Re: Network Problem

2016-05-02 Thread Johann Spies
On 28 April 2016 at 18:23, NightC Core wrote: > > The card works in 32 but not under debian 64, when looking around on > google I find many similar cases to mine. > https://www.google.com/search?q=debian%208%20marvell%2088E8056&rct=j > Nightcore > > I see here( http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest

WebGL support suddely broken

2016-05-02 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, after an upgrade on sid, WebGL support is broken on my system, both for Firefox and for Chromium. The symptoms are the same as here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28466387/error-creating-webgl-context-in-chrome-but-not-in-android-browser Any hint on how to fix this? I suspect some webk

WebGL support suddely broken

2016-05-02 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, after an upgrade on sid, WebGL support is broken on my system, both for Firefox and for Chromium. The symptoms are the same as here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28466387/error-creating-webgl-context-in-chrome-but-not-in-android-browser Any hint on how to fix this? I suspect some webk

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-05-01 11:57 (UTC-0400): So I'd like to prose a compromise that recognizes the folks still on dialup and at dialup speeds. Possibly paying by the minute for access. Some pay by the byte even with high bandwidth. Not attaching binaries is about not being wasteful g

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
Gary Roach composed on 2016-05-02 16:38 (UTC-0700): ... Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest of us. Penalizing is the emailing of unsolicited binary attachments to hundreds or thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in the

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 05:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi I wouldn't send pictures e

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Ralph Sanchez writes: > I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very > rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost to > lay wire would be more then they have. My thinking is, we have GPS > that works nearly (ok maybe not) everywhere you'd go and want > in

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: > Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without > penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #417

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:05 Ralph Sanchez wrote: > Tom-That's what I thought too, but I thought someone said earlier that > during the install w/ encryption, Debian would also zero the disk, or > maybe I'm mistaken. As far as the process if I did what your > suggesting and I was going to do, wo

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
On the subject of Dialup, and this is me speaking for just me, but I'd rather have to walk five blocks everytime I need internet then spend 20 a month on dial up :/ I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost t

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 07:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send anything other than pl

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #417

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
Tom-That's what I thought too, but I thought someone said earlier that during the install w/ encryption, Debian would also zero the disk, or maybe I'm mistaken. As far as the process if I did what your suggesting and I was going to do, would it work like this... Boot from USB Live ISO Run choice

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #417

2016-05-02 Thread Tom Dial
Although encryption of the disk (as offered during installation) is a good idea, it protects against loss of the system or disk while powered down. It does not protect against unauthorized access to the running system, and if the threat model includes that, zeroing (or better yet, multiply overwrit

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
Hi, Dan, I have come off list because I find all the politics of this very unpleasant. But I liked your response (inaccurate as it has turned out to be!!!) and felt that it deserved a reply. On Sunday 01 May 2016 18:58:57 Dan Hitt wrote: > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread CD Lexi
Thanks Tom, jic I still take that route. It seems that installing the OS and then ecrypting it during the install will do the same job as running something like Sdelete or Dban, or any other similar program, so I think just to stay on the safe side not knowing how this particular HDD will react I'l

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
Also for the record, reasons I hate windows: It keeps defaulting to another email I created for testing out some email thing instead of the one I think i'm currently signed in under. FML. lol On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Thomas D Dial wrote: > Yes, from my experience it is safe. You may have t

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Thomas D Dial
Yes, from my experience it is safe. You may have to add a partition table before formatting it. If I recall correctly, cfdisk will complain mildly and ask you to do that. The Linux installer might take it in stride, or you might have to run fdisk or cfdisk from the USB ISO. Tom Dial On 05/02/201

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 02 May 2016 14:52:26 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Michael Lange writes: > > I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word > > "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly > > - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech > > So does any classification o

Re: cross-debootstrap error

2016-05-02 Thread Diddier Hilarion
I had the exact same error when I did it with armel. The problem was I was using a ntfs filesystem as the base for the debootstrap, so i guess that caused a problem related to fs permissions. I did the process again in my root fs (ext4) and all went excelent. Thanks for your help. On 01/05/

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Piyavkin writes: > Why you say such about those noble and worthy gentlemen? Well, of course, the epithet applies only to politicians in the other parties. The ones in mine are all noble and worthy gentlemen selflessly dedicated to the Cause. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Michael Lange writes: > I would by the way strongly request to dismiss the use of the word > "parasite" when speaking about human beings, since - speaking frankly > - this sounds a lot like nazi-speech So does any classification of people into "them" and "us". -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com

Re: Multiple live iso's on a single bootable flash drive?

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 02.05.2016 20:50, Brian wrote: On Mon 02 May 2016 at 17:54:35 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: On 01.05.2016 17:55, Brian wrote: On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 21:02:56 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: What's wrong with it? Nothing, but a Ubuntu live ISO serves a different purpose from the Debian installer. Which is

Re: Multiple live iso's on a single bootable flash drive?

2016-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 18:50:32 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Mon 02 May 2016 at 17:54:35 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: > > On 01.05.2016 17:55, Brian wrote: > > >Not a decent argument. Operations such as partitioning and formatting a > > >USB stick and installing GRUB to its MBR all require root privilege.

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
First, my apologies to everyone I CC'ed accidently. I thought when I replied, it was replying to the post not to each email. I'm not used to replying to things in this manner, I usually only communicate with people one on one unless on a forum site. Ha- Thanks for the advice, I'll look into that o

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Piyavkin wrote: > Have you said «Karl Marx»?!.. Oh, no!.. Lisi will get you! ) I quote him as sincere contributor to political and economical theory. Everybody, who pays Value Added Tax, pays for a thing invented by Marx: The Added Value which - according to his theory - goes into the pockets

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Luecke
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Ralph Sanchez wrote: > I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work? It seems so, make sure you're replying to the list's address (here: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"). It's usually not neccessary to reply to all [1]. In this lists code of cond

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Lange
On Mon, 2 May 2016 20:32:17 +0300 Piyavkin wrote: > And by mentioned «professional parasites and criminals» I meant in the > first place exactly those people who live by criminal, fraud, > deception, and literally at other's expense. Which is by definition a > description of lumpen-proletariat (

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 02.05.2016 20:48, John Hasler wrote: Piyavkin writes: But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered «politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? ) ...Ouch! Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many of them are amateur pa

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 02.05.2016 19:05, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Haines Brown wrote: Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Piyavkin wrote: No, but it is new growing relations of production. It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the 19th century. He expec

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
On 05/02/2016 07:39 PM, Ralph Sanchez wrote: > I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work? yes, good job! >I currently use PGP for disk encryption, I haven't delved much into > learning about LUKS, etc but I will now. I also don't use passphrases, passphrase are just passw

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread hu2016
Hi, if unsure, start with a livefile system (like knoppix) and use "shred" to delete the device. But be warned: To do so, EVERYTHING will be lost! After that, you can install any OS you want again. Best regards Hans

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Hans
Hi, if unsure, start with a livefile system (like knoppix) and use "shred" to delete the device. But be warned: To do so, EVERYTHING will be lost! After that, you can install any OS you want again. Best regards Hans

Re: Multiple live iso's on a single bootable flash drive?

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 17:54:35 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: > On 01.05.2016 17:55, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 21:02:56 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: > > > >>What's wrong with it? > > > >Nothing, but a Ubuntu live ISO serves a different purpose from the > >Debian installer. Which is not to say enhanc

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Piyavkin writes: > But, I wonder, /whom/ exactly did you bear in mind when you triggered > «politics detection» alert at words «professional parasites»? ) > ...Ouch! Politicians, most likely. All of them. It's not true, of course. Many of them are amateur parasites. -- John Hasler jhas...@new

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work? I currently use PGP for disk encryption, I haven't delved much into learning about LUKS, etc but I will now. I also don't use passphrases, I use a minisd card so keylogging software can't catch me entering my phrase. Thanks for all t

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 02.05.2016 17:16, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote: professional parasites OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This list is not the place. Lisi Hi, Lisi! Actually, I'm not intended to elaborate the o-topic any further be

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
Ralph, Again, use the button reply to list. Disk encryption don't use gpg. You just have to remember a pass pharase that you use for unlock your hard disk. Installer will overwrite all your disk, but if you want you can skip this step by pressing "cancel" button please learn what gpg is and wha

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
Am 02.05.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Ralph Sanchez: > Heqamilus --- Not an expert, but I've worked with Kali and Backtrack > for quite a while from USB live boot and figure, if I didn't kill > myself virtually while perm logged in as a root user, I should be okay > switching to debian. Plus it's more

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
Hi, 1) You might want to use "Reply to list", so that all readers can see your answer. 2) Unneeded files are gone, as soon as you format the disk. Same for any malware, aside from the fact that Windows malware won't run on Linux anyway. The only thing possible would be people recovering date from

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Haines Brown wrote: > > Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Piyavkin wrote: > No, but it is new growing relations of production. It's in no way crypto, but quite near to the vision of Karl Marx in the 19th century. He expected it to happen for classic economy afte

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
Hello & welcome to Linux! To be honest, I haven't found a good reason to zero any media, unless I was decommissioning it and/or selling it. When you create a new file system on installation, any new information will overwrite the old one. And as soon as it's created, the old file system won't be a

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
If you want to encrypt your hard drive using a passphrase debian automatically wipe all your disk using random data.

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
On 05/02/2016 05:00 PM, CD Lexi wrote: > Hey everyone. I'm currently looking to switch to Debian from Windows. I > used to love windows, but with every upgrade it seems I lose privacy, Very good choice. Are you expert? If not try to check if you prefer to use ubuntu instead. How old is your la

Zero filling my HDD before installation

2016-05-02 Thread CD Lexi
Hey everyone. I'm currently looking to switch to Debian from Windows. I used to love windows, but with every upgrade it seems I lose privacy, control and honestly functionality. Sure, there's a lot more I can, if that wasn't mitigated by what windows wants me to do at the time. I should have never

Re: Janice_find__your_perfect____ dentist

2016-05-02 Thread Janice Biddulph
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Re: jimo5050_find__your_perfect____ dentist

2016-05-02 Thread jim obrien
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Re: brisestreda_find__your_perfect____ dentist

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Re: Gene_find__your_perfect____ dentist

2016-05-02 Thread Gene Jenkins
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Re: Multiple live iso's on a single bootable flash drive?

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 01.05.2016 17:55, Brian wrote: On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 21:02:56 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: On 29.04.2016 22:59, Brian wrote: On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 21:57:53 +0300, Piyavkin wrote: [...Snip...] It is a source of contention (and a number of bug reports) but it is by design. Why such design? Su

Re: Rodrigo_find__your_perfect____ dentist

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Re: Terri_find__your_perfect____ dentist

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Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 01.05.2016 21:27, Haines Brown wrote: Incidentally, I'm not suggesting that FOSS is crypto-socialist. Haines No, but it is new growing relations of production. Best regards, Dmitry Piyavkin

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:07:29 Piyavkin wrote: > professional > parasites OUCH! Can we keep politics out of this - be it far left or far right? This list is not the place. Lisi

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:01:12 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > >

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 01.05.2016 18:39, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2016 01 May 08:23 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Hans Vogelsberger writes: Why workers only? There are other humans, too. Class struggle. I struggled to pay attention in social studies class way back in grade school 40+ years ago. Does that count? ;

Re: [OT]: May Day

2016-05-02 Thread Piyavkin
On 01.05.2016 15:26, Hans Vogelsberger wrote: Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:49:06 +0300 schrieb Piyavkin : Congratulations with International Worker's Day to all the working (in FOSS industry and at all) people! ) Have a nice day! Best regards, Dmitry Piyavkin Why workers only? There are other hum

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > > send anything other than plain text files. This leaves me

Re: USB tethering and interface naming on Debian/unstable

2016-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 11:28:47 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > What is the rule for interface naming when doing USB tethering > on Debian/unstable (with systemd)? > > In December, I had enx02060b0e, but yesterday, I had enp0s20u2. > Isn't the interface supposed to be fixed? Not fixed; but p

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 12:06:04 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2016 11:51:46 Brian wrote: > > I don't know where you (or anyone else) gets the idea there is a 10K > > maximum size limit on attachments in mails sent to -user. > > Here is where I (recently) got it - the CoC just says "n

debootstrap mips jessie failure

2016-05-02 Thread Sergey Fedorov
Hi, I can't make jessie chroot system for mips or mipsel. How I do: # Prepare chroot prepare_chroot() { suit=$1 target=$2 chroot_name=$3 arch=${4:-`dpkg --print-architecture`} extra_packages="ccache" user=`id -un` root_user=$user

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 11:51:46 Brian wrote: > I don't know where you (or anyone else) gets the idea there is a 10K > maximum size limit on attachments in mails sent to -user. Here is where I (recently) got it - the CoC just says "not large". :-/ -- "Do no

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 May 2016 at 18:57:32 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > B. I see no reason to go further with this since everything has been beaten > into the ground and all of my problems have been fixed. I saw no useful > information in the majordomo returned message (after I found it in the aol > spam folder

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 08:44:53 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > [...] > > > That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into > > the bit bucket [...] > > I doubt that part. Especially having already received rejec

Re: all at a sudden Firefox

2016-05-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-05-01 23:29:06 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I start suspecting that with the update to Firefox 46 something that > handles 4K screen fonts changed and thus the problem showed up. Firefox 46 switched to GTK3. So, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some related changes. At least, the

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem if > > I wish to post a screen shot. I have b

Re: Interface hotplugging

2016-05-02 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:00:30AM +0200, Jarek wrote: > Hello! > > I'd like to know, if it is possible to configure networking in Debian > headless box (no gui), so the USB 4G dongle will hijack default route > from ethernet interface after plug-in, and return default route after > disconne

USB tethering and interface naming on Debian/unstable

2016-05-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
What is the rule for interface naming when doing USB tethering on Debian/unstable (with systemd)? In December, I had enx02060b0e, but yesterday, I had enp0s20u2. Isn't the interface supposed to be fixed? -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML -

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 02:57:32 Gary Roach wrote: > > Lisi > > Lesi Accuracy is obviously not something you bother with. Lisi

Re: all at a sudden Firefox

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 03:31:50 Doug wrote: > On 05/01/2016 01:07 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > > On Sun, 01 May 2016 09:13:30 +, Curt wrote: > >> I suppose you've tried the obvious (cough) like starting Firefox in safe > >> mode, > >> refreshing the sucker, renaming prefs.js, using a virgin pro

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 11:44 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [...] That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into the bit bucket [...] I doubt that part. Especially having already