Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] >>> be, I've decided to unsubscribe. >> Well, goodbye (if you ever see this John) > > There's always the archives at lists.debian.org if he's curious. I > suspect he'll be happier at *buntu.

Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-01 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and software will not get into it any more. So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etch or to switch to the next testing?

Re: Strange X phenomen since upgrade to X-org

2007-04-01 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
John W. Foster wrote: > I recently upgraded a production system from sarge to etch and for the > most part there were no real surprises. [ Congrats to the developers] I > did run into a thorny problem that I am unable to figure out. When I > switch from the xserver to the console screen (ctrl-alt

Re: Strange X phenomen since upgrade to X-org

2007-04-01 Thread John W. Foster
On Sunday 01 April 2007 11:35, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "John W. Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > restarting the xserver. Due to my lack of experience with xorg I need > > a little help. Thanks!!! > > The only general option I recall (though I don't know if it applies to > switching to console

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 20:59, Seth Goodman wrote: [snip] > trust. The more signatures on your public key, the more likely it is > that a random third party knows either someone who signed your key, or > knows someone who knows someone who signed your key, etc.

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:41:40PM EDT, Mark Grieveson wrote: > > > I did manage to get this working with a former linux kernel image of > > > Etch, but I've had no luck with the more recent kernel image of > > > Etch. > > > Would that be 2.4.27? > > I got direct rendering, with the aforement

Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-04-01 Thread Wayne Topa
Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Wayne Topa wrote: > > > >Last try > > > >1. cd /usr/src/linux > >less .config > > > >Post the section starting with > ># > ># Power management options (ACPI, APM) > ># > > > > > > # > # Power management options (ACPI, APM) > # > CONFIG

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
> > I did manage to get this working with a former linux kernel image of > > Etch, but I've had no luck with the more recent kernel image of > > Etch. > Would that be 2.4.27? I got direct rendering, with the aforementioned driver, running on 2.6.16-2. I currently have 2.6.18-4, and for some

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:16:10PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:32:19PM EDT, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > Michael Pobega writes: > > > > Is it a bad practice to verif

Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-04-01 Thread Nick Lidakis
Wayne Topa wrote: Last try 1. cd /usr/src/linux less .config Post the section starting with # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y # CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Inter

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:32:19PM EDT, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Michael Pobega writes: > > > Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing list, or > > > is it better to wait until I meet up with some of them at say

'don't have permission to access" of mediwiki1.7 with apache2

2007-04-01 Thread Jeff Zhang
I've installed apach2 and mediwiki1.7 under sid, which works well before I remembered. However, It stopped to work some times ago. And it seems it didn't support Alias with proper authority. http://localhost/mediawiki/ gives the message: You don't have permission to access /mediawiki/ on this se

RE: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Seth Goodman
Michael Pobega wrote on Sunday, April 01, 2007 7:32 PM -0500: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Michael Pobega writes: > > > Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing > > > list, or is it better to wait until I meet up with some of them > > >

Re: Accessing berkely database files

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 19:02, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:39:14 GMT > "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Is there any program available for linux (preferably packaged for >>> debian), that would

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-04-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Kent West wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/26/07 03:55, Dan H. wrote: >> >>> After this thread has been going on for months, I decided to find out if >>> "sponge burning"

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:50:02PM -0400, John Fleming wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >Michael Pobega writes: > >> Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing list, > >> or > >> is it bette

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread John Fleming
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Michael Pobega writes: > Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing list, > or > is it better to wait until I meet up with some of them at say Debconf or > something similar? Depends on what you mean by "verify"

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:09:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Michael Pobega writes: > > Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing list, or > > is it better to wait until I meet up with some of them at say Debconf or > > something similar? > > Depends on what you mean by "v

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:04:48AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the > > > > brunt that will come. The brunt

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread John Hasler
Michael Pobega writes: > Is it a bad practice to verify keyrings of people on the mailing list, or > is it better to wait until I meet up with some of them at say Debconf or > something similar? Depends on what you mean by "verify". There is nothing wrong with downloading their public keys and us

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > > I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the > > > brunt that will come. The brunt of questions that will FINALLY be there. > > > All of this crap is fil

Re: Accessing berkely database files

2007-04-01 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:39:14 GMT "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Is there any program available for linux (preferably packaged for > > debian), that would allow me to examine the contents of berkely > > database files? (I think that they are versi

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > John C wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > >> On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote: > >>> Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Actually, I woul

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:31:48 -0400 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:01:56PM EDT, Mark Grieveson wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > > Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 > > > Rage Pro Mobility card .. with

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the > > brunt that will come. The brunt of questions that will FINALLY be there. > > All of this crap is filler for the stuff we have coming very soon. >

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread David Purton
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:48:04PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had anything to > do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? > > The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell (ok U > is a Linux distro and Del

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:54:27AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/01/07 10:29, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:05:07 -0500 > > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello John, > > > >> "ID" is a slippery concept. What does it mean to "know who someone > >> is"? > > >

Re: Lilypond

2007-04-01 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:41:11 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:26:41AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > 4) The first rule of "In-Reply-To" headers is that you don't ever > >include "In-Reply-To" headers. > > > So, what's the second rule of I

Re: slrn crash -- froze everything

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > A couple weeks ago I had a problem while using slrn, with an error > wriitng to file after I tried to exit. The input/output error messages > I got suggested a hard drive problem, but that came to nothing. The > whole thing was discussed in another thread here

Re: Is it possible to get the database of packages.debian.org?

2007-04-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 00:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Well, in that case "apt-cache show dpkg-www" > >will do the trick as shown here: > I must admit that in the extent of information this is not worse. > > >What objection is there for that? > It's just a kind of prefering the one and no

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 17:44, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [snip] >>> The order in question is this: >>> >>> http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000&ClientType=Printable >> C

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 17:24, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: >> Again I have to ask, what is "identity"? That is not a flippant >> question. Think about it. > > Ron Johnson writes: >> In the metaphysical sense or the practical sense? > > Practical, but not "com

Re: Is it possible to get the database of packages.debian.org?

2007-04-01 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:51:30AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As synaptic requires root-privileges, I would not really get happy with it, > but dpkg-www seems to be a quite interesting alternative. What about interactive aptitude? No root-priv, searches and limits quite well. Doug. s

Re: add memory and spam question

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
ann kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > for the spam to inside, what is the command to easy to > identify the huge mail to send to the server Just as an example, procmail: :0 B * >102400 { LOG="Too big --- " :0: /dev/null } Which says, "if the body of the message is greater t

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:43:48 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > No local bookstores here :-( > I'm still waiting for a *well written plain English* description of > PGP/GPG. > > ... > The message recipient uses the sender's public key and the digital > signature to recov

Re: Is it possible to get the database of packages.debian.org?

2007-04-01 Thread jfr . fg
>Well, in that case "apt-cache show dpkg-www" >will do the trick as shown here: I must admit that in the extent of information this is not worse. >What objection is there for that? It's just a kind of prefering the one and not the other way. For myself, in _this_ case, commandline is the more cir

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 03/30/07 09:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > The order in question is this: > > > > http://www.kron.com/global/story.asp?s=1962000&ClientType=Printable > > Changing subject... > > Text of Bush's Order on Treatment of Detainees > [schnip

Re: Accessing berkely database files

2007-04-01 Thread s. keeling
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there any program available for linux (preferably packaged for > debian), that would allow me to examine the contents of berkely > database files? (I think that they are version 3) Version 3?!? Perhaps I'm comparing apples and oranges (BDB vs. Btree?)[0],

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 15:04 -0400, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:09:01AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Why not use Gmail (or something similar) for ML traffic? Free (as in > > beer), close to 3 GB of storage, free POP access. > > > > The real question is why Debian doesn't run

Re: /etc/blkid.tab, not static, why is it in /etc?

2007-04-01 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Greg. Greg Folkert, 02.04.2007 00:32: > […] > > And you all wonder why OT threads come about so easily. YMMD! Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:04:31 -0400 Andrew Malcolmson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:09:01AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Why not use Gmail (or something similar) for ML traffic? Free (as in > > beer), close to 3 GB of storage, free POP access. > > > > The real question is wh

Re: /etc/blkid.tab, not static, why is it in /etc?

2007-04-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:32 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > Why is /etc/blkid.tab in /etc? > > Its not static, but changes whenever I mount an USB stick. > > The policy FHS 2.3 (Etch) says that things in /etc must be static but > that /etc/mtab is excepted for historical reasons. > > man blk

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:01:56PM EDT, Mark Grieveson wrote: > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 > > Rage Pro Mobility card .. with the etch version of Xorg? > > > > The ATI web site does not provide drivers fo

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Again I have to ask, what is "identity"? That is not a flippant > question. Think about it. Ron Johnson writes: > In the metaphysical sense or the practical sense? Practical, but not "commonsense". Does your bank need to know "who you really are" in order to safely let you withdraw

Re: recording sound problem

2007-04-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
> hi, > I tried to record sound, using the standard grecord on gnome > (testing), although it is running correctly on a PC, it didn't record > on my laptop which is a new one ( compaq dual core). The sound card is > good since I can hear sound and play video. > so I want to check that the recorder

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 > Rage Pro Mobility card .. with the etch version of Xorg? > > The ATI web site does not provide drivers for this antique so I'll > have to use the one that's provided with Xorg.

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I must admit that your solution is right. I suggested another way to > do that, just by feeding the reply-to field to provide to the most the > opportunity to handle the ML with a maximum of usability -simply by > fixing the wrong reply addressee- and allowing the users

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-01 Thread Dusty Wilson
On 4/1/07, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tend to say cheroot, with the hard "ch" sound (like in cherry, for > > example). I say "shroot" Okay, what about "chown" and "chmod"? I don't imagine a person says "shown" and "shmod" but maybe they do? How do you guys say those? -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-01 Thread dave
on Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 11:13:38AM -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > I tend to say cheroot, with the hard "ch" sound (like in cherry, for > > example). I say "shroot" > > And I just verbalize "change root", "change mod", etc... > Same here... Ciao, Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Logfiles from syslogd

2007-04-01 Thread Joey Hess
Tom Schmitt wrote: > My question: Is there a goog reason for this Yes, it allows automatically rotating all log files configured in /etc/syslog.conf, even if you modify the file and add new ones, without needing to update a separate logrotate configuration file. -- see shy jo signature.asc Des

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-04-01 Thread galevsky
2007/4/1, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the case of needing access from multiple systems, you should use the usenet gateway and a newsreader. nntp://linux.debian.user or http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 12:49, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> A couple of years ago there was a very long thread on what it means to >> "trust". The bottom line was that you can't perfectly know, and that all >> you can do is "your best" at verifying

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 13:28, Dave Ewart wrote: > On Sunday, 01.04.2007 at 11:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/01/07 05:37, Dave Ewart wrote: >>> On Saturday, 31.03.2007 at 16:18 -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: >>> PostgreSQL = post-gress-cue-ell or ? >>>

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1007

2007-04-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 01 April 2007 16:33, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I'm still waiting for a *well written plain English* description of > PGP/GPG. Here's a good start, http://www.pgpi.org/doc/ With the PGP users guide, history, a

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words - gradually going OT :)

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:18:19PM EDT, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:37:30PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > > Hopefully some UNIX aethnologist (or would that be ethnologist?) will > > stick a mike in the face of the old meisters and record their idiolects > > while there's s

Re: getmail question

2007-04-01 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jude DaShiell: > I'm trying to get getmail to work and am needing to have the incoming > e-mail filtered through clamscan which last night had clamscan throw > several errors one aout executing root commands. All I want to do with > the filtering is have clamscan inspect incoming messages and h

Re: Logfiles from syslogd

2007-04-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 22:00 +0200, Tom Schmitt wrote: > Some logfiles are rotated with logrotated, which is > quite confortable. But the syslogd-logfiles have their > own script to rotate them. > > My question: Is there a goog reason for this or could I > delete the syslog-script and rotate the sy

Re: getmail question

2007-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to get getmail to work and am needing to have the incoming > e-mail filtered through clamscan which last night had clamscan throw > several errors one aout executing root commands. All I want to do > with the filtering is have clamscan inspe

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-04-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/07 14:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Seth, > > I think you really understood my intentions. And still agree with all > of your 6 points. As a personal view, I have the skills to set up a > good MUA but this ML makes trouble for my day-to-day

Re: recording sound problem

2007-04-01 Thread Chris Lale
abdelkader belahcene wrote: > hi, > I tried to record sound, using the standard grecord on gnome > (testing), although it is running correctly on a PC, it didn't record > on my laptop which is a new one ( compaq dual core). The sound card is > good since I can hear sound and play video. > > so I w

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [snip] >>> Michael, Wikipedia has a reasonably concise overview: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy >>> >> >> I was wondering about that too. Went to local book store and found a >> good book on both PGP an

Re: Lilypond

2007-04-01 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 09:28 +0300, David Baron wrote: > On Sunday 01 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > dfeuer wrote: > > >> This comment is very late, but I thought I'd mention that LilyPond is > > >> another program for engraving music. I don't know how it compares to > > >> MusiXTeX (al

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:11:20PM +0100, Peter Ellison wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > >Peter Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>The GUI I referred to is gnome, desktop, preferences, screen > >>resolution. Took your advise and attempted to reconfig by running > >>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-

Logfiles from syslogd

2007-04-01 Thread Tom Schmitt
Hi, I setup a server with Debian Etch and had a look at the handling of th logfiles. Some logfiles are rotated with logrotated, which is quite confortable. But the syslogd-logfiles have their own script to rotate them. My question: Is there a goog reason for this or could I delete the syslog-sc

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-04-01 Thread Peter Ellison
Andrei Popescu wrote: Peter Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The GUI I referred to is gnome, desktop, preferences, screen resolution. Took your advise and attempted to reconfig by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg outside of the desktop environment (ctrl alt F1). It stalled at the second

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread John Hasler
Brad Rogers writes: > Here, at least, using that link with Firefox, I get a warning about the > certificate being unrecognised. Yes, because Debian has not paid Verisign for one of their utterly worthless certificates. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread John Hasler
Joe Hart writes: > My doubts of the NSA mostly come from watching too many "conspiracy >theory" [movies]... There may be worse sources if information, but I can think of few. > The phrase "in the interest of National Security" has been and can be > used to cover up just about anything, and the NS

Re: getmail question

2007-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 02:59:04PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I'm trying to get getmail to work and am needing to have the incoming > e-mail filtered through clamscan which last night had clamscan throw > several errors one aout executing root commands. All I want to do with > the filtering

Re: Where is "incoming" distribution?

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:19:24PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > Marko Randjelovic wrote: > >I want to file a bug report on xmms, but reportbug says there is some > >newer version in "incoming". I looked at > >"http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmms/";, but there is no > >such file

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Robert Roach wrote: Jim Hyslop wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: Michael Pobega escribió: [...] What are the advantages to having it? You can be sure that the person is who says it is. We that's a pretty bi

Re: Looking for password manager

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:11:49PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote.. > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:56:18AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I am in the process of moving from Win 2k to Linux. > > > > On Win I have a great little program named RoboForm that manages my > >

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:19:40PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Andrei Popescu escribió: > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>> What are the advantages to ha

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:58:33PM +, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joe Hart wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > >> Joe Hart writes: > >>> I also have serious doubts over the real security benefits of SELinux > >>> specifically because it was developed by t

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:24:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:11:06AM -0400, M

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 02:30:19PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:24:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:11:06AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > P.S. I am testing the autosign option for mutt right now ;) > > > > Also, is there some way

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's actually a coordinated effort for this sort of thing, check > https://nm.debian.org/gpg.php and specifically the "list of key > signing offers". You can also register for a signing request. > > I see one DD from Romania, and several from Vienna

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:09:01AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > Why not use Gmail (or something similar) for ML traffic? Free (as in > beer), close to 3 GB of storage, free POP access. > The real question is why Debian doesn't run a modern, user-friendly, mailing list manager like Mailman, as does the

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:24:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:11:06AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > P.S. I am testing the autosign option

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words - gradually going OT :)

2007-04-01 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:37:30PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > Hopefully some UNIX aethnologist (or would that be ethnologist?) will > stick a mike in the face of the old meisters and record their idiolects > while there's still time. Ethnologist, that's the word I was looking for. All I could thin

Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ?

2007-04-01 Thread nicolas . flinois
Seth, I think you really understood my intentions. And still agree with all of your 6 points. As a personal view, I have the skills to set up a good MUA but this ML makes trouble for my day-to-day usage since I am using several machines, and I am neither root on all of them nor authorized to use

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 13:42:47 +0100 Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > application/pgp-signature (No public key to verify the signature)] > Signature made at Sun 01 Apr 2007 08:42:47 AM EDT > No public key to verify the signature > Key fingerp

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Wayne Topa
cga2000([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 11:30:17AM EDT, Wayne Topa wrote: > > And as Wayne says below if you must be 100% technical in your mailing > list adventures, OT threads give you an excellent opportunity to improve > you mail filtering skills. > > >

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:24:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:11:06AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > P.S. I am testing the autosign option for mutt right now ;) > > > > Also, is there some way to set it so I can s

Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg & DRI

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:54:15PM EDT, Hans du Plooy wrote: > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 Rage > > Pro Mobility card .. with the etch version of Xorg? > > > > The ATI web site does not provide drivers for

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:30 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > Also, is there some way to set it so I can still send mail unsigned? > I've heard that GPG keys give trouble to M$ clients, and most of my > family uses Outlook. You should be able to switch between encrypt, sign, and unsigned somewhere. I

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:06:31PM EDT, John C wrote: > > > Greg Folkert wrote: > >On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote: > >>Greg Folkert wrote: > >>>On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Actually, I wou

getmail question

2007-04-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
I'm trying to get getmail to work and am needing to have the incoming e-mail filtered through clamscan which last night had clamscan throw several errors one aout executing root commands. All I want to do with the filtering is have clamscan inspect incoming messages and have it dispose of mess

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> Joe Hart writes: >>> I also have serious doubts over the real security benefits of SELinux >>> specifically because it was developed by the NSA. It is not rational >>> that they would design a security system t

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
"Dusty Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I'm quite sure to be all alone in this but: > SQL = ess-cue-ell or sequel I say, "squirrel" > MySQL = My-ess-cue-ell (according to an old FAQ on MySQL's site) This is what I take home to clean/cook after hunting. My squirrel > PostgreSQL = post-gress-cue-

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
"Dusty Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I'm quite sure to be all alone in this but: > SQL = ess-cue-ell or sequel I say, "squirrel" > MySQL = My-ess-cue-ell (according to an old FAQ on MySQL's site) This is what I take home to clean/cook after hunting. My squirrel > PostgreSQL = post-gress-cue-

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:30:19 -0400 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Michael, > Also, is there some way to set it so I can still send mail unsigned? I don't know how to do it in Mutt, but for ease, I created a duplicate account in Claws-Mail that doesn't sign emails. Each list I'm

Re: video card / crt monitor problem ?

2007-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
Peter Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The GUI I referred to is gnome, desktop, preferences, screen > resolution. Took your advise and attempted to reconfig by running > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg outside of the desktop environment > (ctrl alt F1). It stalled at the second screen but I mana

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:42:33 -0500 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello John, > What is a "real ID"? Does it ever actually matter? One of the reasons I put the word real in quotes was because it's difficult to quantify. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:42:42 +0200 Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Sven, > There's actually a coordinated effort for this sort of thing, check > https://nm.debian.org/gpg.php and specifically the "list of key > signing offers". You can also register for a signing request. Here, a

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:53:11 -0500 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello John, > In the phrase "web of trust" the word "trust" does not have quite the > same meaning as it does in everyday conversation. Very true. Outside PGP users though, the difference in meaning would be lost though,

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 11:30:17AM EDT, Wayne Topa wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > > > > > Well, if people use [OT] on the subject I don't think there is any serious > > > problem. > > > > > > > Whom are you ki

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 06:24:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:11:06AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: >> >>> I can't figure out how to set it up. The articles mention only talk >>> about PGP, not GPG

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Joe Hart writes: >> I also have serious doubts over the real security benefits of SELinux >> specifically because it was developed by the NSA. It is not rational >> that they would design a security system that they could not acc

/etc/blkid.tab, not static, why is it in /etc?

2007-04-01 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
Why is /etc/blkid.tab in /etc? Its not static, but changes whenever I mount an USB stick. The policy FHS 2.3 (Etch) says that things in /etc must be static but that /etc/mtab is excepted for historical reasons. man blkid says that /etc/blkid.tab is a cachefile. Shouldn't it be in /var/cache? D

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 14:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the > > brunt that will come. The brunt of questions that will FINALLY be there. > > All of this crap is filler for the stuff we have coming very soon. >

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