe wrote: > On 7/2/2018 9:17 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our > >home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have > >wired connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphone

Re: 20180630223149.b338d4fd2c97ba4b9b246b67

2018-07-02 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 03/07/18 09:53, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: A hot key should not cause a persistent change. The main culprit, as noted by davidson, is that you were cleaning up your files. Did you remove anything in ~/.config? [...] What is the output of "ls -l ~/.bashrc"? I saw in davidson's reply to your

Re: 20180630223149.b338d4fd2c97ba4b9b246b67

2018-07-02 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 03/07/18 02:58, Josh W. wrote: Hello, I am using Debian Stretch Linux w/ the GNOME desktop. I have been using the same terminals since i upgraded to Stretch ( When first released as stable). It just now stopped showing the colors for the different contents. When i run the $TERM command the o

Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 July 2018 15:17:27 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our home. > Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have wired > connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphones use WiFi > connections. > > This morning when I

Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread john doe
On 7/2/2018 9:17 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have wired connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphones use WiFi connections. This morning when I When I tried usin

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 14:02:31 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 19:50:35 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > Well, it's always difficult to know what the OP¹ is really after. > > > The ?first time this came up (17 months ago), "minimal" was in > > > the sub

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 02:02:31PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > But the OP¹ voraciously consults HOWTOs, and said: > > "Many presume a WEB-SERVER is involved." > > I don't know what others glean from this, but to me it sounds as if > the mention of "web" taints the software somehow, perhaps subco

Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-02 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have wired connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphones use WiFi connections. This morning when I When I tried using WinSCP on the Laptop to transfer a file from

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 19:50:35 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > Well, it's always difficult to know what the OP¹ is really after. The > > ?first time this came up (17 months ago), "minimal" was in the subject > > line, sqlite was looked at favourably, but the fact that it had a

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 18:45:31 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:05:25 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 10:20:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:15 -0500 > > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 21:36:00 (+0100), Joe wro

Re: Kernel 4.16.16-2 and nvidia 390.48-3

2018-07-02 Thread davidson
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Erwan David wrote: Le 07/02/18 à 20:15, davidson a écrit : On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Erwan David wrote: Hi, Since upgrade to kernel 4.16.16-2 I cannot get X11 (not even SDDM), everything blocks with a black screen (event the numlock does not work).  On another PC with Intel driv

Re: Kernel 4.16.16-2 and nvidia 390.48-3

2018-07-02 Thread Erwan David
Le 07/02/18 à 20:15, davidson a écrit : > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Erwan David wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Since upgrade to kernel 4.16.16-2 I cannot get X11 (not even SDDM), >> everything blocks with a black screen (event the numlock does not >> work).  On another PC with Intel driver, no problem, so I suspe

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 10:12:13 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:43:02 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > Why? If you find the cause, you can fix it. Upgrades are careful > > about preserving the system's integrity to run. > > Less and less with each version. > > I have a wheezy: I clone

Re: Terminal Color-Coding

2018-07-02 Thread davidson
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018, davidson wrote: On Sun, 1 Jul 2018, davidson wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Josh W. wrote: Hi, I was working in my Terminal cleaning up my files and folders when i needed a second terminal. When i opened it up the Color-Coding that was visible in my current terminal, was pla

Re: Kernel 4.16.16-2 and nvidia 390.48-3

2018-07-02 Thread davidson
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Erwan David wrote: Hi, Since upgrade to kernel 4.16.16-2 I cannot get X11 (not even SDDM), everything blocks with a black screen (event the numlock does not work). On another PC with Intel driver, no problem, so I suspect it might be a problem between this kernel and the nv

Kernel 4.16.16-2 and nvidia 390.48-3

2018-07-02 Thread Erwan David
Hi, Since upgrade to kernel 4.16.16-2 I cannot get X11 (not even SDDM), everything blocks with a black screen (event the numlock does not work). On another PC with Intel driver, no problem, so I suspect it might be a problem between this kernel and the nvidia driver (I have version 390.48-3 from t

Re: Webmail?

2018-07-02 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 02.07.2018 14:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jul 01, 2018 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Ulf Volmer wrote: >> there is no php5 in debian stretch. > > She probably upgraded from jessie, in which case the php5 that she had > in jessie remained in place after the upgrade to stretch. Yes, agree. And as

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > Well, it's always difficult to know what the OP¹ is really after. The > ?first time this came up (17 months ago), "minimal" was in the subject > line, sqlite was looked at favourably, but the fact that it had a web > interface was seen as a downer, perhaps because the word "w

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:05:25 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 10:20:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:15 -0500 > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 21:36:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:21:11 +0200 > > > > deloptes

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread songbird
Charlie Gibbs wrote: ... > Sure enough, / is full, with all the fun that that entails. ... there are a lot of potential places to get space back: - check /var/log - also, see if you have old kernels that can be removed. - your browser cache may be huge. - downloaded files directory

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 10:20:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:15 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 21:36:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:21:11 +0200 > > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > > > Cousin Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > > > As an a

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

2018-07-02 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-07-02 10:22:57, Jason wrote: Or if they include it but it contains different content than the HTML, or is devoid of any content. The blank plaintext is the ultimate middle finger to the user. At least when it's not there you can fall back to html if you want to. When you put a blank one

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

2018-07-02 Thread Jason
On Sun, Jul 01, 2018 at 10:11:49AM +0100, Ben Oliver wrote: > On 18-06-30 22:31:49, Celejar wrote: > >I suppose everyone's browsing habits are different. I dislike HTML mail > >as much as the next guy (well, perhaps not as much as the true > >believers / fanatics), but I do have to deal with banks,

Re: 20180630223149.b338d4fd2c97ba4b9b246b67

2018-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-02 at 10:58, Josh W. wrote: > Hello, I am using Debian Stretch Linux w/ the GNOME desktop. I have > been using the same terminals since i upgraded to Stretch ( When > first released as stable). It just now stopped showing the colors for > the different contents. Showing them in what co

20180630223149.b338d4fd2c97ba4b9b246b67

2018-07-02 Thread Josh W.
Hello, I am using Debian Stretch Linux w/ the GNOME desktop. I have been using the same terminals since i upgraded to Stretch ( When first released as stable). It just now stopped showing the colors for the different contents. When i run the $TERM command the output is as follows. xterm-256color

Re: atime not updated after 24 hours

2018-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > I have two file systems of the same type (ext3) and mounted with > the same options (rw, relatime, data=ordered). >From mount(8): relatime Update inode access times relative to modify or change time.

Re: Webmail?

2018-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jul 01, 2018 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 01.07.2018 11:43, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Oi, I see, I have installed Stretch last year and PHP5 was there. > > No. > > there is no php5 in debian stretch. She probably upgraded from jessie, in which case the php5 that she had

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:55:48 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2018-07-02, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:43:02 -0500 > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > >> > >> Why? If you find the cause, you can fix it. Upgrades are careful > >> about preserving the system's integrity to run. > >> > > >

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-02, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:43:02 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > >> >> Why? If you find the cause, you can fix it. Upgrades are careful >> about preserving the system's integrity to run. >> > > Less and less with each version. > > I have a wheezy: I cloned it to a spare

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:06:10 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: Hello Carl, >Thoughts? Apply the fix reported by Guillaume. I can confirm it works. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" No, he's just a w* You Married A Tort

Re: sqlite database

2018-07-02 Thread Joe
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:04:15 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 21:36:00 (+0100), Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:21:11 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > Cousin Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > As an alternative to client-server database managers, > > > > such as mysql, m

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread Joe
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 17:43:02 -0500 David Wright wrote: > > Why? If you find the cause, you can fix it. Upgrades are careful > about preserving the system's integrity to run. > Less and less with each version. I have a wheezy: I cloned it to a spare desktop machine, upgraded with some signifi

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-02 Thread Guillaume Clercin
Le lundi 2 juillet 2018, 01:06:10 CEST Carl Fink a écrit : > So, on a Testing system, linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64 came up in the apt > > queue. I installed it and rebooted. > My system froze on reboot. Scrolled through the boot messages on the > console, up to X starting, then this (warning, long e

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

2018-07-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:06:10 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: Hello Carl, >Multiple reboots give the same behavior, never >giving me either a console or X prompt. Same here. Discovered by my wife when she turned the computer on this morning. I haven't removed .0.2, simply manually selected the .0.1 kern

Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-01, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. > > apt-get autoclean doesn't help; neither does apt-get clean. When I > tried apt-get autoremove, the upgrade started, but at 99% completion it > threw the message: > > Error writing to out