On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:48 AM, somebody wrote, off list:
(I'm not sure why you sent it off-list, but I want to respond on-list.
> On 04/10/2017 08:08 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> What we needed was probably for a group like Canonical to have funded
>> development of several alternative services m
On 4/10/17 9:32 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 04/10/2017 09:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Does that mean systemd is the ideal replacement? No. Systemd has these
overreaching tendrils in places it's got no business sticking tendrils.
Why does it have its own ntp daemon? Why does it implement file sy
On 04/10/2017 09:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Does that mean systemd is the ideal replacement? No. Systemd has these
overreaching tendrils in places it's got no business sticking tendrils.
Why does it have its own ntp daemon? Why does it implement file system
automount behavior? These things
On 04/08/2017 01:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
'They' never told us, owners of single user laptops, why we should chose
it.
Simple, as I see it, single user laptop support doesn't pay the bills.
Neither do Desktops. Ubuntu found that one out, for all of their user
friendly features. When Red
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
>> > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The
>> > process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and
>> > adopts all orphan processes.
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
>> SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No.
>> Process monitoring isn't in its scope.
>
> Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The
>
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote:
>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and
>> go. Didn't we have this:
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
>>
>>long before systemd?
>
> This an
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 20:40 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum:
Debian Mailing Lists
debian-user
Community assistance and support for Debian users.
Support for Debian users who speak English.
https://list
GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness?
TRUE
songbird wrote:
> did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
I doubt he does know about it
Please excuse the intrusion, on another thread Felix Miata says:
Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok
on Jessie
> Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum:
> For bug fixes and policy modifications debian-user is the wrong place
> for more than
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
>
>> you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
>> I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
>> unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
>> of listed u
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 04:32:51PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> > > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The
> > > process with PID one is the only immortal proc
Le 10/04/2017 à 10:26, Nathanael Schweers a écrit :
Pascal Hambourg writes:
The procedure in the post you point to is flawed in Debian Jessie (...)
I never said that it works on debian.
Don't misunderstand me : the procedure works with a minor adjustment, so
your information was valuable.
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC):
you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that
I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is
unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed
of listed unsupported hardware that on
Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The
> > process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and
> > adopts all orphan processes. For that reason, any kind of process
> > monitoring, if it ne
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
>> Felix Miata:
>> Would this be IT?
>>1 sudo nano /etc/default/grub
>>2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet iomem=relaxed"
>>3 sudo update-grub
>
> It would be #1 below, the step to take after proving that iomem=relaxed
> is necessary f
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 04:13:48PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> > SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No.
> > Process monitoring isn't in its scope.
>
> Your other
On 4/10/17 2:07 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman
wrote:
On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy
servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's
like being forced to
Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No.
> Process monitoring isn't in its scope.
Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The
process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system,
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 09:37:00AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and
> > go. Didn't we have this:
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.o
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote:
> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and
> go. Didn't we have this:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
>
>long before systemd?
This and start-stop-daemon and probably a few other things are all
hacks
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC):
Felix Miata:
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
Felix Miata composed:
IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
to work with your
On 04/09/2017 02:40 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
On 04/09/2017 10:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Re-inserting _*CRITICAL_ critical information from 1st post
I have a laptop with multiple installs of Debian Jessie using MATE
desktop. There are minor differences of packag
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847154
> * From Linux 4.8, several changes have been made in the kernel
> configuration to 'harden' the system, i.e. to mitigate security bugs.
> Some changes may cause legitimate applications to fail, and can be
> reverted by run-tim
Felix Miata:
> GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC):
>
>> Felix Miata composed:
>
>>> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on
>>> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver
>>> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch.
>
>> Thank you f
Pascal Hambourg writes:
> The version of GRUB included in Jessie at least can handle an encrypted
> /boot. However the Debian installer does not handle this case correctly.
> You must add the following line in /etc/default/grub in order for
> grub-install to install the core image with crypto
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 07:51:56 +0100
Abdelkader Belahcene wrote:
> My machine has another name than localhost like lite.bela.umbb,
> when I install mysql, it always takes the the localhost as the name
> of the machine. this yields in a problem for me, when I use for
> example wordpress and I want
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On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 11:07:13PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman
> wrote:
>
> > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy
>
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