Re: RAID 1 (mirroring) question

2012-12-18 Thread yudi v
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Note that after a power cycle even if the RAID 1 array needs to be > sync'd between the mirrored disks that the system will still boot okay > and will operate normally. I have no idea what other systems do but > you can boot the system, log in

Re: google-earth + multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Johan, Johan Grönqvist wrote: I also tried and failed installing lsb-core:i386. lsb-core depends on a bunch of packages providing binaries, like python and make, and, as far as I know, multiarch does not allow co-installation of binaries, but only libraries. You

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Tynan
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:52:44 +0100 > From: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > To: > Subject: Re: which version of debian to download > Message-ID: <420ee2b7cf1c65846e4c8d575f2f8...@neutralite.org> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 > Thunderbird/7.0.1 > List-Id

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Brian wrote: > > > I think "auto" is a typo. It should be "auto=true". You are right! > > It is documented that "auto" is an alias for "auto-install/enable=true > > priority=critical". I don't think it is a typo. > > I have had a change of mind after thinkin

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > The preseed file needn't be on the network, Being present in an ISO and > with url= pointing to it is sufficient. Or it could be on a USB stick. Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the file url syntax. But present in the iso then doesn't *need* the url= to point to i

Re: switching distributions, but keeping KDE... how do i migrate my email?

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 15:54 -0800, salamandir wrote: > i am switching from kubuntu 12.04.1 to debian squeeze 2, but i'm > keeping KDE, > > > in the past, i have had considerable difficulty getting my email to > migrate > > successfully when i upgrade, and i'm wondering if there is a > "preferre

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > > I think "auto" is a typo. It should be "auto=true". > > It is documented that "auto" is an alias for "auto-install/enable=true > priority=critical". I don't think it is a typo. I have had a change of mind after thin

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to s

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 01:04, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Michael Biebl wrote: >> On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. >>> Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to >>> understand how it works, but I think giving r

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Biebl wrote: On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to some softwares is its role. sudo is one option

Re: switching distributions, but keeping KDE... how do i migrate my email?

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Your email data should be in your $HOME directory, so, if you keep the same versions of softwares, they should be able to reuse data without noticing the distro has changed. But for a safer way, I guess the best is so backup your $HOME dir. Le 19.12.2012 00:54, salamandir a écrit : i am switc

switching distributions, but keeping KDE... how do i migrate my email?

2012-12-18 Thread salamandir
i am switching from kubuntu 12.04.1 to debian squeeze 2, but i'm keeping KDE, in the past, i have had considerable difficulty getting my email to migrate successfully when i upgrade, and i'm wondering if there is a "preferred" way to migrate/upgrade email that doesn't lose data in the process.

Analog, domain not given and IPv6

2012-12-18 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there In my Analog web server statistics I get a lot of 'domain not given'. According to the docs this is caused by hostnames without a dot. In the case of an IP address without a (matching) reverse lookup, the 'hostname' is an IP address. And in case of IPv6, the IP address doesn't contai

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 00:36, Michael Biebl wrote: > > $ dbus-send --print-reply \ > --system \ > --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower \ > /org/freedesktop/UPower \ > org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend thinko on my part: you want org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate, of co

Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Andrei POPESCU > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable? > > On Lu, 17 dec 12, 19:34:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> Read somewhere that updating/upgrading from W

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.12.2012 00:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. > Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to > understand how it works, but I think giving rights to some softwares is > its role. sudo is one option, the other is to

Re: pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Except using sudo, I know no solution... sadly. Maybe you can do something with policykit, too, I never tried to understand how it works, but I think giving rights to some softwares is its role. Le 19.12.2012 00:15, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit : Hi, What should be done to be able to execute pm-h

pm-hibernate as user

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, What should be done to be able to execute pm-hibernate as user? pm-utils is installed. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kaqtf2$m87$1...@g

Re: RAID 1 (mirroring) question

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Hartge
Bob Proulx wrote: > The Linus software raid also had the capability to use a block bitmap > to speed up resync after a crash because then it tracks which blocks > are dirty. > See the documentation on this mdadm command to configure an internal > bitmap to speed up a re-sync after an event such

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Dec 2012 at 15:13:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Here is what I focussed on when I started looking at the > > auto-install process: > > > > > The auto parameter is an alias for auto-install/enable and > > > setting it to true delays the locale and keyboard que

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > [I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] Things can get confusing! :-) > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > > I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that > > > > > screen never appears. > > Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getti

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2012 22:16, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 21:52 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I might be wrong on some points, because I am not an expert http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > You are preseeding language and keymap from the command line so auto(?) > or auto=true is not required because the first two questions concerned > get answers immediately on booting. Correct. Which is why in my case it is a little hard to observe experimentally

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 20:52:44 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > When I speak about i386 being old, I should say very old, because > between i386 and x86_64, there has been at least 3 generations: i486, > i586, i686. You use the i386 for itself and for all 3 of those - the installation

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
[I couldn't sort the attributions out when snipping. Sorry.] On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > I just double checked by running a text mode expert install - that > > > > screen never appears. Richard wrote this. I didn't understand what he was getting at first time

Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-18 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Dec 2012 at 22:24:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > I have those preseeds on the kernel command line through a PXE network > boot. > > vga=788 initrd=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz console-keymaps-at/keymap=us > locale=en_US interface=auto hostname=$name domain=$domain auto > url=http:

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 21:52 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I might be wrong on some points, because I am not an expert http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Require

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
As long as you have >= 2 GB RAM you should download AMD64 (otherwise i386) The choice is not related to the amount of RAM, but on processor's architecture and instructions set. Nowadays, all processors I know for computers are built with 64 bits architectures, and corresponding instructions

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 20:04 +, darkestkhan wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Daniel wrote: > > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? > As long as you have >= 2 GB RAM you should download AMD64 (otherwise i386) For Linux, but for the FreeBSD kernel th

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 14:16 -0500, Daniel wrote: > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? For Linux it's amd64 and if you should prefer 32-bit on a 64-bit machine, you can also use i386. http://www.debian.org/ports/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Daniel, Daniel wrote: > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? You probably want the amd64 version. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: [SOLVED]Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > There are a bunch of libraries that are at sid's level. I may have to > > reinstall wheezy: definitely an error on my part! You can usually try to downgrade packages, especially due to the freeze this shouldn’t be a problem (albeit not officially supported

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 20:04:37 darkestkhan wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Daniel wrote: > > hello > > > > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? > > > > Thank you > > > > Daniel > > As long as you have >= 2 GB RAM you should download AMD64 (otherw

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Thore
Am 18.12.2012 20:16, schrieb Daniel: hello Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? Thank you Danie What did you mean with version? distribution or 32/64 bit? your precessor has 64 bit architekture. You could use it. distribution: squeeze or wheezy -- To UNSU

Re: RAID 1 (mirroring) question

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
yudi v wrote: > I am looking at using Debian software RAID mirroring and would like > to know how it handles system crashes and disk failures. It handles it quite well. > My only experience with software RAID 1 is with windows 7 inbuilt > option. Whenever the system does not shutdown cleanly, up

Re: which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread darkestkhan
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Daniel wrote: > hello > > Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? > > Thank you > > Daniel > As long as you have >= 2 GB RAM you should download AMD64 (otherwise i386) -- darkestkhan -- Feel

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Loic J. Duros
On 12/18/2012 02:45 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Daniel Dalton wrote: But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently 5-6 hours (according to powertop) Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not b

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Daniel Dalton wrote: > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently > 5-6 hours (according to powertop) Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not be unusual. > Wouldn't device drivers be

Re: ssh fails (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Joel Roth wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > $ git pull > > OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 105f, you have 1000103f > > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly > > This error also occurs when I use ssh directly, to any > host. This reads to me that you have not updated your system, spec

which version of debian to download

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel
hello Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? Thank you Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50d0c12a.7040...@gm

Re: [SOLVED]Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb Selecting previously unselected package skype. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype: skype depends on libqtgui4 (

Re: Slow network performance with KVM

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Katynski, Bogdan wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > On Squeeze you would want to use a backported 3.2 kernel. It would be > > worthwhile to try it if you are suffering from this performance > > problem. Here are instructions: > > I installed the backported 3.2.0 kernel and forced vhost-net module lo

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Tom H wrote: > >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >>> What is a SIG? > >> > >> It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs > > > > Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds let alone Fedora ;) > > IIRC I came across it

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb Selecting previously unselected package skype. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype: skype depends on libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0); however:

Re: ssh fails (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2012 18:40, Joel Roth a écrit : On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:56:32PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Greetings $ git pull OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 105f, you have 1000103f fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly This error also occurs when I use ssh directly, to any host.

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
The plain-old window managers are sufficiently different from Windows and Apple that I feel comfortable stating that the developers are not interested in keeping up with the current desktop trends. That gives me high confidence that there won't be many major changes in the way those window man

Re: Debian squeeze GDM3 Problem

2012-12-18 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:30:32PM +0100, Houbey wrote: > Hello, i have this get this mail adress of Jonathan Wiltshire. I I > have tried some assistance on the internet to change the gdm3 > login-background. After a restart debian the new .svg picture is > just white. Or reverts back to standard.

ssh fails (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-18 Thread Joel Roth
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:56:32PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Greetings > > $ git pull > OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 105f, you have 1000103f > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly This error also occurs when I use ssh directly, to any host. > I encounter this problem (with

Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-18 Thread Gary Roach
On 12/16/2012 07:50 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/12/2012 8:02 PM, Mark Panen wrote: "The OP should be experienced with soldering multi-layer boards" really why should he be? Are all IT personal hardware fundies as well? I started late in the IT business with a totally different previous vocati

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 15:23:16 Rob Owens wrote: > It's not clear how long the Gnome folks will continue to support the > Gnome Classic session (which upstream Gnome refers to as Gnome Legacy). > Some people may decide that their own ideals no longer align with the > ideals of the Gnome develo

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb > Selecting previously unselected package skype. > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype: > skype depends on libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0); however: >Package libqtgui4

Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 15:40:54 Mark Allums wrote: > [1] at this moment wheezy *is* 'testing' and you can use either in > sources.list. They will start to differ only when wheezy is released > (becomes 'stable') at which point jenny will be 'testing'. > > 'Jessie'? That's what I thought. :-/

Re: Need detialed info on preseeding

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On 12/16/12 6:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> On the topic of pkgsel/include: >> >> Here is an example from my preseed configuration: >> >> d-i pkgsel/include string dnsutils less nvi openssh-server postfix >> rsync sudo >> >> All of those packages will be installed. Any dep

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Go Linux
--- On Tue, 12/18/12, Lucio Crusca wrote: > From: Lucio Crusca > Subject: but ubunt... (multimedia) > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 6:39 AM > > > Let alone why, I need a recent DVDStyler (2.x). For some > reason, mostly > philosophical, having DVDStyler

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:14:32 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hello Hugo, >This is on a brandnew wheezy install that I got the error. As Andrei says (and I checked at packages.debian), you've got a Sid package in there somehow. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of different versions: 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg --print-architecture amd64 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ #

RE: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Allums
[1] at this moment wheezy *is* 'testing' and you can use either in sources.list. They will start to differ only when wheezy is released (becomes 'stable') at which point jenny will be 'testing'. 'Jessie'? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 14:08:08, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: > > >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for > > >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. > > > > I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on t

Re: wheezy how-to

2012-12-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 04:21:47AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Can you recommend a good Wheezy HOWTO for users forcibly being > migrated from the Gnome environment of Etch, Lenny, or Squeeze? > > I dread having to learn all the details of how to configure and use > Wheezy once it becomes sta

Re: google-earth + multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Johan, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > I also tried and failed installing lsb-core:i386. lsb-core depends on a > bunch of packages providing binaries, like python and make, and, as far > as I know, multiarch does not allow co-installation of binaries, but > only libraries. You could build a ls

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 18:30:35, Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > >>The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for > >>documentation which you can contact at ...". > > > >What is a SIG? > > "Special Interest

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55:08PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? > > > > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu > > here. > > Agreed. The differ

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with > multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of > different versions: 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg --print-architecture amd64 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg --print-foreig

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:54:19 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hello Hugo, AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of different versions: I installed it here without issues. On

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 08:54:19, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy > with multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries > are of different versions: > > package-0:i386 1.2.49-1 cannot be configured because > libpng12-0:a

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:39:17AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Daniel Dalton: > > > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? > > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu > here. Good news. So now just to figure out how ubuntu is out

Re: Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:54:19 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hello Hugo, >AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with >multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of >different versions: I installed it here without issues. On wheezy, and the sam

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2012/12/18 Ralf Mardorf > On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 14:50 +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Debian is great but If you don't want to get deeper with it and your > > purpose is movie making... then you should give up with debian and > > switch to multimedia oriented distros, eg. AVLinux (is debian ba

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 13:39:27, Lucio Crusca wrote: > > No doubt I prefer Debian. There's a but. Debian pretends to be the universal > OS. Maybe it's true for everything, but multimedia. There have been a lot of problems, mostly due to patents, but in this particular case... > http://bugs.debian.

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 14:36:49 Brad Rogers wrote: > >I did, I'm afraid!  After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on > >acronymfinder and find out what it means.  Andrei knows this perfectly > > True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the > right meaning.  Possibly

Re: google-earth + multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Johan Grönqvist wrote: 2012-12-18 04:49, Hugo Vanwoerkom skrev: As an exercise in multiarch I tried installing google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb in according to http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#Multiarch. Has anybody actually accomplished that? What I ended up with is: dpkg: depen

Skype and Multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of different versions: package-0:i386 1.2.49-1 cannot be configured because libpng12-0:amd64 is at a different version (1.2.49-3) Hugo -- To UNSUB

Debian squeeze GDM3 Problem

2012-12-18 Thread Houbey
Hello, i have this get this mail adress of Jonathan Wiltshire. I I have tried some assistance on the internet to change the gdm3 login-background. After a restart debian the new .svg picture is just white. Or reverts back to standard. Maybe it is a bug or is wanted by debian way? I hope some

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:08:08 + Lisi Reisz wrote: Hello Lisi, >I did, I'm afraid! After all, it is easy enough to look SIG up on >acronymfinder and find out what it means. Andrei knows this perfectly True, but even within context, it's sometimes tricky pinpointing the right meaning. Poss

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 14:50 +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Debian is great but If you don't want to get deeper with it and your > purpose is movie making... then you should give up with debian and > switch to multimedia oriented distros, eg. AVLinux (is debian based > and far better than ubuntu).

Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 19:34:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Read somewhere that updating/upgrading from Wheezy Beta eventually to > Wheezy Stable using the "wheezy" named repos (not "testing" named > ones) has potential problems, and the best option is a clean install > of Wheezy Stable.   [citation n

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 12:12:01 Brad Rogers wrote: > >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for > >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. > > I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, > potentially.   :-) I did, I'm afraid! After

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> What is a SIG? >> >> It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SIGs > > Sorry. Term predates Linus Torvalds

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2012/12/18 Lucio Crusca > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > use another app... eg qdvdauthor or switch to the command line > > :D typical reply from the IT dept. > > qdvdauthor isn't in Debian either (but, even then, I still need DVD-Styler > for a few other reasons) and switching to the command line

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:15:55 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for >assuming everybody had the same same background as I. I didn't get that impression. But hey, it's not my rep that on the line, potentially. :-) -- Regards

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Lucio Crusca
Raffaele Morelli wrote: > use another app... eg qdvdauthor or switch to the command line :D typical reply from the IT dept. qdvdauthor isn't in Debian either (but, even then, I still need DVD-Styler for a few other reasons) and switching to the command line is not really a solution in this cas

Re: but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2012/12/18 Lucio Crusca > Hello, > > I came back to Debian (testing/unstable) since a good year now, before that > I had been using Ubuntu for about two years and yet before Debian since > 2003. > > No doubt I prefer Debian. There's a but. Debian pretends to be the > universal > OS. Maybe it's tr

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Tom H wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for documentation which you can contact at ...". What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group.

Re: Need detialed info on preseeding

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Here is an example from my preseed configuration: d-i pkgsel/include string dnsutils less nvi openssh-server postfix rsync sudo All of those packages will be installed. Any dependencies that they declare will be installed. The eff

but ubunt... (multimedia)

2012-12-18 Thread Lucio Crusca
Hello, I came back to Debian (testing/unstable) since a good year now, before that I had been using Ubuntu for about two years and yet before Debian since 2003. No doubt I prefer Debian. There's a but. Debian pretends to be the universal OS. Maybe it's true for everything, but multimedia. Let

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 16 dec 12, 06:53:26, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> The response I had hoped for was on the lines of "there's a SIG for >> documentation which you can contact at ...". > > What is a SIG? It's a Fedora-ism: special interest group. http

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, "Special Interest Group" Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. True. But I suspected that I I was being gently chided for assuming everybody had the same same background as I.

Re: wheezy freeze

2012-12-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 09:02:54 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > There are well known distributions in rolling release, like archlinux > or gentoo. Of course, they are not for basic users, but everything have > a cost, and the one for rolling release is to be able to know what you > are

RE: Slow network performance with KVM

2012-12-18 Thread Katynski, Bogdan
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Proulx [mailto:b...@proulx.com] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:15 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Slow network performance with KVM > > I forgot that this module is only available in later kernels! Sorry. > It does not appear in S

Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error

2012-12-18 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:21:45AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I am using happily github and bitbucket without any problem since > some months now, with Debian testing. So if you are not using > testing, maybe you could try to upgrade only git, ssh and their > stuff related to net

Re: wheezy freeze

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2012 10:38, Rene Engelhard a écrit : On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:02:54AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: _ The freeze started less than 4 months ago (I do not have the exact date), and I do not think things will be frozen for more ages... FWIW without any opinion enclosed

Re: Upgrading Wheezy Beta to Wheezy Stable?

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Read somewhere that updating/upgrading from Wheezy Beta eventually to Wheezy Stable using the "wheezy" named repos (not "testing" named ones) has potential problems, and the best option is a clean install of Wheezy Stable. True or false? I've read the Wheezy Beta install docs, and the upgrading

Re: wheezy freeze

2012-12-18 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:02:54AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > _ The freeze started less than 4 months ago (I do not have the exact > date), and I do not think things will be frozen for more ages... FWIW without any opinion enclosed herein: That is wrong. https://lists.debian.or

Re: Proofreading of Debian documentation - was [Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue]

2012-12-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:30:35 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >"Special Interest Group" >Is it an Americanism? It's a TLA, or Three Letter Acronym. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's becoming an ob

Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
I am using happily github and bitbucket without any problem since some months now, with Debian testing. So if you are not using testing, maybe you could try to upgrade only git, ssh and their stuff related to network to testing version, one by one. (look for apt-pinning on your favorite debian

Re: wheezy freeze

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 10:02:54, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > _ As far as I know, experimental/unstable are not frozen. Am I > wrong? If not, why don't you choose them? At this stage unstable should see only new packages (not in wheezy) or bug fixes targeted for wheezy. Versions not targeted

Re: google-earth + multiarch

2012-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 dec 12, 07:32:58, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > 2012-12-18 04:49, Hugo Vanwoerkom skrev: > >As an exercise in multiarch I tried installing > >google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb in according to > >http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#Multiarch. > > > >Has anybody actually accomplished th

Re: wheezy freeze

2012-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Ubuntu is not at all a rolling release, because, as far as I know, it does some stable versions, which last for 6 months before a new one spawn. You can have a definition of the term rolling release here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release There are well known distributions in rolli