Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 8:34 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:06:33PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > > > > >> Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is > >> painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you

Re: [OT] Stop Ahead (was top posting)

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:34:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:06:33PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > > > > >> Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is > >> painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you > >

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:43:37AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > All I am trying to point out is for a normal user ( ie somebody who > > is subscribed to the list), when a thread starts, you read them in > > date/time order as them come in, why seems illogic

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:06:33PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > >> Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is >> painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you >> pass over the first word in the statement before the second. >> > > Well put! :-)

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 6:43 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe (maybe wrongly ) that this mailing list is a non > > top-posting list, I try and conform. > > You're correct. List policy prefers "snip irrelevancies and bottom > post." Where are you quoting from? If that's on l.d.o

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Julian De Marchi
Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you pass over the first word in the statement before the second. Well put! :-) -- Cheers, Julian De Marchi -- OpenNIC user - http://www.opennicproject.org/ -

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 4:58 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:10:00AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Too bad the whole world doesn't use your mail reader. The whole world > > should be forced to use the same mail reader, and the same office suit > > and web browser whil

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 1:57 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > > > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > > > posting is in something technica

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 1:03 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should read this: > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html I prefer http://learn.to/quote for that; the URL you mention only suggests what is wrong, but leaves what is right wide open to interpretation. -- Paul John

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 14, 2008 8:21 AM, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to > create weekly digests correctly) Yes, but not for that reason. People migh

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:44:57AM +0900, Peter F Bradshaw wrote: > Ok. Fine. Until you guys grow up this list is going to /dev/null. If people don't stop complaining and leaving this list, then I'm going to complain and leave! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread David
Peter F Bradshaw wrote: Ok. Fine. Until you guys grow up this list is going to /dev/null. On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create week

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Peter F Bradshaw
Ok. Fine. Until you guys grow up this list is going to /dev/null. On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to > create weekly digests correctly)

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread s. keeling
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > All I am trying to point out is for a normal user ( ie somebody who > is subscribed to the list), when a thread starts, you read them in > date/time order as them come in, why seems illogical to have to > scroll through stuff that you have just read. The ex

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread s. keeling
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all > the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a > thread from begging to end, then all i should have to do is read > the top posts, but if they bottom posted, then as the

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread s. keeling
Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:00:28PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > > In fact, it's a social convention, a matter of etiquette. The practice > > > varies, and some lists work the other way, but on this a

Re: My favorite radio stations

2008-01-14 Thread David Fox
On 1/14/08, Jamiil Abduqadir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.am740.ca/ > http://www.studio92.com/musica/audioenvivo/ > http://www.1010wins.com/pages/272297.php All three seem to have one thing in common - they launch adobe flash player 9 in a window and then play the audio from there. So

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread s. keeling
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > > > varies, and some lists work the other way, but on this and many lists > > the convention is to top post, trim heartily, try to get the attributions If I read him correctly, he meant to say "is

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 18:58, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:25:14PM -0800, Raquel wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:52:04 +1100 >> Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all >>> th

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 17:10, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 15/01/2008, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all the threaded >> emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a thread from begging

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 16:52, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:13:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebana

Re: [OT] Re: Burn CD

2008-01-14 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 01/13/08 14:09, s. keeling wrote: > > > > This is a waste of time. > > Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader > doesn't thread? I thought that was just yet another of his quirky habits. It explains why he loses attributions to

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Wayne Topa
Alex Samad([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > IMHO, trying to argue this point based on "rational" or objective > > reasoning, that one way is truly, obviously, and naturally "better" > > than another, is fraught with hazar

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:40:18AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 15/01/2008, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am using mutt, but I believe most mail readers thread emails for you. [snip] > > No, you haven't offended. But you should have dug through the archive I didn't believe i comme

Etch ipw2200 dropping packets

2008-01-14 Thread Bill Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anybody had issues with the default kernel ipw2200 drivers that come with Etch dropping packets? Pinging different sites show a 20%-50% packet loss over different WiFi networks. Using a wired connection on the same Internet gateway show 0% packet l

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 15/01/2008, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am using mutt, but I believe most mail readers thread emails for you. Actually, mutt is a pretty decent mail reader! > All I am trying to point out is for a normal user ( ie somebody who is > subscribed to the list), when a thread starts, y

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:17:42PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:00:28PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > > In fact, it's a social convention, a matter of etiquette. The practice > > > varies, and some lists work t

Re: Sound problem on Lenny PPC: fixed

2008-01-14 Thread J.T. Chittleborough
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:15:19 pm Florian Kulzer wrote: > modprobe snd_pcm_oss > If that works then you can add snd_pcm_oss to /etc/modules to make sure > that it is loaded at every boot. Thanks very much. Between this and a similar suggestion I stumbled across, on the Fedora forums of all places,

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:00:28PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > In fact, it's a social convention, a matter of etiquette. The practice > > varies, and some lists work the other way, but on this and many lists > > the convention is to to

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:49:52PM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:52:59AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:13:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Wayne Topa
Raquel([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:52:04 +1100 > Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all > > the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow > > a thread from begging t

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:25:14PM -0800, Raquel wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:52:04 +1100 > Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all > > the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow > > a thread from beggi

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:10:00AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 15/01/2008, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all the > > threaded > > emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a thread from begging > > to > > end,

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:52:59AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:13:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > > >>

Re: flock, fcntl, lockf?

2008-01-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:17:53 -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:34:27PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> What's the right way these days to lock a file (or possibly a part of a >> file) to prevent damage from simultaneous writing? > > My impression is that file locking is based on

Re: flock, fcntl, lockf?

2008-01-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:57:12 -0600, Michael Shuler wrote: > On 01/14/2008 09:34 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> What's the right way these days to lock a file (or possibly a part of a >> file) to prevent damage from simultaneous writing? > > I suppose the answer could be, "depends on what you want to

Compiz: Blacklisted PCIID '8086:29a2' found

2008-01-14 Thread Magnus Therning
I had shiny, bling on my desktop until a recent update of compiz-fusion packages (I get them from http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/). Now I'm greeted by the following when running compiz-manager: Checking for Xgl: not present. Blacklisted PCIID '8086:29a2' fo

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Raquel
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:52:04 +1100 Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all > the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow > a thread from begging to end, then all i should have to do is read > the top posts, but

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 15/01/2008, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all the threaded > emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a thread from begging to > end, then all i should have to do is read the top posts, but if they bottom > poste

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-14 Thread David
Mike Bird wrote: On Mon January 14 2008 13:54:21 David wrote: Sorry for butting in, but assuming this is the Lenovo T61, what do you think of it? It's one of a number I'm considering at the moment. Did you get the pre-installed SUSE option or do you have Debian installed, and if so, any con

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 14 2008 13:54:21 David wrote: > > Lenny installer had no problem shrinking the Vista partition and > > setting up grub dual boot - actually triple boot on the T61 if you > > keep the diag partition (recommended). > > Sorry for butting in, but assuming this is the Lenovo T61, what do

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:13:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > >>> Sorry for offto

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:28:53PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/14/08 16:07, David wrote: > > Alex Samad wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>> Hash: SHA1 > >>>

Re: OT: dying disk - data recovery recommendations

2008-01-14 Thread KS
Dominique Dumont wrote: > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Find a way to attach that drive to a functional system. One way would >> be to use a 2.5" portable USB enclosure. > > No. from my experience USB will hang if the drive hit a wrong sector. > I had inserted the disk i

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 16:07, David wrote: > Alex Samad wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for off

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread David
Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to h

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: >>> Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top >>> posting is in som

Re: Trusted computing [WAS new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-14 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Hal Finney wrote: I am actively involved with some open-source TPM projects and see this technology as having tremendous potential. It pains me to see so much uninformed FUD being cast about whenever the topic comes up. We're a twitchy bunch, aren't we? I remember

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-14 Thread David
Mike Bird wrote: Lenny installer had no problem shrinking the Vista partition and setting up grub dual boot - actually triple boot on the T61 if you keep the diag partition (recommended). Sorry for butting in, but assuming this is the Lenovo T61, what do you think of it? It's one of a numb

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-14 Thread Jimmy Wu
On Jan 14, 2008 2:26 PM, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon January 14 2008 03:47:32 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:51:21PM -0500, Jimmy Wu wrote: > > > am not a big gamer. The only reason I would have Windows is because > > > there might be unforeseeable circumst

Re: Transparent proxy - forwarding does not work

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 05:26:17PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > >I'm trying to setup a transparent caching proxy with Squid. I've > installed Squid, configured it, in particular using the line > http_port 3128 transparent > >The proxy is working fine. If I specify the proxy manuall

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help fo

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 14/01/2008, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to > create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? > Thanks > You sho

Re: Movies, household network and 54g limits... (maybe...)

2008-01-14 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 14-jan-2008, at 10:33, johnny wrote: - Only one doubt: in a wireless network, if the router and the nics are N except one G card, I'd expect the last one drag all back (my usual idea about CSMA/CD signal-caching collisions: MAC level saturation), am I right? That's right. I'm by no means a

Re: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61

2008-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 14 2008 03:47:32 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:51:21PM -0500, Jimmy Wu wrote: > > am not a big gamer. The only reason I would have Windows is because > > there might be unforeseeable circumstances when I may run into Windows > > only software. I am sure if I n

Re: My favorite radio stations

2008-01-14 Thread Peter Smerdon
Peter Smerdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jamiil Abduqadir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On my windows xp I listen to this radio stations, but for some reason, >> debian, laterst and stable version, does not play any music whe I log ing >> using iceweasel or any of the other browser include

Re: My favorite radio stations

2008-01-14 Thread César
if you don't listen any music or radio in your Debian check this software: dpkg -l|grep alsa if have not any software list install 'alsa-base' apt-get install alsa-base then as root execute from console this alsaconf I can listen your list radio http://www.am740.ca/ -> optimized for Explorer

Re: My favorite radio stations

2008-01-14 Thread Peter Smerdon
"Jamiil Abduqadir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On my windows xp I listen to this radio stations, but for some reason, > debian, laterst and stable version, does not play any music whe I log ing > using iceweasel or any of the other browser included in debian. Can any one > pls, tell if there is

Transparent proxy - forwarding does not work

2008-01-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
I'm trying to setup a transparent caching proxy with Squid. I've installed Squid, configured it, in particular using the line http_port 3128 transparent The proxy is working fine. If I specify the proxy manually, I can see it being used from access.log, and note the results of caching.

Re: how to change /media/disk to /media/usbdisk

2008-01-14 Thread Bernard Fay
Thanks Brian for your reply, But my next question now is : Right click in what? Bernard On Jan 14, 2008 1:57 PM, Brian McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 14-Jan-08, at 12:56 PM, Bernard Fay wrote: > > When I insert a USB stick it is auto

Corrupted Gnome terminal ( reposted from debian-amd64)

2008-01-14 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, all I screwed up my Gnome Terminal setup some how... on my workstation desktop. My system: Debian "Lenny" Kernel: 2.6.22-3-amd64 Video: Nvidia 8600 GT Video Drv. NVIDIA 169.07 My Problems: Gnome terminal has unreadable fonts..TOO small. The terminal will not close, when clicking on X, and c

My favorite radio stations

2008-01-14 Thread Jamiil Abduqadir
On my windows xp I listen to this radio stations, but for some reason, debian, laterst and stable version, does not play any music whe I log ing using iceweasel or any of the other browser included in debian. Can any one pls, tell if there is something else I need to install to have my favorite rad

Re: How to get hardware info

2008-01-14 Thread joseph lockhart
--- abdelkader belahcene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I want to know the name of my network card, it is > detected by the > system, I just want name of the driver used and > other info? > > Is there a program which gives the info of hardware? > ( included network card) > thanks bela > har

Re: No volume in my Etch box!

2008-01-14 Thread Max Hyre
Rodolfo Medina wrote: . When I right-click, the following message appears: --- Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory) -

[solved?] No volume in my Etch box!

2008-01-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On my laptop I installed x-window-system-core and gnome-core and the volume > control small icon top right on Gnome desktop looks all right. Instead, on > my desktop PC the same icon is not active, and when I left-click it the > following message appea

Re: playing a midi

2008-01-14 Thread joseph lockhart
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Folk, > > timidity is installed. Yet when iceweasel opens > http://www.contemplator.com/ and when VLC opens > a local midi file, there is silence. > > Is there a way for VLC to recognize and play a > midi? > > How should iceweasel play a midi? iceweasel> > Ed

how to change /media/disk to /media/usbdisk

2008-01-14 Thread Bernard Fay
Hello, I use Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon with Gnome. When I insert a USB stick it is automatically mounted on /media/disk. I need to have it mounted as /media/usbdisk. How can I change this behavior? As far as I know gnome-volume-manager is responsible to mount it but I can't find a relation to /media/di

Re: packages broken

2008-01-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 17:51:29 -0500, Zach wrote: > Florian wrote: [...] > >I saw that you filed a bug report (#460532). There seem to be two > >related older reports (#406709, #396439). In one case the submitter > >states in a follow-up that a corrupted .desktop file was to blame, but > >the g

ip forwarding; was Re: /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/ppp/resolv.conf, dhcp3-server and dnsmasq

2008-01-14 Thread peasthope
Doug & others, dat> DNS and IP forwarding are two separate issues. OK; with ipmasq installed, a Debian client communicates through the router system just as if directly connected. One more small problem solved. Thanks. dat> You need to enable IP forwarding as well as: see /etc/sysctl.con

Re: segmentation fault but why?

2008-01-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 13:39:12 -0500, chris dunn wrote: > Running scanimage -L as root (su) yields the correct answer and identifies my > scanner. > > Running scanimage -L as user yields "Segmentation fault" only. > > Does anyone have a suggestion as to why this might be, and how I can identif

Re: ifconfig don't list interfaces

2008-01-14 Thread César
try use software 'lshw', may be if you see more detail information about the hardware you can fixed the software error bye ___ http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html http://cronopios.net/Traducciones/troll

Re: .bash_profile and .bashrc not executing

2008-01-14 Thread Bob McGowan
John Salmon wrote: Martin Marcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 12 January 2008 20:50 John Salmon wrote: I'm a new user to Debian Linux. I have the latest version loaded on a dedicated PC with all the default settings. I have added a ~/bin directory to my s

Re: flock, fcntl, lockf?

2008-01-14 Thread Ken Irving
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:34:27PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > What's the right way these days to lock a file (or possibly a part of a > file) to prevent damage from simultaneous writing? My impression is that file locking is based on all participants following the same convention, whatever it is

Re: ifconfig don't list interfaces

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
> 2008/1/13, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Osamu gave a suggestion about how to get more useable output by changing the language to english. This would make it easier for this list to help. He(she?) also asked a couple of relevant questions that could point to a solution to the problem On Sun,

Re: links in icedove/thunderbird stopped working

2008-01-14 Thread Joe
Reid Priedhorsky wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:40:11 +0100, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/08 00:18, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I run testing - I read email in icedove/thunderbird and browse the web with iceweasel/firefox. Lately (past few days) links have stopped working in iced

Re: [OT]FF beta2: not so good...

2008-01-14 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Jan 14, 2008 4:40 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > > Hello Hugo, > > > > Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom: > >> Hi, > >> > >> With FF beta2 my use of FF instead of Iceweasel ends. > > > > You may want to try beta3 then. > > > > > > I could. Part of the probl

named server question

2008-01-14 Thread chloe K
Hi all What is the rescurive client? where can I add it in the bind named.conf or named.conf.option in debian? thank you - Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to > create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Marsh
On Jan 14, 2008 11:21 AM, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top > posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to > create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? The 510

Re: NetworkManager and XFCE

2008-01-14 Thread Peter Smerdon
"Eduardo B. V. Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I would like to know if there is any NetworkManager frontend to > the XFCE environment. Or if there is any software that I could use > instead. > > Thanks in advance. You need to install the xfce4-xfapplet-plugin: Description: Gnome apple

Re: capacitor plague; was Re: Debian on IBM NetVista Type 6578-RAU

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:33:01PM -0500, KS wrote: > Henry Luciano wrote: > > > > *sigh*, multiple times. The hardest thing is removing the old caps and > > desoldering the holes, but all in all it's not that bad. Keep the iron > > hot enough to melt the solder but not hot enough to damage the

[OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich
Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

No volume in my Etch box!

2008-01-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On my laptop I installed x-window-system-core and gnome-core and the volume control small icon top right on Gnome desktop looks all right. Instead, on my desktop PC the same icon is not active, and when I left-click it the following message appears: ---

Re: A problem with package dependences

2008-01-14 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 03:54:11PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I want to install the auctex package, and Etch won't do it before installing >> the emacs21 and related packages: >> >> emacs21 emacs21-bin-common emacs21-common emacsen-common gs-common gs-gpl >> gsfonts preview-latex-style >> >

Re: How to get hardware info

2008-01-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:33:25AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > I want to know the name of my network card, it is detected by the > system, I just want name of the driver used and other info? > > Is there a program which gives the info of hardware? ( included network card) > thanks bela d

Re: NetworkManager and XFCE for wireless support

2008-01-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Don't top post and keep replies to the list. I've reorganized your post. On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:19:51AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 07:13:35PM -0800, Eduardo B. V. Pereira wrote: > > > I would like to know i

Re: flock, fcntl, lockf?

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Shuler
On 01/14/2008 09:34 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: What's the right way these days to lock a file (or possibly a part of a file) to prevent damage from simultaneous writing? I suppose the answer could be, "depends on what you want to do.." I think that flock() does not work on NFS mounts, if that is

flock, fcntl, lockf?

2008-01-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
What's the right way these days to lock a file (or possibly a part of a file) to prevent damage from simultaneous writing? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread Sebastian Bauer
Hi! Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 14:17:44 +0100, Sebastian Bauer wrote: > > haven't found any place where I can download older testing packages. So > > my > > question is, is there a place, where I can download older packages such as > > the > > mentioned v

Re: lynx configuration

2008-01-14 Thread Thomas Dickey
hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just installed lynx. I am a vim user and I like to use vim key > map on lynx and use the same terminal background color (black) in lynx > (lynx uses gray background by default) when I start the lynx. It's set in the lynx.lss file (see the comment at the top o

Re: Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 14:17:44 +0100, Sebastian Bauer wrote: > Hello, > > Some days ago, I updated the libc package to version 2.7. The system is a > virtual server (i386). Since I've performed the updating the system is broken. > As I figured out by browsing through the web the server uses a ke

Re: Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread Sebastian Bauer
Hi! steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > maybe this is what you are looling for (tar.gz_formaat): > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/ Thanks for the link. But these seem to be source files. Because the system is totally broken, I doubt that I can compile it. Is there a place, where binary packages ca

Re: Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 14, 2008 8:17 AM, Sebastian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some days ago, I updated the libc package to version 2.7. The system is a > virtual server (i386). Since I've performed the updating the system is > broken. > As I figured out by browsing through the web the server uses a kernel

Re: Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread steef
Sebastian Bauer wrote: Hello, Some days ago, I updated the libc package to version 2.7. The system is a virtual server (i386). Since I've performed the updating the system is broken. As I figured out by browsing through the web the server uses a kernel which conflicts with the newer glibc packag

Getting older debian packages

2008-01-14 Thread Sebastian Bauer
Hello, Some days ago, I updated the libc package to version 2.7. The system is a virtual server (i386). Since I've performed the updating the system is broken. As I figured out by browsing through the web the server uses a kernel which conflicts with the newer glibc packages. Now, because I can't

Re: find the blocksize of a FS

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 06:55, Martin Marcher wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 01/13/08 06:37, Martin Marcher wrote: >>> On Saturday 12 January 2008 23:38 Jan C. Nordholz wrote: >>> hmm looks like a starting point, I'm trying to get to that info with >>> python,

Re: Extended partition resized during installation

2008-01-14 Thread Ulrich Schweitzer
On Monday 14 January 2008 12:09:30 Osamu Aoki wrote: > I do not know the answer but it should be one of the udeb package for > installer. > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller Thank you very much. This page led me to another page which told me that the Debian installer uses parted for part

Re: find the blocksize of a FS

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Marcher
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/13/08 06:37, Martin Marcher wrote: >> On Saturday 12 January 2008 23:38 Jan C. Nordholz wrote: >> hmm looks like a starting point, I'm trying to get to that info with >> python, if all else fails I think the python ctypes module should be able >> to get that info thru the

Re: [OT]FF beta2: not so good...

2008-01-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Hello Hugo, Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom: Hi, With FF beta2 my use of FF instead of Iceweasel ends. You may want to try beta3 then. I could. Part of the problem is my setup: I have HOME on a separate partition, so beta's can mess up a working setup. Hugo -- T

Re: old-style ipw3945 module on latest kernel?

2008-01-14 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Jan 2008, Александър Л. Димитров wrote: > Hello Anthony, > > Quoth Anthony Campbell: > > I know the latest kernel on sid (2.6.23-1) is supposed to use > > firmware-iwlwifi because support for Intel Wireless 3945 is built into > > the kernel. This doesn't work on my Thinkpad Z61M so I have to

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