Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Dan H.
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > What I am in favor of is mandatory service. And > I think there is an important distinction here. The draft makes it > random (in theory) that one get's thrown in the mud with a > rifle. Mandatory service takes the randomness out of it. Its not bad > luck that you're

Where can I get driver for e1000?

2007-02-27 Thread Jon Ingason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am installing Etch on Supermicro PDSME+. The motherboard has two Gigabit interface (Intel 82573V and 82573L). As I understand e1000 driver is appropriate driver for this interface but when I install Debian the installer does not find this driver. If

Re: Subtle but annoying X startup problem

2007-02-27 Thread Bob Cox
n article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:30:35PM +, Bob Cox wrote: >> >| my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | >> >> BTW, is a keysever something that cuts keys? Sorry!! ;-) > In this case, a key is a public

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:01:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Correct. So, according to the Bible, the Muslims are just as wrong > > anyone else. > > Missed the point there, Roberto. According to the Quran *you* are just as > wrong as anyone else. > OK. You ar

Re: old packages

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:59:09PM -0800, Petra Kabayo wrote: > Thanks! I just wanted to compare the MySql banners. The banner for -4sarge7 > is 4.1.11-Debian_4sarge7. Need to verify if the banner for -4 would be > something like 4.1.11-Debian_4. For vulnerability checking relying on banners. >

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Correct. So, according to the Bible, the Muslims are just as wrong > anyone else. Missed the point there, Roberto. According to the Quran *you* are just as wrong as anyone else. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key:

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike McCarty wrote: > Consider posting ON TOPIC. To be on topic one must first know what is off topic. So, please, explain given the often repeated purpose of the list, what exactly constitutes off topic. Remember, "Anything not related to Debian" doesn't count. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: old packages

2007-02-27 Thread Petra Kabayo
Thanks! I just wanted to compare the MySql banners. The banner for -4sarge7 is 4.1.11-Debian_4sarge7. Need to verify if the banner for -4 would be something like 4.1.11-Debian_4. For vulnerability checking relying on banners. "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2007

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Though you don't state so explicitly, the underlying assumption in that > statement is that by being knowledgeable you can do whatever you please on > the list, and to hell with the rest of us. Uh, no. The quite explicitly stated assertion is that maybe we experts k

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:33:54 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Without taking sides on the issue of whether OT has gone too far or > > whether we should just expect people to use filters and 'ignore > > thread', I just want to point out that some of the OT'ers are

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:34:29PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > By comparison my motorcycle gets 40 miles to the gallon and holds 6 and > change of 'em. 3 round trips to work one one 1-way trip to work. Until range > dramatically improves it's pretty much a non-starter. Unless, of course, w

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > There is. Democrats have had a stranglehold on the center ever since the > Republicans ceded the right-of-center in favor of the hard right in the > late 1990s. Paul, the Democrats are no more centrist than the Republicans are. > Just because the candidates are extremis

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > Obviously that kind of change can't happen overnight. Its an ugly > problem, no matter how you cut it. And that doesn't even come close to talking about the problem that a purely electric car has no range at all. I once scoffed at Harley Davidson "touring" motor

Re: MD5Sum mismatch

2007-02-27 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:13:30PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > Or is this a temporary problem? > > Bingo, and typically only on the host you happen to contact. Well, I tried a few different sources with similar results. I did find one source where apt-get update didn't report problems, but

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:21:58PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > So, if you believe Jesus, then the others *must* be wrong (excepting the > > OT Jews, which were under The Law). > > Unless, of course, you're Muslim where it is taught Jesus was a false > prophet. Qu

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > So, if you believe Jesus, then the others *must* be wrong (excepting the > OT Jews, which were under The Law). Unless, of course, you're Muslim where it is taught Jesus was a false prophet. Quite a common theme, actually. -- Steve C. Lamb | But

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/27/07 22:18, Kent West wrote: > > > So "ignorance" of geology in an area you've never visited is > equivalent to "vast stupidity"? > > When it's a geographic feature that covers a big chunk of the country > you live in, then yes, it does. > Well, Paul, at least you're not

Re: old packages

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:56:44PM -0800, Petra Kabayo wrote: > Is there any place I can get old packages? Like for example, the latest > stable mysql-server package is 4.1.11a-4sarge7. Where can I get 4.1.11a-4? or > older versions? > You can get older packages at http://snapshot.debian.net

old packages

2007-02-27 Thread Petra Kabayo
Is there any place I can get old packages? Like for example, the latest stable mysql-server package is 4.1.11a-4sarge7. Where can I get 4.1.11a-4? or older versions? Thanks! - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 22:18, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/27/07 17:49, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: The vast stupidity of that question is beyond scope. >>> It's not stupid if you haven't been there. >> I thought you were sma

usb audio device & sound card

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Grieveson
Hi. I have a cheap usb audio device for Skype, and a regular sound card for the rest of the computer. I'm using Etch. I would like to be able to get sound when browsing the internet, or listening to music, or watching movies, from the soundcard, while simultaneously being able to use the usb

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Paul Johnson wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:11PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: There is also FET (Federal Excise Tax). That's what all the xxx.xx 9/10 comes from. It's a luxury tax (you didn't know that gasoline is a luxury?). Just like the one passed in 19

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/27/07 17:49, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> The vast stupidity of that question is beyond scope. > > It's not stupid if you haven't been there. > > I thought you were smarter than that. > > Presuming you're not: > > Mountains and valleys (great for fillin

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Re: updated iceweasel firefox now hijacked from homepage to ads!

2007-02-27 Thread Mitchell Laks
Dear fellow debianers, Thank all of you for answering my question. It was very informative to see that the behavior arose from a careless? configuration assumption that assumes http://firefox/ will resolve to the real mozilla site. But more fundamentally- 1) why should my browser ever directed

Re: Undigesting digests (was: Number of OT Posts)

2007-02-27 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > You're supposed to undigest digests back into their component messages after > receiving the digest Interesting. I didn't know that (and I suspect most people like me who are learning to kick the Windows dependency habit probably

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:44:32PM -0800 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: > Stephen wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:39:50AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >> > Also, go install Outlook Quotefix already if you're going to keep > >> > posting. > >> > > >

I geminate

2007-02-27 Thread Burt Pereira
District Attorney-elect Rod Pacheco said the evidence against Oyler was "overwhelming," Critical Care Inc, symbl: .CTCX. This one is an easy doubler @ 65 cents wont last long Expected target : $ 3.00 Critical Care Announces Expansion of Cost Containment Activities Business Wire (Fri, Feb 16)

For wolf

2007-02-27 Thread Noe Spanglerw
aren't unpatriotic, just wrong. He said Democrats who voted against legislation to Critical Care Inc, symbl: .CTCX. This one is an easy doubler @ 65 cents wont last long Expected target : $ 3.00 Critical Care Announces Expansion of Cost Containment Activities Business Wire (Fri, Feb 16) Cr

Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa

2007-02-27 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 19:16 -0500, Kyle Messineo wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed the latest etch distro (kernel 2.6.18-3-686) onto a > whitebox intel pc running an Adaptec 2420sa raid controller and 4x sata > 750gb hd's. The raid is configured as raid5 on three drives with the 4th > ru

Re: Re: No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
> On 2/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Your message was received at Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:33:10 +: > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: No Mouse in X > > > > This account is protected by Bluebottle. Please click on the > > following link to have your addre

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 18:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 18:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> [snip] >>>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 17:59, Paul Johnson wrote: > cothrige wrote: > >> * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > He was a full-fledged supporter of

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:35:08PM -0600, John C wrote: > > Their mindset appears to be something like... > > "I post a lot and that means I'm important so the rest of you can > just go to hell and figure out how to block me" > > Kind of childishly selfish for otherwise talented people. > I im

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 17:49, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 14:38, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Stephen wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> [snip] >>> H

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread John C
Joey is absolutely right, but the OT posters just keep going and going and going and in the process they are degrading the usefulness of this list. Don't misunderstand me, I certainly don't mind OT posts now and then. Some are useful, some are amusing, and occasionally some are even intellige

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread cothrige
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > He was a full-fledged supporter of McCarthyism, never saw a war he didn't > like, was very much anti-labor-rights, and verbally abused Eisenhower for > having a moral compass on those issues. His only saving grace is he turned > libertarian in retire

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread dd-b
> Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/26/07 14:38, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Stephen wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> [snip] >>> How many hydro dams are on the Mississippi, anyway? It would be a >>> waste >>> to be u

Re: ssh

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:59:14PM -0800, jeffd wrote: > > > I think what you are looking for is : > PubkeyAuthentication yes > Don't forget to also set "ChallengeResponseAuthentication no" in the sshd_config. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http:/

Re: ssh

2007-02-27 Thread Guillermo Garron
On 2/27/07, jeffd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi All: > Is anyone aware of a friendly openssh (including > server) that installs on Debian etch and allows > interactive connections secured by pubkeys? > > I installed ssh and openssh-server from debian. OK > using password

Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:58:49PM -0600, Rob Wright wrote: > > No suggestions for you, but I installed this exact card into a new SuperMicro > server last week to use RAID 5 on 3 SATA drives. I had no trouble at all with > it. The Adaptec card _is_ hardware RAID. > My mistake. I take back wh

Re: ssh

2007-02-27 Thread jeffd
Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi All: Is anyone aware of a friendly openssh (including server) that installs on Debian etch and allows interactive connections secured by pubkeys? I installed ssh and openssh-server from debian. OK using password, though I met problems in configuring for pubkeys (ssd_co

Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa

2007-02-27 Thread Rob Wright
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 18:16, Kyle Messineo wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed the latest etch distro (kernel 2.6.18-3-686) onto a > whitebox intel pc running an Adaptec 2420sa raid controller and 4x sata > 750gb hd's. The raid is configured as raid5 on three drives with the 4th > runnin

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:48:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Given that America's catching up politically to the rest of the world, yes, > those *are* centrist ideals these days. > Sorry. I don't like relativism. I see it as us heading down the tubes after them. This is not a good thing.

[OT] Vista and MS Office 2007 was [OT] Recipe for a Debian thread that won't die

2007-02-27 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 2/27/07, Cybe R. Wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since top posting is the thing to do... How can your recipe ever rise if you continually fail to add the required bash of Microsoft? Cybe -since the .sig is /way/ down below somewhere Updated Recipe for a Debian thread that won't die. In

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:00:46PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> There is. Democrats have had a stranglehold on the center ever since the >> Republicans ceded the right-of-center in favor of the hard right in the >> late 1990s. >> > Sorry, but the Decromats are mo

Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:16:50PM -0500, Kyle Messineo wrote: > > Hello, > >I just installed the latest etch distro (kernel 2.6.18-3-686) onto a > whitebox intel pc running an Adaptec 2420sa raid controller and 4x sata > 750gb hd's. The raid is configured as raid5 on three drives with the

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 18:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] >> Opening another can of worms, it seems lik

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:11:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > You can be in favor of a higher minimum wage and still be against increasing > the number of H1B visas. Of course you can. It just makes you a hypocrite. > Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing H1B and it's > equivalents abroad elim

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
cothrige wrote: > * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that >> >> had >> >> moral fortitude. You can't get that far

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 14:38, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Stephen wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West >>> wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >> How many hydro dams are on the Mississippi, anyway? It would be a waste >> to be using coal or nu

Re: konqueror is slow

2007-02-27 Thread Michael M.
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 14:01 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:15:39PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:33 +0100, Cédric Lucantis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > On my laptop, konqueror takes, sometimes, tens seconds to acce

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:28:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> How about the mode, and ban outside employment of elected officials? I >> guarantee minimum wage will return to being a minimum living wage again >> like it started as and was intended to be. >> > Le

Re: Debian Installation on a cybercafe PC

2007-02-27 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 00:26 +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > Well, > Firstly, the cybercafe guy knows me well and I installed and > configuerd a debian firewall for him so he's quite friendly with me > :-) > > Secondly, I haven't yet seen a PC bogged up due to installing or > uninstalling Linux. Does that

Re: No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Looks for lines containing (EE) which indicates error lines and post them > if you see any. s/Looks/Look s/indicates/indicate (feeling embarrassed) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Myers wrote: > > >> When you're on the digest that is not an option. Please consider us. :-( >> > Yes, actually, it is, the same as it is for everybody else. > > You're supposed to undigest digests back into their component messages after > receiving the digest

Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa

2007-02-27 Thread Kyle Messineo
Hello, I just installed the latest etch distro (kernel 2.6.18-3-686) onto a whitebox intel pc running an Adaptec 2420sa raid controller and 4x sata 750gb hd's. The raid is configured as raid5 on three drives with the 4th running hotspare. The etch installer booted fine, saw the raid vol,

Re: No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Dave Walker wrote: > I have the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log available, but it is rather lengthy > to post here right now. Looks for lines containing (EE) which indicates error lines and post them if you see any. Also what mouse is this? Is it a USB mouse? PS/2 mouse? touchpad on a laptop? raju

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >> >> Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >> on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over in China, where coal >> and auto pollution is hundreds of times worse than in th

RE: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Julian De Marchi
> Bah humbug! Get a job, you lazy kids! Who are the lazy kids? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > [snip] > > Perhaps not. There is a danger, however, that some of the rest of us > leave the list. That could make you an expert without a > constituency.

Re: OT Posts - My apologies!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Julian De Marchi wrote: > I have found my out spoken "opinion" of OT threads to be quiet mistaken. > After having the time to read the non "god" related ones, they actually > do by time in between REAL threads. They have also proven to be quite > interesting to read, and I have now realized that t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 15:29, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/26/07 16:11, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wr

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
We all read from top down. Please adjust your quoting appropriately. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Andrew Myers wrote: > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> It's >>> getting a little difficult to find the ON topic posts. >>> >>> Mike > >>Three words: filter, f

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: > Mike McCarty wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Julian De Marchi wrote: >>> I use ms outlook at work, cause I am locked down to use it. >>> >>> That doesn't make it a good idea to use it, it *does* make i

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:53:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > If that were true, US-101 across the Columbia River would still be toll, and > last summer I would have had a lot more toll receipts from Bridge of the > Gods, which for the first time in memory was toll-free last summer. I-5 > fro

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:11PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> There is also FET (Federal Excise Tax). That's what all the xxx.xx 9/10 >> comes from. It's a luxury tax (you didn't know that gasoline is a >> luxury?). Just like the one passed in 1906 or thereabouts

Re: No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/07 17:28, Dave Walker wrote: > Hope I am at the right place to ask for help! > > I have reached a debian wall - I have been happy with my progress to > date in > getting my sarge built and running, but have run into something that I > can't >

Re: ssh

2007-02-27 Thread James McCaw
The standard ssh for etch is all you need. man ssh-keygen will show you how to create a public key You should probably look through the documentation in /usr/share/doc/openssh-client. Cheers James On 28/02/07, Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All: Is anyone aware of a friendly o

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:39:50AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> > Also, go install Outlook Quotefix already if you're going to keep >> > posting. >> > >> > >> >> That reminds me; apparently (and I say "apparently" because I haven't >> tested

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 18:15, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Alcee Hastings? > > Didn't he get impeached for taking bribes, and only avoid conviction > because his chrony took the fifth amendment to save his own ass? Point your browser to Wikipe

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 14:38, Paul Johnson wrote: > Stephen wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > How many hydro dams are on the Mississippi, anyway? It would be a waste to > be usi

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Consider KMail or read the list via a news reader on >> nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user > > Consider posting ON TOPIC. I'm not particularly off topic. Try reading the list description. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Dave Walker
Hope I am at the right place to ask for help! I have reached a debian wall - I have been happy with my progress to date in getting my sarge built and running, but have run into something that I can't overcome. The Problem: When I run X (startx) from any user account, it begins, loads Gnome (jus

RE: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Julian De Marchi wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 19:34 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Respect for posters lowers over time the more they top post. >> http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices >> >> Julian De Marchi wrote: >> >> > Ubuntu is my Desktop system of choice. It is based on "deb

ssh

2007-02-27 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi All: Is anyone aware of a friendly openssh (including server) that installs on Debian etch and allows interactive connections secured by pubkeys? I installed ssh and openssh-server from debian. OK using password, though I met problems in configuring for pubkeys (ssd_config comes with "UsePAM ye

Re: gigabit nic

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:36:44PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:27 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Can't really go wrong with an Intel or 3Com (are they still making new > > stuff?). > > Careful. Intel's onboard controllers of late are often rebranded Marvel > Yukon

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >> > >> >Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >> >on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over

Re: static IP

2007-02-27 Thread Jordi
Thanks Joe. I edited the file hosts in /etc/ , and added this: 192.168.0.129 localhost so now when I type localhost, I get the server. I did the Shields Up scan and reported all is very secure except I have opened ports relating to http, https and ftp, wich I know I opened for people to access

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> Wouldn't this all be much more easily and quickly accomplished if we made >> the children of politicians automatic first round draft picks regardless >> of situation, or make the draft only apply to politician's children? >> >> > > in that same vein, I think us c

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 09:34, Kent West wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >>> >>> Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >>> on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over in China, where coal >>> and auto p

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> The "answer" is to make more wind farms. > >> Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity >> demand is highest. Thus, (enough) wind farms would help smooth out >> the need for peak loads from nuke- or non-renewable generating plants. >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:18 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> I would argue that anything larger than a pickup truck is not an offroad >> vehicle regardless of marketing. A Ford Excursion and all Hummer models >> fail to qualify as offroad vehicles for this reason in my book. Y

Re: fvwm (was: Re: Firefox/Iceweasel's weird close/quit behaviour)

2007-02-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:42:35 -0500 Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:12:27 +0100 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > I installed fvwm, and I'm running it in another session, I must say, > > without messing with any configuration, it looks quite impres

Re: gigabit nic

2007-02-27 Thread Chris Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > Chris Parker wrote: > >> What recommendations for a gigabit nic on a dell power edge 2400? It is >> going to be used as a network analysis box. > > Intel's gigabit NICs are well supported and Intel themselves tests their > boar

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 16:11, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much better here,

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Julian De Marchi wrote: >> >>>I use ms outlook at work, cause I am locked down to use it. >> >> >> That doesn't make it a good idea to use it, it *does* make it a good idea >> to encourage coworkers to use something other than email to contact you >>

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:26:53AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Not necessarily, they can all be right: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_the_Wise > Actually, the can't all be right: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but

RE: gigabit nic

2007-02-27 Thread Julian De Marchi
> Careful. Intel's onboard controllers of late are often rebranded Marvel > Yukons - and they're useless. Curious as to why the Marvel Yukons are crap? As my laptop runs this, and I have noticed it drops out now and again... Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: gigabit nic

2007-02-27 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:27 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Can't really go wrong with an Intel or 3Com (are they still making new > stuff?). Careful. Intel's onboard controllers of late are often rebranded Marvel Yukons - and they're useless. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:19:01 +0530 Vibhav Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan H. wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > > >> When the Bible says something, I believe it. > >> > > > > Isn't that a bit silly? After all, the Bible is a collection of > > stories, > Also in support o

RE: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Julian De Marchi
> Julian, no need to be so hostile. The mailing list is here to help > you, not hurt you. If you don't like something someone may have said > do what I do and just ignore it, it's safer to be non-confrontational > than it is to be a fighter. I will when I have to defend myself! -- To UNSUBSCRI

RE: OT Posts - My apologies!

2007-02-27 Thread Julian De Marchi
> So, are you going to join in on the discussion? > :-) When I see it fit. :-) Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:46:06 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 01:53, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:04:39 -0500 > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:40:25

Re: working with windows larger than screen

2007-02-27 Thread csanyipal
Hi! On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:57:05PM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Can anyone recommend a window manager or a desktop environment which > efficiently handles windows that are larger than physical size of screen? > > any ideas? I use Window Maker. Here, if the opened window is larger th

Re: konqueror is slow

2007-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:15:39PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:33 +0100, Cédric Lucantis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > On my laptop, konqueror takes, sometimes, tens seconds to access pages. > > > Since character terminal 'links' web browser quickly navigates

Re: Debian Installation on a cybercafe PC

2007-02-27 Thread Greg Madden
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:51 -0500 rir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:43:50AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > > Because I need to burn CDs at times and as far as I have knowledge, > > Knoppix atleast won't let the CD out once booted. > > Use "knoppix toram" at the boot prompt. >

Re: [OT] Recipe for a Debian thread that won't die

2007-02-27 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Since top posting is the thing to do... How can your recipe ever rise if you continually fail to add the required bash of Microsoft? Cybe -since the .sig is /way/ down below somewhere "Manaen Schlabach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sorry about the top posting but it felt like the right thing to

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Opening another can of worms, it seems like everyone would be a lot > better off if New Orleans was rebuilt further inland. "But it has > all this history!" So what! So did most Alaskan villages and towns > prior to the Great Alaskan Quake of 1960, and m

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:19:03PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I heard the US switched to the metric system some time ago, and > > >that the inch is now *defined* as 2.54 cm as a transition measure. > > > > > Which is

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