Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 4:15 PM, wrote: > [...] > What systemd brings (mainly[1]) to the table is the decoupling of > different "parts" of init: just imagine you have one service (let's > say a web server) which depends on some other thing (say a file > system being present via ummm... NFS, but it

Re: info

2017-04-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 April 2017 23:12:15 darkestkhan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop wrote: > > hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. but how much > > confusion that us. thousand distributions thousand names. it should take > > only a name with at the most 5 or 6

Re: info

2017-04-08 Thread darkestkhan
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop wrote: > hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. but how much > confusion that us. thousand distributions thousand names. it should take only > a name with at the most 5 or 6 versions of desktop. will it be the monopoly > microsoft t

Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-04-08 Thread Dan Hitt
Thanks Kamaraju, that looks awesome. So extrapolating from the pattern of the dates, i would guess that 'stretch' should be actually released on the creation date of 'buster', 2018-07-01. (And i should note, just for the record, that indeed the wikipedia article on debian versions had more inform

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2017-04-08 Thread domenico cop
hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. but how much confusion that us. thousand distributions thousand names. it should take only a name with at the most 5 or 6 versions of desktop. will it be the monopoly microsoft that makes you divide? however my question is this: among all

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 11:56:10AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 19 germinal, an CCXXV, Martin Read a écrit : > > If a systemd unit for a particular service needs the attention of an expert > > in order to be robust, the SysV-style RC script

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 11:07:32AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 19 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > So we always had multi-user: the trend is rather the other way: > > since everyone has his/her own gadget, complex things

Re: Tuning boot time of my server

2017-04-08 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello Erwan, > Debian > boot time with or without systemd can be neglected, especially for > servers who boot not more than twice a year. That's why I wrote: > > just for sports, I tried to minimise the boot time of my server, which > > is running systemd. I have one mayor blocker: -- Markus Gr

Re: Tuning boot time of my server

2017-04-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.04.2017 um 21:15 schrieb Markus Grunwald: > Hello, > > just for sports, I tried to minimise the boot time of my server, which > is running systemd. I have one mayor blocker: > > % systemd-analyze blame > 10.746s srv-share-backup.mount > 10.258s nfs-kernel-server.service >

Re: Tuning boot time of my server

2017-04-08 Thread Erwan David
Le 04/08/17 à 21:15, Markus Grunwald a écrit : > Hello, > > just for sports, I tried to minimise the boot time of my server, which > is running systemd. I have one mayor blocker: > > % systemd-analyze blame > 10.746s srv-share-backup.mount > 10.258s nfs-kernel-server.service >

Tuning boot time of my server

2017-04-08 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello, just for sports, I tried to minimise the boot time of my server, which is running systemd. I have one mayor blocker: % systemd-analyze blame 10.746s srv-share-backup.mount 10.258s nfs-kernel-server.service 3.311s mysql.service 1.444s apache2.service

Re: Excel shared spreadsheets on samba file server

2017-04-08 Thread Dan Purgert
Dante F B Colò wrote: > Hello everyone > > I 'm trying to find what it happens on my Samba AD servers especially > with shared spreadsheets, my personal opinion this feature on Excel is > crap and unreliable but many people use it, how does Samba currently > behave with this ? Is someone expe

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
writes: > > What systemd brings (mainly[1]) to the table is the decoupling of > different "parts" of init: just imagine you have one service (let's > say a web server) which depends on some other thing (say a file > system being present via ummm... NFS, but it could be a RAID or a > memory stick,

Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-04-08 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 8 Apr 2017, Frank wrote: What makes you think it shouldn't matter? Jessie has version 0.26 of the distro-info-data package. That line must have been added in a later version. Stretch has 0.33 and jessie-backports 0.32~bpo8+1. you are right: installing version .33 actually gives the

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-04-08 at 05:56, Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 19 germinal, an CCXXV, Martin Read a écrit : > >> If a systemd unit for a particular service needs the attention of >> an expert in order to be robust, the SysV-style RC script for the >> same service probably also needs the attention of a

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 germinal, an CCXXV, Martin Read a écrit : > If a systemd unit for a particular service needs the attention of an expert > in order to be robust, the SysV-style RC script for the same service > probably also needs the attention of an expert in order to be robust. > > As such, I find yo

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread Martin Read
On 08/04/17 08:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [1] Yeah: a "declarative" configuration, which may be considered as a plus (less obscure side effects) or as a minus (stronger separation between "priests" and "mortals"). If a systemd unit for a particular service needs the attention of an expert

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 19 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > So we always had multi-user: the trend is rather the other way: > since everyone has his/her own gadget, complex things like desktop > environments tend to do silly things spoiling the multi-user roots > of UNIX. We agree on that. > No

Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-04-08 Thread Frank
Op 08-04-17 om 09:23 schreef Pierre Frenkiel: On Sat, 8 Apr 2017, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: . . . % cat /usr/share/distro-info/debian.csv . . . 11,Bullseye,bullseye,2020-11-05 hi, can you explain why I don't have this line? I am on Jessie, but that should not matter. What makes you t

Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-04-08 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 8 Apr 2017, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: . . . % cat /usr/share/distro-info/debian.csv . . . 11,Bullseye,bullseye,2020-11-05 hi, can you explain why I don't have this line? I am on Jessie, but that should not matter. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 12:06:19AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/07/2017 08:19 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >[snip] > >>Why no one looks at their project and sees the people > >>involved when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied >