Re: Jesse Xfce wallpaper stuck

2017-04-04 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 19:17:47 -0700 David Christensen wrote: >debian-user: > >I have a Dell Inspiron E1505/6400 laptop with Debian and Xfce. I am >running an external monitor: > >2017-04-04 19:01:33 dpchrist@jesse ~ >$ cat /etc/debian_version >8.7

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-04-04 at 12:11, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 03 Apr 2017, The Wanderer wrote: > >> What you don't have is a choice *in the installer* of which init >> system to *start out with*. The installer will always set up >> systemd (possible unusual situations involving preseeding aside); >> if

Jesse Xfce wallpaper stuck

2017-04-04 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a Dell Inspiron E1505/6400 laptop with Debian and Xfce. I am running an external monitor: 2017-04-04 19:01:33 dpchrist@jesse ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.7 2017-04-04 19:01:45 dpchrist@jesse ~ $ uname -a Linux jesse 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1+deb8u2 (2017-03-

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

2017-04-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 04 April 2017 20:29:26 Gregor Zattler wrote: > Hi Mark, debian users, > > * Mark Fletcher [2017-04-03; 21:08]: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:04:16PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > There's another thread recently (during March, I think) on this mailing > > list about the same subject.

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 18:22 (UTC): Felix Miata: GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): ... Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8 to > 9, nothing else changed. Kernel changed from 3.16 to 4.9, big difference if you have the wrong gfxchip:

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Catherine Gramze
Sent from my iPad > On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote: > Counter-argument: One word. Apple. > > (Not that I am an Apple fan by any means, but Apple have for decades > been highly successful making zero effort at backwards compatibility. I > speak from experience, running iOS 9

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 09:38:47AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 12:53:30 -0500 Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Mon, 03 Apr 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > The documentation for ALL the init systems has already been written > > > and is fairly comprehensive. Maintenance on the

Re: Thanks Thomas!

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > (It would be embarrassing if a different Thomas was meant.) context is good... i dislike posting last names to usenet/mailing lists. > songbird wrote: >> your recent efforts helped me get an >> install going via USB stick on this ancient >> machine (the bug with the

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
Mark Copper wrote: > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:36 PM, songbird wrote: >> Mark Copper wrote: is it missing a build dependency or something? what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do? >>> >>> >>> The following NEW packages will be installed: >>> libfile-sharedir-i

Re: Thanks Thomas!

2017-04-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, (It would be embarrassing if a different Thomas was meant.) songbird wrote: > your recent efforts helped me get an > install going via USB stick on this ancient > machine (the bug with the cd image not being > able to find isolinux.bin also was affecting > the netinst i386 cd-image i had dow

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread Mark Copper
On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:36 PM, songbird wrote: > Mark Copper wrote: >>> >>> is it missing a build dependency or something? >>> >>> what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do? >>> >> >> >> The following NEW packages will be installed: >> libfile-sharedir-install-perl libio-all-perl libs

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
Mark Copper wrote: >> >> is it missing a build dependency or something? >> >> what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do? >> > > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > libfile-sharedir-install-perl libio-all-perl libspiffy-perl > libsub-uplevel-perl libtest-warn-perl > > I w

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread Mark Copper
> > is it missing a build dependency or something? > > what does apt-get build-dep libinline-c-perl do? > The following NEW packages will be installed: libfile-sharedir-install-perl libio-all-perl libspiffy-perl libsub-uplevel-perl libtest-warn-perl I wasn't expecting that. The package

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

2017-04-04 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi Mark, debian users, * Mark Fletcher [2017-04-03; 21:08]: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:04:16PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > There's another thread recently (during March, I think) on this mailing > list about the same subject. The gyst is you need to do a > dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrad

Thanks Thomas!

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
your recent efforts helped me get an install going via USB stick on this ancient machine (the bug with the cd image not being able to find isolinux.bin also was affecting the netinst i386 cd-image i had downloaded). the dd to copy the bytes as posted to the bug (see cd-image bug list for thos

Re: glade-gtk3?

2017-04-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.04.2017 um 17:18 schrieb Gene Heskett: > Greetings; > > My last question seemed to have been routed to /dev/null. > > Is there a time in the foreseeable future the complete glade-gtk2 version > 3.8.0 kit of gfx widgits might be updated to gtk3 compatibility? > https://packages.debian.org

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
GiaThnYgeia wrote: ... > Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from 8 to > 9, nothing else changed. As soon as the update/grade finished and it is > rebooted it is all black. Scraping the LXDE/lightdm/Openbox the login > screen works fine and runs apt and everything else

Re: glade-gtk3?

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 April 2017 13:15:04 songbird wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Greetings; >> > >> > My last question seemed to have been routed to /dev/null. >> >> i went and found it. probably wrong mailing list to >> be asking such questions (gtk/gtk3 developers lists >>

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread songbird
Mark Copper wrote: > Red-faced question: > > There is a Perl package, libdevice-usb-perl, in which C code is > "inlined" (using Perl package libinline-c-perl). The first statement > of the inlined C code is > #include > > The query >https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywor

Re: Thin Client

2017-04-04 Thread Brian
On Tue 04 Apr 2017 at 18:05:49 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 07:25:11PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >On Mon 03 Apr 2017 at 17:53:32 +, Curt wrote: > > > >>On 2017-04-03, Brian wrote: > >>> On Mon 03 Apr 2017 at 20:49:33 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >>> > On

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): > ... >> This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early >> Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory. > > What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show? One of the reasons I wrote the post is to

Re: Thin Client

2017-04-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 07:25:11PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 03 Apr 2017 at 17:53:32 +, Curt wrote: On 2017-04-03, Brian wrote: > On Mon 03 Apr 2017 at 20:49:33 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 06:25:51PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> > Although a Raspberry P

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 3 April 2017 at 15:17, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 03 April 2017 13:55:44 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > I think choice in food is important - e.g. flavours of spam: > > > > Closed Source: > > > > Regular Spam Hot & Spicy Spam Jalapeño Spam Spam with Black Pepper Low > [snip etc. ] > > Open S

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 12:53:30 -0500 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 03 Apr 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The documentation for ALL the init systems has already been written > > and is fairly comprehensive. Maintenance on the various inits, > > except systemd, of course -- its implementation is sti

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Mark Copper > There is a Perl package, libdevice-usb-perl, in which C code is > "inlined" (using Perl package libinline-c-perl). The first statement > of the inlined C code is > #include > The query > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=usb.h > shows many results

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 03 Apr 2017, The Wanderer wrote: > What you don't have is a choice *in the installer* of which init system > to *start out with*. The installer will always set up systemd (possible > unusual situations involving preseeding aside); if you want sysvinit > instead, you have to break out of the

Re: where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 11:06:57AM -0500, Mark Copper wrote: > There is a Perl package, libdevice-usb-perl, in which C code is > "inlined" (using Perl package libinline-c-perl). The first statement > of the inlined C code is > #include Typically (but not always), C include files will be in a di

where is usb.h?

2017-04-04 Thread Mark Copper
Red-faced question: There is a Perl package, libdevice-usb-perl, in which C code is "inlined" (using Perl package libinline-c-perl). The first statement of the inlined C code is #include The query https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=usb.h shows many results, even f

Re: strange problem with chromium

2017-04-04 Thread Bernard
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 3/31/17, Dominik George wrote: Hi, […] on Ubuntu 14.04 […] Any chance you chose the wrong mailing lis I missed that part when I skimmed the email. Am writing to say that I am experiencing something similar *occasionally* on Debian Stretch. Was seeing

Avaya IP Office/Aura Users

2017-04-04 Thread addie . taylor
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Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-04 13:51 (UTC): ... This must be a 15y old machine, at least. I think it is a very early Celeron > processor with about 256k video memory. What do 'lspci | grep VGA' and/or 'inxi -c0 -v1' show? Still, if Debian8 runs why does Debian9 fail? Simple upgrade from

Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

2017-04-04 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I installed several times 8.7.1 LXDE and as soon as I forced Stretch on it it will boot up but will not bring up a graphic display. Attempts to revert and/or switch from LightDM to LXDM did not cure the problem. The second time I updated 8.7.1 to its latest and then tried to make the switch to Deb

Re: glade-gtk3?

2017-04-04 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:18:33AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > My last question seemed to have been routed to /dev/null. > > Is there a time in the foreseeable future the complete glade-gtk2 version > 3.8.0 kit of gfx widgits might be updated to gtk3 compatibility? > Maybe a st

Bluetooth Connection Issue

2017-04-04 Thread Michael Milliman
I am running a Toshiba Satellite L755D laptop, debian testing (recently upgraded from jessie), MATE desktop with Blueman bluetooth manager. I was trying to pair a new tablet (running Android 6.0) to my laptop using the Blueman graphical manager. Unfortunately, regardless as to whether the pairing