Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-17 Thread solitone
On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 00:30:47 CEST Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote: > do i have to disable the secure boot and then proceed with uefi > installation? Yes, you should disable secure boot. I had to do this when I installed Jessie on an HP UEFI laptop.

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-17 Thread Tony Baldwin
On 04/17/2017 07:21 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:30:47AM +0300, Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote: Dear All, How can i install debian with UEFI support? Is there any simple tutorial? Also do i have to disable the secure boot and then proceed with uefi installation? I have t

Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-04-17 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > Nevertheless, I don't see why this package is not > upgraded in Jessie: it just gives a list, and have then no dependency > problem. Packages in Debian Stable are upgraded only when it fixes a security related issue. I agree that the

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-17 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:30:47AM +0300, Karagkiaouris Diamantis wrote: > Dear All, > > How can i install debian with UEFI support? Is there any simple tutorial? > Also do i have to disable the secure boot and then proceed with uefi > installation? > I have tried but then a message "could not aut

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-17 Thread Larry Dighera
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:51:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >Eduard Bloch: >> Hallo, >> * Larry Dighera [Sun, Apr 16 2017, 09:27:46PM]: >>> >>> The new Udoo X86 boards have just begun to ship: . >>> >>> Is anyone able to provide a link to the 64-bit Debian Jessie USB/SD >>> inst

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 April 2017 23:04:57 Richard Owlett wrote: > Please note my usage of "criterion" rather than "criteria". Sorry Richard. I would certainly have noted if you hadn't. It would have screamed at me. I'm afraid that I don't always notice in passing when words are used correctly! Nor do

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Apr 2017 at 17:04:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/17/2017 02:04 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 00:07:39 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >>Le 14/04/2017 à 19:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >> > >>>Does any of this justify a bug report. > >> > >>No. The only bug is t

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/17/2017 04:11 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: Richard Owlett: 4. All installs in this thread have been done using DVD 1 of 13 of Debian 8.6.0 - thus all intrinsically use the same kernel. Is this with the actual dvd or the image of the 1st DVD on a usb-stick? In this case a tautology

Re: Systemd services (was Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...)

2017-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for system administrator and > distribution authors. {systemctl,journalctl,etc.} --user beg to differ. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/17/2017 02:04 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 00:07:39 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 14/04/2017 à 19:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : Does any of this justify a bug report. No. The only bug is that the system installed on the SD card boots while it should not. Why shouldn't th

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 02:57:35PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 06:37:03PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Red Hat employees do have significant involvement in Fedora. This is true. > > May I ask, what model would you prefer? > > Both, actually. Your answer that follows indicat

Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-17 Thread Karagkiaouris Diamantis
Dear All, How can i install debian with UEFI support? Is there any simple tutorial? Also do i have to disable the secure boot and then proceed with uefi installation? I have tried but then a message "could not authenticate boot media" emerges and the boot stop right there. I am new to debian a

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Richard Owlett: > 4. All installs in this thread have been done using DVD 1 of > 13 of Debian 8.6.0 - thus all intrinsically use the same > kernel. Is this with the actual dvd or the image of the 1st DVD on a usb-stick? I assume once everything was installed and rebooted there was an up

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Richard Owlett: > On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 12/04/2017 à 17:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : >>> >>> Whether initiated after power-on OR a restart the observed sequence is: >>> 1. Appearance of the Grub2 menu with a choice of 4 instances of Debian. >>> 2. Select instance in

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 April 2017 12:28:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Ron Bales: > > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in > > This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! > > Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the > book to avoid responding to criticism.

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 April 2017 11:32:14 Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/17/2017 11:04 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : > >> Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the > >> Borg > > > > You realize Debian is not a person, right? > > Anyon

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Apr 2017 at 08:48:50 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-04-17, David Wright wrote: > > > > Oddly, this ancient laptop (Acer) has a slot that makes the SD card > > look like a /dev/sdX disk, and the BIOS is happy to boot from it. > > I have an Acer X1430 with an internal "Multi-in-1 Media Car

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 00:07:39 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 14/04/2017 à 19:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : > > >Does any of this justify a bug report. > > No. The only bug is that the system installed on the SD card boots while it > should not. Why shouldn't the system boot? It has the same

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > You do realise that Ron is the OP of this thread, and presumably even more > new > that yourself? Are you luring me down another irrelevant to the issue path? If you did not notice, instead of (me) being a smart-rear-end I already responded specifically to the OP with the 2 package

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Curt
On 2017-04-17, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Nicolas George: >> L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : >>> Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg >> >> You realize Debian is not a person, right? > > You realize GiaThnYgeia is not a person either, right? > W

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 17/04/2017 à 18:51, Lisi Reisz a écrit : The reason that Debian does not include the drivers for RTL8111 in whichever installer you used (you do not say which it was) will be that RTL8111 requires a non-free driver and Debian includes only free software by default. Don't you mean "firmware"

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 April 2017 17:28:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Ron Bales: > > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in > > This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! > > Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the book > to avoid responding to criticism.

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 April 2017 17:25:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Political > responsibility lies on the organization to respond to criticism or allow > it to rest as valid and unanswered. You seem to labour under the delusion that there is an organisation called "Debian", which could, if it wished, respond

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 16 April 2017 15:12:14 Ron Bales wrote: > Why do you not include the drivers for RTL8111 I have not used Mint for > years because the network never worked I found the drivers and installed > them but way to much trouble I was getting ready to give up for good and > found the instructions

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : > You realize GiaThnYgeia is not a person either, right? Yes, but frankly I do not care. *PLONK*

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Ron Bales: > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the book to avoid responding to criticism. -- "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG "W

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Nicolas George: > L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : >> Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg > > You realize Debian is not a person, right? You realize GiaThnYgeia is not a person either, right? I do relaize that there may be practical/financ

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Eduard Bloch: > Hallo, > * Larry Dighera [Sun, Apr 16 2017, 09:27:46PM]: >> >> The new Udoo X86 boards have just begun to ship: . >> >> Is anyone able to provide a link to the 64-bit Debian Jessie USB/SD >> installation ISO/img? > > Did you try the regular installer from USB

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Ron Bales
Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in On 4/17/2017 10:04 AM, Nicolas George wrote: L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg You realize Debian is not a person, right?

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2017 11:04 AM, Nicolas George wrote: L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg You realize Debian is not a person, right? Anyone remember Karl?? :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-17 Thread Larry Dighera
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:55:23 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: >Hallo, >* Larry Dighera [Sun, Apr 16 2017, 09:27:46PM]: >> >> The new Udoo X86 boards have just begun to ship: . >> >> Is anyone able to provide a link to the 64-bit Debian Jessie USB/SD >> installation ISO/img? > >

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 28 germinal, an CCXXV, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : > Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg You realize Debian is not a person, right?

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2017 11:01 AM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: My mistakes, Lizi, are an irrelevant issue to this observation but no matter what you say and I say neither is speaking as Debian. The hypocritical BORG has no voice on the matter! No, you are not on the same level of Lizi. Lizi has been a faithful

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

2017-04-17 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Don't expect "Debian" to respond to you, it is like talking to the Borg Individuals will speak of Debian, they may be inside or outside Debian, but Debian only speaks through official directives in its one and only web page. No dialog, no comments, no responses. It is like planning to have coffee

Re: ssl isues are Eating me alive.

2017-04-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 08:11:13PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi, > AFAIK jessie is the last Debian release that provides curl linked with > openssl. We've three flavour of libcurl in the archive and the current "default" is the one linked against openssl. libcurl3 - easy-to-use client-side URL transfer

Re: ssl isues are Eating me alive.

2017-04-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:04:01PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > It looks[1] like Squid can do SSL Interception. I imagine it should be > possible, therefore, for squid to perform the HTTPS connection and > either downgrade it to HTTP or to re-encrypt it with a lower grade. YMMV Well automatic down

Re: Jessie for Udoo X86?

2017-04-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Larry Dighera [Sun, Apr 16 2017, 09:27:46PM]: > > The new Udoo X86 boards have just begun to ship: . > > Is anyone able to provide a link to the 64-bit Debian Jessie USB/SD > installation ISO/img? Did you try the regular installer from USB stick already? Data she

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-17 Thread Curt
On 2017-04-17, David Wright wrote: > > Oddly, this ancient laptop (Acer) has a slot that makes the SD card > look like a /dev/sdX disk, and the BIOS is happy to boot from it. I have an Acer X1430 with an internal "Multi-in-1 Media Card Reader" for which an SD card inserted into the reader is reco