Re: Holiday Project for my job

2011-11-05 Thread ZephyrQ
On 10/29/2011 05:28 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 05 sep 11, 14:45:16, ZephyrQ wrote: >> >> Again, thanks for all the advice...and I would appreciate any other >> wisdom y'all might throw my way...I ran into another snag where I wanted >> to remove some software but synaptic insists that it wi

Re: Preseeded installation

2011-11-05 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > what are good source of documents/tutorials on this preseeded > installation? http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apb.html This is a little bit dated now, it was written for Debian Sarge 3.1, but still a pretty good overview tutorial of it. http://www.debian-adminis

Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player

2011-11-05 Thread Chen Wei
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 04:47:33PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually > be made to connect to NPR. > > I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever > your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of get

Kdesud locking up, JMicron card reader not working, USB 3 Controller stops working after resuming, horizontal tearing on fullscreen

2011-11-05 Thread M.
Hello Camaleón, hello list, I had to search for this post on the interwebs, as I'm not subscribed. But finally a good soul answered me! Thanks, Camaleón! :-) On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:11:49 -0200, M. wrote: > I'm facing some problems with Debian Unstable that are really annoying. > I know how to r

Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player

2011-11-05 Thread Chen Wei
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 04:47:33PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually > be made to connect to NPR. > > I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever > your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of get

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 05 Nov 11:56 -0500, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: > You probably don't mean this when you say "slow...locked up", I meant exactly that because that's exactly the experience I had with GNOME3 shell. I never got to the point of typing *anything* since I couldn't get it to open an application.

Re: boot problems (I think)

2011-11-05 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, A system at a remote site cannot be reached via ssh and is not reacting to a ping after a reboot. This system has been rebooted in the past and had no problems booting. I will be going over there later this evening to find out what has gone wrong. The system is a HP server with iLo and a s

Re: special device does not exist

2011-11-05 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > I.e., my sdb7 is not in my system's device list. But the partition does > exist: Did you recently change the partition table on that device? That will sometimes cause the kernel to be out of sync with the device. You can trigger the Linux kernel to re-read the partition tables

Re: is there a tarsnap pkg avaialble for debian

2011-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 23/06/11 16:09, Harry Putnam wrote: > > >> >> Is there a source for a `tarsnap' pkg >> >> (http://www.tarsnap.com/index.html) >> >> that is accessible with `aptitude'? >> > > Not according to:- > https://www.tarsnap.com/download.html > "At the present time, pr

Re: Nano in squeeze: fill doesn't work

2011-11-05 Thread Eric d'Halibut
On 11/5/11, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: > unset nowrap Ah. Thank you! Strangely, just overnight too, they seem to have magically modified my copy of 'man nanorc' to include that dubious option! :-) -- No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am not a looney! Why should

special device does not exist

2011-11-05 Thread T o n g
Hi, I'm having a very weird problem. % mount /dev/sdb7 /mnt/tmp mount: special device /dev/sdb7 does not exist I.e., my sdb7 is not in my system's device list. But the partition does exist: $ fdisk -l /dev/sdb | grep sdb7 /dev/sdb7 15300 1784820474842 83 Linux And

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:39:07 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 04:44:06PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> To ensure what flash plugin your browser sees, you can: >> >> 1/ Open Iceape browser and type "about:plugins" > > This is how I found where the different versions of

boot problems (I think)

2011-11-05 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, A system at a remote site cannot be reached via ssh and is not reacting to a ping after a reboot. This system has been rebooted in the past and had no problems booting. I will be going over there later this evening to find out what has gone wrong. The system is a HP server with iLo and a stan

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 13:41, shiyao ma wrote: > I searched on the Net, and according to the Wiki of arch, I should first > install lm_sensors. Then, I ran sensors-detect. After doing that, I ran > sensors, and got the following output: > acpitz-virtual-0 > Adapter: Virtual device > temp1:   

Re: linux-headers with GCC 4.6 when

2011-11-05 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello! On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:20 PM, David Sastre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:39:17PM +0100, Artifex Maximus wrote: >> I have installed virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-ose-dkms. DKMS needs >> linux-headers which depends on gcc-4.5 even I have an already >> installed gcc and gcc-4.6. Is it

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 04:44:06PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:55:26 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 11:01:20AM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> You mean Iceape browser is not displaying images nor flash player > >> videos at all? For this problem, I

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Alan Chandler
On 05/11/11 09:06, Javier Barroso wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Walter Hurry wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: GNOME Shell is the defining technology of the GNOME 3 user experience. That's exactly the problem, and precisely

Re: How to remove / disable ttymon ?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:25:23 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: > My resources are occupied heavily with ttymon. Through google, I have > found it is a port monitoring tool. How can I remove / disable it ? > > "apt-cache search ttymon" returns null I can't locate such a package in Debian repos but Google d

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Nate Bargmann, 5.11.2011: > > On a whim I installed GNOME 3 (shell and fallback) recently and gave it > a spin. Until I moved my xorg.conf out of the way both modes would fail > upon startup. When I did get them running the only possible > configuration for the second monitor is as an extended

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:55:26 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 11:01:20AM +, Camaleón wrote: >> You mean Iceape browser is not displaying images nor flash player >> videos at all? For this problem, I would take a look into this KB: >> >> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Image

Re: Menu editing on Gnome 3

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:17:24 +, Alan Chandler wrote: > On 05/11/11 15:44, Camaleón wrote: >> Make a full search for all of your ".desktop" files, for instance (as >> root): > > I found them > > ~/.local/share/applications > > there was an original kdiff3.desktop (from when it was installed

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:43:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >>> I've been logging on to verizonwireless periodically for a good while >>> and never saw this kind of pull down. Only this new page seems to be >>> a heavy hitter. >> >> You can also try to load the same site with a

Re: Can I insall from xp partition?

2011-11-05 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Selim T. Erdogan, 5.11.2011: > (putting reply back on the list) > > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:45:18AM -0700, rose perry wrote: > > Is there a way to install from a xp partition with out haveing to use > > > > a cd? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/msg00133.html had a link to instru

Re: Menu editing on Gnome 3

2011-11-05 Thread Alan Chandler
On 05/11/11 15:44, Camaleón wrote: El 2011-11-05 a las 14:54 +, Alan Chandler escribió: (sending back to the list) Apologies - finger trouble Make a full search for all of your ".desktop" files, for instance (as root): I found them ~/.local/share/applications there was an original kdi

Re: Can I insall from xp partition?

2011-11-05 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
(putting reply back on the list) On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:45:18AM -0700, rose perry wrote: > Is there a way to install from a xp partition with out haveing to use > > a cd? > > > > - Original Message - > From: Selim T. Erdogan > To: rose perry ; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc:

Re: Can I insall from xp partition?

2011-11-05 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
(putting reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 01:53:38PM -0700, rose perry wrote: > It was an app running that made it slwo. I got 1,25 gigs of ram and a 2 gig > cpu. > that for the link. > > > > > From: Selim T. Erdogan > To: rose perry ; debian-us

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:11:33 +0800, shiyao ma wrote: (please, keep your message at the bottom and avoid html) > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:14:06 +0800, shiyao ma wrote: >> >> > Oh, it is such a coincidence. >> > My nick name is Introom, and the

Re: Menu editing on Gnome 3

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-11-05 a las 14:54 +, Alan Chandler escribió: (sending back to the list) > On 03/11/11 15:11, Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:58:49 +, Alan Chandler wrote: >> >>> On 01/11/11 10:37, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:50:21 +, Alan Chandler wrote: > A

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 11:01:20AM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:33:28 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > My system is squeeze. For years I have used the iceape mail which > > automaticaly transfers url links in received emails to the iceape > > browser. Convenient but the bro

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: >> I've been logging on to verizonwireless periodically for a good while >> and never saw this kind of pull down. Only this new page seems to be a >> heavy hitter. > > You can also try to load the same site with another browser and see if > you experience a difference with it :

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 09:44:41AM +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > Hi, > > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_in_messages_do_not_appear > may be this page will hell you > I checked out this reference. The iceape preference settings are the recommended settings. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: gnome3 now in wheezy?

2011-11-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:51:55 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:49:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I was under the mistaken impression that wheezy still had a usab

Re: gnome3 now in wheezy?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:51:55 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> >>> Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:49:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > I was under the mistaken impression that wheezy still had a

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread shiyao ma
I tried echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile and the fan began to stop from time to time, however, it comes along with a terrific bad side: see the result of debug: root@Eddie-Laptop:/home/eddie# cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info default engine clock: 675000 kHz current eng

Re: How to remove / disable ttymon ?

2011-11-05 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 5. November 2011 schrieb J. Bakshi: > Dear list, > > My resources are occupied heavily with ttymon. Through google, I have found > it is a port monitoring tool. How can I remove / disable it ? > > "apt-cache search ttymon" returns null > > Thanks Hi J. Bakshi, found this, might be

Re: gnome3 now in wheezy?

2011-11-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:49:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I was under the mistaken impression that wheezy still had a usable gnome, as opposed to sid which has "upgraded" to gnome3. Please, please...

How to remove / disable ttymon ?

2011-11-05 Thread J. Bakshi
Dear list, My resources are occupied heavily with ttymon. Through google, I have found it is a port monitoring tool. How can I remove / disable it ? "apt-cache search ttymon" returns null Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

question: building a live-dvd

2011-11-05 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi list, I want to learn, how to build a live-system of debian. I already read some manuals, but still I have a question for my specual needs. Which is the better solution for my purposes? Bootcdwrite? Live-builder? My special wishes: 1. My source is an already installed and configured debian

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:14:06 +0800, shiyao ma wrote: > Oh, it is such a coincidence. > My nick name is Introom, and the post : > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117784 was posted by me month > ago. And what was the result of the suggested tips? Did you try any of them? Because they're

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:58:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Camaleón writes: >> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/index.html >> >>> As soon as I kill the tab or some other way, stop loading that page. >>> It all goes away so clearly somehow the Xorg resource pull is due to >>> firefox at that pag

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread shiyao ma
Oh, it is such a coincidence. My nick name is Introom, and the post : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117784 was posted by me month ago. Camaleón, how did you find that? 2011/11/5 shiyao ma > You guys are nice guys. But I have one more question, what's the proper > way to reply to th

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread shiyao ma
You guys are nice guys. But I have one more question, what's the proper way to reply to this subject? I am now using gmail with browser, should I click the reply to all? If I click reply to all, then the receiver will be : To: x...@xxx.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org seems a little strange 2

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > > Unless you meant: > > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/index.html > >> As soon as I kill the tab or some other way, stop loading that page. It >> all goes away so clearly somehow the Xorg resource pull is due to >> firefox at that page. > > The page is plenty of javascript

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 05 Nov 07:18 -0500, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:06:31 +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: > > So, why people is hungry with it ? > > (...) > > I think you wanted to say "angry", like the famous birds ;-) > > And yes, I feel more than angry when someone (or something) do not all

Re: linux-headers with GCC 4.6 when

2011-11-05 Thread David Sastre
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:39:17PM +0100, Artifex Maximus wrote: > Hello! > > I have installed virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-ose-dkms. DKMS needs > linux-headers which depends on gcc-4.5 even I have an already > installed gcc and gcc-4.6. Is it intentional or not? Is gcc 4.6 cannot > compile kerne

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Maybe you could try to play with /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method (look for "KMS Power Management Options" and "dynpm" on http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature). Also, did you try the powertop command (from the powertop package) for power management informations and adjustments? -- Best reg

Re: Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:41:58 +0800, shiyao ma wrote: (please, keep the posts that share the same subject in the same thread) > I searched on the Net, and according to the Wiki of arch, I should first > install lm_sensors. Then, I ran sensors-detect. After doing that, I ran > sensors, and got the

linux-headers with GCC 4.6 when

2011-11-05 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello! I have installed virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-ose-dkms. DKMS needs linux-headers which depends on gcc-4.5 even I have an already installed gcc and gcc-4.6. Is it intentional or not? Is gcc 4.6 cannot compile kernel? I have enough disk space yet but gcc twice is unnecessary and I just wonde

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:06:31 +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: (good "Subject" election :-P) > Currently I'm using (as second main desktop, first is awesome ;) ) > gnome3. I can read a lot of criticism about it > > What don't you like ing GNOME 3 - GNOME - Shell? > > I only see two things, but peopl

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:55:30 +0100, Javier Barroso wrote: (...) >> PD: I think it run fine in relatively old computers (but maybe that is >> another issue, I don't know) > PD2: Ok, I see you need 3d accel [1], not sense to me. > > [1] > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/FAQ#What_led_to_the_decisi

Re: sun-Java6-plugin w/o Iceweasel?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:50:38 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I have sun-Java6-plugin installed, as well as mozilla-mplayer. Both > seem to depend on Iceweasel, or Firefox. I have Firefox installed from > the mozilla website and do not want Iceweasel. Iceweasel, however, was > installed since aptit

Hi, how to control the speed of fan?

2011-11-05 Thread shiyao ma
I searched on the Net, and according to the Wiki of arch, I should first install lm_sensors. Then, I ran sensors-detect. After doing that, I ran sensors, and got the following output: acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+26.8°C (crit = +88.0°C) radeon-pci-0100 Adapter: PCI adap

Re: Nano in squeeze: fill doesn't work

2011-11-05 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Eric d'Halibut, 4.11.2011: > I just dist-upgraded from lenny to squeeze and find that nano, my > editor-of-choice for use with mutt, no longer honors its .nanorc file: > > set autoindent > set cut > set fill 68 > set multibuffer > set smarthome > set speller /usr/bin/ispell > set tabsize 4 > set

Re: wheezy konqueror - cannot download Adobe Flashplayer

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:12:57 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Walter Hurry writes: > >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . copy it into >> the plugins directory (/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins in my case) and set >> the permissions appropriately. > > Anyone; where is the appropria

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:01:34 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Running updated wheezy > > Does any other firefox user see this phenomena: > > Running Firefox 7.0.1 When I navigate to this specific page I see really > massive resources being pulled. It is listed it `top' as being Xorg, > but it only

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:33:28 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > My system is squeeze. For years I have used the iceape mail which > automaticaly transfers url links in received emails to the iceape > browser. Convenient but the browser is not alway able to display images > in the linked url sites,

Re: gnome3 now in wheezy?

2011-11-05 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:49:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> >>> I was under the mistaken impression that wheezy still had a usable >>> gnome, as opposed to sid which has "upgraded" to gnome3. >> >> Please, please..

Re: belkin d90 router web address

2011-11-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
Both actually. It turns out belkin d90 routers aren't Linux compatible. I had to use windows7 with microsoft screen narrator turned on to even talk to it. I used internet explorer to contact it and was finally allowed to enter a password then powered off the router and restarted it. I'm no

Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Javier Barroso
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Javier Barroso wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Walter Hurry wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> GNOME Shell is the defining technology of the GNOME 3 user experience. >>> >>> That's

Re: Partition problems.

2011-11-05 Thread Johan Verbelen
Hello, Thanks for your reaction. The NAS in question is a QNAP TS-109, a one bay model. From what I could gather the firmware is stored in flash and the disk is used to it's maximum for data storage. This is the layout I see when doing "cat /proc/partitions": 120060864 sdb 530113 sdb1 53014

[OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?

2011-11-05 Thread Javier Barroso
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Walter Hurry wrote: >> >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> >>> GNOME Shell is the defining technology of the GNOME 3 user experience. >> >> That's exactly the problem, and precisely why I have moved on to LXDE.

Re: Alternatives to Iceape Display Problems?

2011-11-05 Thread didier gaumet
Hi, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_in_messages_do_not_appear may be this page will hell you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2005094441.68f83..

sun-Java6-plugin w/o Iceweasel?

2011-11-05 Thread Marc Shapiro
I have sun-Java6-plugin installed, as well as mozilla-mplayer. Both seem to depend on Iceweasel, or Firefox. I have Firefox installed from the mozilla website and do not want Iceweasel. Iceweasel, however, was installed since aptitude knew nothing about the manual installation of Firefox. W