Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 02:10 AM, 慕冬亮 wrote: About stability, I wonder testing version is enough for me? Though I certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is very stable , I want to ask it again? Is it stable for personal computer ,not workstation or server? Thank you in adv

RE: no ntp installed

2015-04-27 Thread 慕冬亮
https://wiki.debian.org/NTPI think this is useful for you! If you want detailed configuration , you can refer debian-handbook.http://debian-handbook.info/mudongliang > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: matth...@bodenbinder.de > Subject: no ntp installed > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:38:48 +

RE: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread 慕冬亮
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 01:33:06 -0400 > From: wayward4...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: testing or stable > > On 04/28/2015 01:00 AM, mudongliang wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > >> I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few

issue with systemd-udev-settle

2015-04-27 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hi, I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and got into trouble with extra long boot times of > 2 min. I found out that it due to systemd-udev-settle.service. My PC is using lvm and that somehow interferes with systemd-udev-settle.service. The web tells that systemd-udev-settle.service is needed

no ntp installed

2015-04-27 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hi, I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and found out that no ntp or ntpdate or rdate is installed. How is debian 8 synchronizing the system time? Greetings Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 01:00 AM, mudongliang wrote: On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. Personally I've been using jessie for about the same

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread mudongliang
On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:38 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is > going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. > > Personally I've been using jessie for about the same time and intend to > move to stretc

Re: udev - set persistent name for WLAN Adapter

2015-04-27 Thread csanyipal
Bob Proulx writes: > csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: >> Bob Proulx writes: >> > Michael Biebl wrote: >> >> Any idea why it changes the MAC? >> > >> > Hmm... Is 'macchanger' involved in this in any way? >> >> I just installed macchanger and run: > > Wait! That was NOT a request to install macchanger.

Re: Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-27 Thread dietmar . 4711
> have you tried installing guest-additions for that vbox version? Yes, but that did not help. Dietmar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/trinity-373

Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-27 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2015-04-28 11:58 GMT+08:00 : > Hi, > > I just installed Jessie in a Virtualbox environment (running on Win7 64Bit) > without any problems. > The installed system starts up fine. > > But when I try to open a terminal in the window manager, the icon and a > "waiting cursor" appears for some second

Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-27 Thread dietmar . 4711
Hi, I just installed Jessie in a Virtualbox environment (running on Win7 64Bit) without any problems. The installed system starts up fine. But when I try to open a terminal in the window manager, the icon and a "waiting cursor" appears for some seconds, then they close. Seems that the terminal

consolekit in jessie (Re: [SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie)

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 03:29 schrieb Bill Baker: > That's what I thought at first, too. But when I ran 'apt-get remove > consolekit', it didn't report any dependencies. I expected to see a > list as long as my arm, but nope. consolekit is pretty much unused in jessie. There are only very few packages

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 21:29:07 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/27/2015 at 09:24 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Yes, one can write a small script that also removes blank lines that > > come after a Gtk-WARNING line. > > My brief research seems to indicate the blank line is actually printed > _before_ th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
On 04/27/2015 09:26 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/27/2015 at 09:19 PM, Bill Baker wrote: > >> On a whim, I decided to see what would happen if I uninstalled >> consolekit. Lo and behold, after uninstalling it, I was able to >> upgrade the kernel normally and run a normal upgrade. Thanks to >> e

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 20:23:48 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > "Here" those annoying messages are sent to ~/.xsession-errors which has > been open about 9 days and is approaching 58 MiB in size. To be fair, > most of the garbage is not coming from glib/gtk but rather from Firefox > (I am not using Iceweasel

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 09:24 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-04-27 20:52:15 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 04/27/2015 at 08:44 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> >>> I completely agree. I would never do that. Writing a shell >>> function that greps out the Gtk-WARNING lines may be better. >> >> N

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 09:19 PM, Bill Baker wrote: > On a whim, I decided to see what would happen if I uninstalled > consolekit. Lo and behold, after uninstalling it, I was able to > upgrade the kernel normally and run a normal upgrade. Thanks to > everyone who offered help. Replying to your respons

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 20:52:15 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/27/2015 at 08:44 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > I completely agree. I would never do that. Writing a shell function > > that greps out the Gtk-WARNING lines may be better. > > Not ideal, though, since there are (as I understand matters) oft

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
"Here" those annoying messages are sent to ~/.xsession-errors which has been open about 9 days and is approaching 58 MiB in size. To be fair, most of the garbage is not coming from glib/gtk but rather from Firefox (I am not using Iceweasel) complaining about javascript this or that. Oh well, "dis

[SOLVED] Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
On a whim, I decided to see what would happen if I uninstalled consolekit. Lo and behold, after uninstalling it, I was able to upgrade the kernel normally and run a normal upgrade. Thanks to everyone who offered help. Replying to your responses helped me think through this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 08:44 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-04-27 14:57:05 -0500, Tim Kelley wrote: > >> Well, typing it is cumbersome so you can do in ~/.bash_aliases or >> ~/.bashrc >> >> alias emacs='emacs > /dev/null 2>&1' >> >> I agree though, that is annoying, and a lot of GTK programs do

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 14:57:05 -0500, Tim Kelley wrote: > Well, typing it is cumbersome so you can do in ~/.bash_aliases or ~/.bashrc > > alias emacs='emacs > /dev/null 2>&1' > > I agree though, that is annoying, and a lot of GTK programs do that. And > sending the output to null isn't really the right a

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 13:58:11 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Most mail transfer agents such as Postfix and others add a valid > Message-Id if one is not present. I still receive messages without a Message-Id, though this is rare. The only example I remember is some e-ticket system, using qmail as its MTA. An

Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-27 Thread John J. Boyer
I'm using msmtp to send mail, but I suspect the same problem would occur with any of the other mail programs. Whenever I try to send a message I get the error "TLS handshake failed. Operation timed out." There sems to be a mismatch between the default TLS settings and those of my mail provider'

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Dengel
Am 28.04.2015 um 01:43 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 04/27/2015 at 07:15 PM, Bill Baker wrote: >> Here is the output from sudo apt-get install linux-image-586: >> >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> You might want to run 'apt-get

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 11:04:51 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Exactly. Saying "But this matters in a POSIX-compliant filesystem" > is very different from "But with the current solution". To me, > a "current solution" is an concrete implementation, not a POSIX > specification; the latter is a target. I reall

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 07:15 PM, Bill Baker wrote: > On 04/27/2015 07:05 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> >> A few thoughts: >> >> 1. Is there a reason why you need 'apt-get -f install packagename'? >> Does it error out if you just run 'apt-get install packagename'? > > I used -f because the output suggest

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
As I understand it, it is generally considered unprofessional to have your application print warnings. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Erwan David wrote: > > Juha Heinanen a écrit : > > > Is there anything that can be done to get rid of those warnings? Which >

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
On 04/27/2015 07:04 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Have you rebooted, using that kernel? > What does uname -r say? I have rebooted, but the new kernel has not installed. Here is uname -r: 2.6.32-5-486 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

New install "standard system utilties"

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
I intentionally split the thread since I didn't think this would help the original poster but might be interesting to others. The Wanderer wrote: > By a "standard installation", I believe that page means the installation > you'll get if you select the "Standard system" task at install time, and >

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
On 04/27/2015 07:05 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > > A few thoughts: > > 1. Is there a reason why you need 'apt-get -f install packagename'? Does > it error out if you just run 'apt-get install packagename'? I used -f because the output suggested I use it. > 2. What happens if you try to install linux

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:39:56 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Erwan David wrote: > > Juha Heinanen a écrit : > > > Is there anything that can be done to get rid of those warnings? > > > Which package the bug lies? Is there any hope that the bugs are > > > fixed before the next Debian release? > > To f

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 06:57 PM, Bill Baker wrote: > On 04/27/2015 06:23 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 28.04.2015 um 00:05 schrieb Bill Baker: >>> Anyone have any ideas on what I can try next? >>> >> First upgrade your kernel to the wheezy version (reboot) and everything >> will be fine. >> >> Dist-

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 00:57 schrieb Bill Baker: > On 04/27/2015 06:23 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 28.04.2015 um 00:05 schrieb Bill Baker: >>> Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. >>> It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. >>> Una

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
On 04/27/2015 06:23 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 28.04.2015 um 00:05 schrieb Bill Baker: >> Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. >> It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. >> Uname -a returns the following: >> >> Linux shunnel

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Erwan David wrote: > Juha Heinanen a écrit : > > Is there anything that can be done to get rid of those warnings? Which > > package the bug lies? Is there any hope that the bugs are fixed before > > the next Debian release? To fix the bugs associated with those Gtk-WARNING messages it would be n

Re: Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 00:05 schrieb Bill Baker: > Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. > It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. > Uname -a returns the following: > > Linux shunnel 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Mon Feb 25 00:22:26 UTC 2013 i586 G

Unable to complete package upgrade in jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Baker
Over the weekend, I upgraded my headless ssh server from wheezy to jessie. It's an older computer, built in the year 2000 with an AMD-K6 processor. Uname -a returns the following: Linux shunnel 2.6.32-5-486 #1 Mon Feb 25 00:22:26 UTC 2013 i586 GNU/Linux Since upgrading, whenever I try to do an a

Re: After installing Debian Jessie it boot me in tty1 only...

2015-04-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 April 2015 16:46:25 Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > I just had a big mistake - I installed the netinstall version which is on > the main debian.org That isn't per se a mistake. I would say that it is much the best choice. If it caused you problems you must have installed it wrongly. I al

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:49:50 +0300 Juha Heinanen wrote: > after upgrading to jessie that came with emacs24, i get the warnings > below to terminal window each time i start emacs in x11 environment. > any hints on how to get rid of them? > > -- juha > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsi

Re: Installed size information error?

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 03:46 PM, hos...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: > The information on installed size does not seem to be > correct. On the page > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en > there is the statement: > "A standard installation for the amd64 architecture, including all >

Installed size information error?

2015-04-27 Thread hosack
The information on installed size does not seem to be correct. On the page https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en there is the statement: "A standard installation for the amd64 architecture, including all standard packages and using the default kernel, takes up 822MB of disk s

Re: After installing Debian Jessie it boot me in tty1 only...

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > I just had a big mistake - I installed the netinstall version which > is on the main debian.org website - Download link. It had only the > main system without anything - like Gnome... The netinstall version requires the network to install GNOME and other desktop environmen

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Nicolas George wrote: > > Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > /^Message-ID:\s+(<\S+>)( \(added by .*\))?$/i or next; > > > > I have never seen this "added by" in my mails, but assuming it is > > necessary for you, > > Yes, obviously. This came from some MTA's when the

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
Well, typing it is cumbersome so you can do in ~/.bash_aliases or ~/.bashrc alias emacs='emacs > /dev/null 2>&1' I agree though, that is annoying, and a lot of GTK programs do that. And sending the output to null isn't really the right answer, since you'll miss actual errors that are important. A

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-27, Juha Heinanen wrote: > > Typing emacs >/dev/null 2>&1 is too cumbersome and starting from menu Create an alias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/04/2015, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/27/2015 at 02:12 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >> The next more stable version, is the "olderstable" (?) version, >> which is the last previous "oldstable" version, and, which has a >> version name, that is bubbled down from the "oldstable" version, when >> a

Sound HDMI Gigabyte Radeon R9 280

2015-04-27 Thread Деревянкин Андрей
Hello. I installed system of Debian/Wheezy 64bit. In my system the videocard Gigabyte Radeon R9 280, GV - R928WF3OC-3GB is installed. I established packages: fglrx-driver libgl1-fglrx-glx fglrx-modules-dkms amd-clinfo amd-opencl-icd fglrx-atieventsd fglrx-control libgl1-fglrx-glx xvba-va-driver.

Re: What hijack/hijacking a thread means (was ... Re: python3-xlib lost in Debian)

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Good explanation, changed subject to reflect that. For everyone who has this problem in their mail reader that will be the start of the new topic discussion for them. For everyone else we see it as a correctly threaded response to the message that started this topic of di

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 02:11 PM, songbird wrote: > Joris Bolsens wrote: > >> sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> >> Sid > > a few days ago that would have been accurate, but as of the release > of Jessie Wheezy is now oldstable, Jessie is stable, testing is > testing (bu

Re: ATA resets with Intel 8/C220 and HGST drive

2015-04-27 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 03:03:58PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > [ 409.772773] ata2.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED > [ 409.772776] ata2.00: cmd 61/28:88:e0:a3:04/00:00:02:00:00/40 tag 17 ncq > 20480 out > [ 409.772776] res 50/00:28:e0:a3:04/00:00:02:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 > (ATA

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Erwan David
Le 27/04/2015 21:16, Juha Heinanen a écrit : > Tim Kelley writes: > >> If you just use the console emacs, you can install the emacs-nox version of >> 24. > In this case, i used x11 emacs, but started it from console. > >> In anycase, they’re just warnings, and can be ignored. > Yes, I know, but the

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > In short, ext3 is bad for renames, but if Bob Proulx's suggestion > were implemented (without a workaround such that caching the whole > directory after it is opened[*]), it would be much worse as arbitrary > entries would be missed in a readdir sequence. To be clear I did

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-27 Thread Bob Proulx
David Wright wrote: > Quoting Kushal Kumaran: > > Bob Proulx writes: > > > If a directory became full it was easy to extend it > > > by writing the array longer. But if an early entry in the array was > > > deleted the system would zero it out rather than move each and every > > > entry in the fil

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Juha Heinanen
Tim Kelley writes: > If you just use the console emacs, you can install the emacs-nox version of > 24. In this case, i used x11 emacs, but started it from console. > In anycase, they’re just warnings, and can be ignored. Yes, I know, but the warnings consume the whole page of the terminal windo

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joe
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:59:58 -0500 Tim Kelley wrote: > True that. When you run unstable or testing it's best to take great > care when updating or installing anything, as in sid installing > something can trigger a shitstorm depending on what was uploaded that > day ... stable only for me these d

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
If you just use the console emacs, you can install the emacs-nox version of 24. In anycase, they’re just warnings, and can be ignored. It’s just stating something some other packager did was deprecated but still functional .. you can start emacs with emacs >/dev/null 2>&1 if you like, or not start

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
True that. When you run unstable or testing it's best to take great care when updating or installing anything, as in sid installing something can trigger a shitstorm depending on what was uploaded that day ... stable only for me these days. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Sven Hartg

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joe
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 02:12:02 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > > My understanding, and, I stand to be corrected in this belief, > follows, below. > > Sid = "experimental" - the name Sid is permanent for the experimental > version, and is so named, because the character Sid, in Toy Story, the > origin

jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-27 Thread Juha Heinanen
after upgrading to jessie that came with emacs24, i get the warnings below to terminal window each time i start emacs in x11 environment. any hints on how to get rid of them? -- juha (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:57:17: Theming engine 'unico' not found (ema

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 02:12 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 28/04/2015, Joris Bolsens wrote: >> sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> >> Sid >> > > Hello. > > I believe that this is part of the confusion that occurs, due to the > use of version names for versions and status

Re: Appropriate forum to discuss really small Debian [derivative?/blend??]

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Sun 26 Apr 2015 at 07:06:33 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [cc: debian-ble...@lists.debian.org Reply to: debian-user@lists.debian.org] Is there a USENET group or mailing list aimed at really small Debian inspired systems? In general - probably "no". In particular http://lin

Re: apt vs aptitude (was ... Re: non-stable packages infestation)

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
I think the reason some prefer apt is that aptitude has more finely grained dependency handling and the dependencies have grown tremendously over the years (over 40,000 discrete packages now). Even though apt will not break anything, it's never a bad idea to use aptitude as it always offer solution

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread songbird
Joris Bolsens wrote: > > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid a few days ago that would have been accurate, but as of the release of Jessie Wheezy is now oldstable, Jessie is stable, testing is testing (but some people will call it Stretch even if Stretch isn't

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/04/2015, Joris Bolsens wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid > Hello. I believe that this is part of the confusion that occurs, due to the use of version names for versions and status. My under

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/27/2015 at 12:49 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: > sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> > Sid It goes stable -> testing -> unstable. Each of these three has a codename. The codename for unstable is always sid. The codenames for the other releases change whenever a

Debian 7.8 amd64 xfce lightdm login screen second monitor sleeps but does not wake up

2015-04-27 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a computer: Intel DQ67SWR motherboard Intel Core i7-2600S processor with Intel HD Graphics 2000 DVI analog port Intel DVI to VGA adapter (came with motherboard) IOGEAR GCS78 KVM switch LG EW224T-PN LCD monitor DP port StarTect DP2VGA2 DP to VGA adapter V

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 sorry, I was under the impression that it went wheezy -> Jessie -> Sid I meant stretch xD On 04/27/2015 09:48 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So if you want to go on tinkering, update to Stretch! Otherwise > stick to Jessie. > > Or you could go to Sid

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 April 2015 17:02:17 Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? Why Sid? Why not Stretch? > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > needing some special co

Re: SELinux policy for Jessie?

2015-04-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 April 2015 15:01:21 Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 04/26/2015 08:46 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 04/26/2015 07:23 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > >> As part of my CentOS-to-Debian visionquest, I'm trying to enable SELinux > >> on Jessie, but I haven't been able to install the policy: > >> > >>E:

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Francisco M Neto
I'd recommend staying with jessie for a few months since testing is going to be just the same until new packages start popping up from sid. Personally I've been using jessie for about the same time and intend to move to stretch in a few months - quite possibly after the first couple of point r

Re: SELinux policy for Jessie?

2015-04-27 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2015-04-27 01:23, schrieb Ian Pilcher: As part of my CentOS-to-Debian visionquest, I'm trying to enable SELinux on Jessie, but I haven't been able to install the policy: E: Package 'selinux-policy-default' has no installation candidate Does it simply not exist yet? It isn't part of the

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 27 April 2015 at 17:05, Pete Orrall wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Joris Bolsens > wrote: > > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > ​I guess you could move either to be testing or sid from jessie.

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Sven Hartge
Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > needing some special configuration, hell I'll even patch a thing and > recompile f

Re: pidgin whatsapp

2015-04-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 09:09:39PM +0600, Ivan Petrov wrote: > How pidgin whatsapp plugin can be installed on wheezy? Not tried, but this should get you started (as you've not told us what - if anything - you've tried so far): # apt-get install git build-essential $ git clone g...@github.com:davi

pidgin whatsapp

2015-04-27 Thread Ivan Petrov
How pidgin whatsapp plugin can be installed on wheezy? I -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mhljfj$8hp$1...@ger.gmane.org

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Pete Orrall
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Joris Bolsens wrote: > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? Jessie was released as the new stable distribution this past Saturday (4-25-2015). You shouldn't have any problems runnin

Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): > On 2015-04-26 13:26:41 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): > > > On 2015-04-24 22:01:37 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): > > > > > So, I would say that this is a

testing or stable

2015-04-27 Thread Joris Bolsens
I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or needing some special configuration, hell I'll even patch a thing and recompile from source if I have to (I know,

Re: After installing Debian Jessie it boot me in tty1 only...

2015-04-27 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hi Everyone! I just had a big mistake - I installed the netinstall version which is on the main debian.org website - Download link. It had only the main system without anything - like Gnome... So I downloaded again - and I had choose the x64 version .iso with Gnome... After install it worked al

Re: All installed packages disappeared from aptitude

2015-04-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:19:36AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Hello: > > I just updated and upgraded a 'testing' system (so listed in > sources.list) and aptitude shows no installed packages. Here's a > typical aptitude entry: > > i A apache2 2.4.10-9 > > and another: > > ih perl 5.20.1-5

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jörg-Volker Peetz (jvpe...@web.de): > Correction of the "jot" command arguments: > > Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 04/25/2015 16:15: > > > >> > >> for i in `seq 5000` > >> do > >> date=$((1000+i)) > >> cat < "$dir/cur/$date.1.host:2,S" > > > > > > the situation becomes much worse i

All installed packages disappeared from aptitude

2015-04-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Hello: I just updated and upgraded a 'testing' system (so listed in sources.list) and aptitude shows no installed packages. Here's a typical aptitude entry: i A apache2 2.4.10-9 and another: ih perl 5.20.1-5 (The 'h' because I put it on hold when I saw it was among many potentially broken pa

[SOLVED] Re: Wheezy: making a bootable HD with Grub

2015-04-27 Thread Ldten K
On Mon, 4/27/15, Brian wrote: > Not only is there no TAB completion and command history but you have to > handle module loading yourself. 'insmod normal' and 'insmod linux' are > needed. I decided to follow the path you suggested as it seemed the simplest and easiest for me to do. Here's w

Re: install photivo on debian jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Tim K
Did you look in the sources for sid? You should try grabbing that, and compiling with apt. Much preferable to installing from a PPA for Ubuntu ... On Apr 27, 2015 7:27 AM, "Robert Spiteri" wrote: > Dear Sir / Madam, > > I wish to install Photivo in Debian Jessie but I am not managing. > > I alrea

Re: SELinux policy for Jessie?

2015-04-27 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 04/26/2015 08:46 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/26/2015 07:23 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: As part of my CentOS-to-Debian visionquest, I'm trying to enable SELinux on Jessie, but I haven't been able to install the policy: E: Package 'selinux-policy-default' has no installation candidate Does it si

Re: Appropriate forum to discuss really small Debian [derivative?/blend??]

2015-04-27 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > [cc: debian-ble...@lists.debian.org Reply to: > debian-user@lists.debian.org] > > Is there a USENET group or mailing list aimed at really small > Debian inspired systems? > > The system described in "How To Build a Minimal Linux System from > Source Code" > [http://users.

Re: Appropriate forum to discuss really small Debian [derivative?/blend??]

2015-04-27 Thread Brian
On Sun 26 Apr 2015 at 07:06:33 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > [cc: debian-ble...@lists.debian.org Reply to: > debian-user@lists.debian.org] > > Is there a USENET group or mailing list aimed at really small Debian > inspired systems? In general - probably "no". In particular http://linux.voyag

Re: install photivo on debian jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Apr 2015 at 14:12:03 +0200, Robert Spiteri wrote: > I wish to install Photivo in Debian Jessie but I am not managing. > > I already tried to install it in Debian Wheezy but got broken packages and > could not sort it out. I tried to follow instructiona found on the > internet but to no

Re: Appropriate forum to discuss really small Debian [derivative?/blend??]

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Owlett
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 07:06:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [cc: debian-ble...@lists.debian.org Reply to: debian-user@lists.debian.org] Is there a USENET group or mailing list aimed at really small Debian inspired systems? You mean like embedded systems? Not real

Re: Update-Manager has fubar entry, can't find from description given

2015-04-27 Thread Gene Heskett
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main > > updates > > Assuming that this is all on one line, "updates" is a bogus keyword. > You probably want something like: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free > deb http://http.us.debian.org/de

RE: Jessie Kernel Version

2015-04-27 Thread Grant Albitz
Thank you, this confirmed it was linux (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/b54d10f9e0184999b2be7d22b2b11...@stsdcfs01.techsolllc.com

Re: Jessie Kernel Version

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 27.04.2015 um 15:05 schrieb Grant Albitz: > Sorry for the newb question. I am trying to determine the kernel version of > Jessie. Uname -r produces: 3.16.0-4-amd64 > > I have seen other references to 3.16.7 however, and I know 3.16.7 was the > latest 3.16.x. Is 3.16.0-4 really the equivalent

Jessie Kernel Version

2015-04-27 Thread Grant Albitz
Sorry for the newb question. I am trying to determine the kernel version of Jessie. Uname -r produces: 3.16.0-4-amd64 I have seen other references to 3.16.7 however, and I know 3.16.7 was the latest 3.16.x. Is 3.16.0-4 really the equivalent of 3.16.7? either way can someone explain to me how I

ATA resets with Intel 8/C220 and HGST drive

2015-04-27 Thread Nicolas George
Summary: I had annoying resets of the SATA bus with a 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset controller and a HGST Travelstar 7K1000 drive. I recently managed to stop them and as far as I currently know I am satisfied; I write this mail in the hope that it may be useful for anyone having similar issues. If y

Re: Update-Manager has fubar entry, can't find from description given

2015-04-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 07:37:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Update-manager's little triangular icon won't go away. If I can > copy/paste its output: > > But I cannot do anything except a screenshot. Why do the gui writers > saddle us with such broken software? Any numbe

Re: Best way for "Red Hat guy" to learn Debian?

2015-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 02:30:19PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > I'm a longtime user of Red Hat-style distributions (RHL, RHEL, CentOS, > Fedora, etc.). My home router/firewall is a 32-bit VIA C7 system that > is currently running CentOS 6. I really want to move this to a more > modern stable distr

Re: install photivo on debian jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Petter Adsen
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:12:03 +0200 Robert Spiteri wrote: > Dear Sir / Madam, > > I wish to install Photivo in Debian Jessie but I am not managing. > > I already tried to install it in Debian Wheezy but got broken > packages and could not sort it out. I tried to follow instructiona > found on t

Re: Best way for "Red Hat guy" to learn Debian?

2015-04-27 Thread Tim Kelley
Oh, also, you may some some habits that you can dispense with, such as looking around the internet for your software instead of your distribution. Debian has everything, pretty much, try the Debian repos first. And don't willy-nilly add repos to Debian without knowing what you're doing ... there ar

install photivo on debian jessie

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Spiteri
Dear Sir / Madam, I wish to install Photivo in Debian Jessie but I am not managing. I already tried to install it in Debian Wheezy but got broken packages and could not sort it out. I tried to follow instructiona found on the internet but to no avail. Any help is greatly appreciated. I aplogis

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