Re: how to do a clean upgrade without losing packages?

2003-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:51:53PM +0100, abo wrote: > I want to upgrade from stable to unstable. > I changend my sources.list and apt.conf and run a 'apt-get update'. > > with 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' I would lose these packages: > > The followin

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:06:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs > to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run > (which usually just printed to the default printer, see #193530). I don't know... I never

Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong

2003-11-14 Thread Brent Miller
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > One thing I've come to think about: My ISP has suffered many > DDoS-attacks, I have no idea why. However, could it be that they have > installed a firewall on the router that makes this go so slow? Possible. Maybe they've installed something like psad on their system. If

NC [Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers]

2003-11-14 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:44:25PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:37:08PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:09:33PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neu

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:37:08PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:09:33PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ > > > > My everloving christ. You must be th

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:48:33PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Doubly so with the whole > Fedora fiasco (which is one of the reasons why I am no longer a RHAT > shareholder). Sorry for my ignorance, I was out of it for a few months, but-- what is that 'Fedora' thing, in a nutshell? I've nev

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:09:33PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ > > My everloving christ. You must be the only Linux user in Brunswick > County. I expect there's a few up in

CDROM source not found when Installing Kernel

2003-11-14 Thread lanny lampl
I am trying to install Debian 3.0 r1 from the 7 CD set which I just purchased on a Dell Inspiron 300m laptop. The PC boots from the first CD and I get as far as partitioning my drive. When I try to "Install Kernel and Driver Modules", the CDROM does not appear in the source list, only floopy, hard

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:07:01AM +, ben wrote: [snip] > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made > public statements about how god instructed him to invade afghanistan and > iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church and state? compared to the taliban

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:55:58 -0800 Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote: > ... > >>These potentially highly dangerous individuals are confined to > >>institutions known as 'research centres', and if non conforming are seen

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Chema
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 + Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: P> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and P> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do P> cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a worthwhile P> fish to come by.

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread ben
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless > > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) > > First off, my advan

Re: nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1

2003-11-14 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:19:33AM +0800, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I have an NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440] video card that > worked fine with the nvidia-glx_1.0.4191-1_i386.deb that I got from > Justin A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s web page about nine months ago. > >

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:49:28PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I thought the insides of walls existed as a repository for empty > > cigarette packets, food wrappers, bent nails, odd lumps of plaster and > > other miscellaneous small building debris..

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-14 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:34:13AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote.. > Don't remember what the exact codecs are. Prety much the standard for > dvds now is divx (mpeg4 variant). Linux plays it out of the box, but > windows media player needs an external plugin (www.divx.com). The > player plugin is

Re: kde in "testing" ?

2003-11-14 Thread David Crane
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:42 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:19:52AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > You're right, there's a partial transition from kde2 to kde3 in > > sarge. Neither are usable if you install a new system now. > > (unless you go to unstable) > > It's defi

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't think they will do so well with the n

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-14 Thread Wayne Topa
martin f krafft([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs > to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run > (which usually just printed to the default printer, see #193530). > The only way to actually pr

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:50:40PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:25:19PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 08:33:02PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > (c) running costs for > > > the sort of vehicle that gets you from A

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-14 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: > I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. > > I do want system mail (cron, error messages, &c.) to be delivered to > root. > > Is exim required? > > If I uninstall exim, will system

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 18:22, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:32:22PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Alfredo Valles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:00 > > Subject: Re: Opium [wa

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:38, cr wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, David Palmer. wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600 > > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote: > > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > A

Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:12:35PM -0800, Daddy Vaughan wrote: > Sorry about the lateness of this question, but in furthering > spamassassin's training, should one _not_ have SA write a log into the > spam being used for training? sa-learn will filter out the spamassassin report, and only look

Installation Help: SATA Drive

2003-11-14 Thread Justin Burke
Hi All, I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both installation methods hang at the same point: "Loading kernel modules Detected module 'ide-probe-mod' for 'Linux IDE probe driver'" I have reason

Re: Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-14 Thread Daddy Vaughan
Sorry about the lateness of this question, but in furthering spamassassin's training, should one _not_ have SA write a log into the spam being used for training? Thanks! Kenward ps. This is off of Galeon (instead of Mutt), so I don't know if it's going to set up the headers properly. I do

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-14 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes: > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 3.0 > $ which tzsetup > /usr/sbin/tzsetup It doesn't show up on the Stable system I'm using right now. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: How to set up XDM to automatically login one user?

2003-11-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:37:29PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote: > Thanks! That did the trick. The keyboard must be closed after login, > but that's no big deal. > > The Xsetup file has been dropped from the Debian xdm package, so I had > to create a new file called "Xsetup" that contained just a

What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-14 Thread Michael D Schleif
I am building a Debian web server for a DMZ. I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. I do want system mail (cron, error messages, &c.) to be delivered to root. Is exim required? If I uninstall exim, will system mail continue to be delivered? What is the Debian way to accomplish these

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 06:20:32PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Bill Marcum writes: > > Tzsetup, however, does have a man page. > > Tzsetup is not, however, present in Stable. $ cat /etc/debian_version 3.0 $ which tzsetup /usr/sbin/tzsetup $ dpkg -S tzsetup base-config: /usr/share/man/

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-14 Thread martin f krafft
I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run (which usually just printed to the default printer, see #193530). The only way to actually print now is piping the output to lpr. Not that bad, but something's br

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:32:22PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Alfredo Valles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:00 > Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: > "

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-14 Thread John Hasler
Bill Marcum writes: > Tzsetup, however, does have a man page. Tzsetup is not, however, present in Stable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Moved on.......

2003-11-14 Thread Tom Allison
Tim Kelley wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 2:48 pm, Jeffrey W. Pearson wrote: Ive figured out how I broke my apt install and fixed it. Ive installed MySQL, and php4 and php4-mysql. Im running the stable version of the Debian.One thing I notice is they are all old versions but when I run the

problem compiling kernel

2003-11-14 Thread Richard Kimber
I tried to compile a new kernel with CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --added_patches=lowlatency,preempt --append-to-version=.rk1103 but got the following:- In file included from ide-cd.c:318: ide-cd.h:440: error: long, short, signed or unsigned used invalidly for `slot_tablelen' make[4]: *** [ide-cd.o] Err

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Alfredo Valles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 15:00 Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]] > > [1] For those (particular

Re: How to set up XDM to automatically login one user?

2003-11-14 Thread Lance Simmons
* Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031114 07:20]: > > Get the keyboard app xvkbd (there's a debian package for it). > Edit the kdm/xdm file Xsetup, add the line /usr/X11R6/bin/xvkbd > & to the end, just before exit 0. When you start kdm/xdm next > you should see a keyb

Re: Moved on.......

2003-11-14 Thread Tim Kelley
On Friday 14 November 2003 2:48 pm, Jeffrey W. Pearson wrote: > Ive figured out how I broke my apt install and fixed it. Ive > installed MySQL, and php4 and php4-mysql. Im running the stable > version of the Debian.One thing I notice is they are all old > versions but when I run the apt-update

sarge installation

2003-11-14 Thread Tom Allison
I downloaded and burned the sarge netinst CD (dated 11/09/2003) and have been trying to install it on a new box. Observations. at "boot:" don't hit 'net'. bad things seem to happen. Select Language is NOOP Hardware detection fails at ide-cd modprobe Very inconsistent behaviour. Same keystrokes g

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread donw
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:38:22AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..and, learn to say "no way!". An honest "_No!_" up front, earns you > respect for your spine and integrity. Everything else, you can learn. I'll drink to that; I've done independent small-time contracting before, and I'll likely be

Virus from german Debian Mirror ?

2003-11-14 Thread Joachim Baumann
Hi, when installing a Debian today from CDs all seemed well until we installed two additional packages using a mirror (zlib-dev and jpeg-something). We also updated the system using apt-get upgrade. Shortly after that the system started to have problems. We identified the source of the problem

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:44:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > > > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > > On these

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one > On Thursday 13 November 2003 20:15, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > Op do 13-11-2003, om 02:12 schreef BruceG:

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Erik Steffl
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote: ... These potentially highly dangerous individuals are confined to institutions known as 'research centres', and if non conforming are seen as a disruptive and undesirable element by the established social order, and are further r

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > Vikki RoemerHomepage: http://neuromancer.homelinux.com/ My everloving christ. You must be the only Linux user in Brunswick County. I expect there's a few up in Wilmington or down in Myrtle Beach. My how the world has chan

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:24:25 -0800, Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do > > > than search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right > > > places' to get Debian applications were listed

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-14 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Pigeon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 07:52 Subject: Re: Installing modem. >From my last post you can see that I finally went to command line and while that solved a lot of problems it didnt allow *me* to send a co

Re: 56K video link software?

2003-11-14 Thread Wesley J Landaker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 3:17 pm, David Selby wrote: > I have a relative who has moved out to Australia & am interested in > using a webcam & 56K modem for a video link (I know the picture > quality will be rough) > > > Can anyone point me in the rig

VERY IMPORTANT!

2003-11-14 Thread Clifford Sanusi
Hello, I am Mr.Clifford sanusi, an Aide of Ex President Charles Taylor. As you may know he has recently stepped down from power and is presently in assylum in Calabar. The purpose of my letter is to ask if you can render the assistance requested and to bring to bear my present position and the very

Re: fetchmail configure question

2003-11-14 Thread Lucas Bergman
Christian Scheiblich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Fetchmail is runnig as a daemon and fetching every 10 minutes mails > from diffrent mailboxs and delievers them to exim, great it works! > But fetchmail modifies the headers of the mails in such a way, that > I can't figure out which mail came fro

Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-14 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > On these, I would sell Sarge. > And charge extra for anything else. Hmm, not sure if I should mention this, but, what the hel

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-14 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:15:18 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: [...] > Red Hat is abandoning its old business model because that model > wasn't working for its investors. You (and everyone else) can > expect other distributions that have a business model basis to > also fail for the same reasons. What

Re: dpkg error SID 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.

2003-11-14 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Jaye! On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:01:25PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit wrote: I have been (trying) to test the new Debian installer. My goal is to get my test box up and running with current SID and then test the new 2.6 kernels. Every time I attempt to update to SID, I get this dpkg error: [... sni

Re: Re:unsubscribe

2003-11-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:21, L.F. wrote: > The 12th of November Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me "READ THIS > CAREFULLY. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE DEBIAN USER > MAILING LIST:SEND and E-MAIL to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THAT > MESSAGE ONLY PUT:unsubscribe" First of all than

Formatting disc on HP Writer 7100`

2003-11-14 Thread Duncan Stewart
I have had this on my computer since 1999. Within last few days have tried to format a new Memorex CD-RW, 700 MB, 80 Minute, 4X multi speed disc.   I am attempting to make a data CD. When formatting after about 5 minutes it crashes and I get the following error message.   "Illegal Start Bloc

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Rhett
> > The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do than > > search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right places' to get > > Debian applications were listed on the debian homepages, this wouldn't be > > necessary. (more on this below) > > All of the "right" places alr

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-14 Thread Joe Rhett
Since this post has no technical merits, I separated it out. > > I've been using Linux since 0.7x kernels, so you can skip the patronizing. > > Last time I checked, some of my patches were still in the driver sources > > for various adapters. > Though I must say I'm extremely curious how you mana

Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Marcum
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. > After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape > sequences. Running update-alternatives, I noticed the pager was changed >

more stuff - Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya and yes... putting all this back into debian world .. all this opium stuff, social engineering, and monkeys have everything to do with "sys admining" a linux/debian box for those that are wondering .. :-) doing the sysadmining of the debian part is only 5-10% of the "total work" aint it

56K video link software?

2003-11-14 Thread David Selby
I have a relative who has moved out to Australia & am interested in using a webcam & 56K modem for a video link (I know the picture quality will be rough) Can anyone point me in the right direction for video link software ? Many thanks Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-14 Thread John Peter
Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:08:44PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Icewm is lovely and a bit friendlier than pwm, but not the leanest by a bit. Here's some sizes for reference: Package: pwm Installed-Size: 336 Package: icewm Installed-Size: 1131

kudos!

2003-11-14 Thread Susma Rio Sep
Can't find any button for feedbacks. Good work! God bless you. Please put a button in your website for feedbacks. There are people who just want to tell you about their joy in meeting you people and want to say thanks to you. I am going to install Debian and rid myself of all the frustrations o

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Thu,

fetchmail configure question

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Scheiblich
Hello, I got a fetchmail configure problem. Fetchmail is runnig as a daemon and fetching every 10 minutes mails from diffrent mailboxs and delievers them to exim, great it works! But fetchmail modifies the headers of the mails in such a way, that I can't figure out which mail came from which mail

Re: OT: Drugs (was Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong --)

2003-11-14 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 08:56:51PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:39:56PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > Now you're just contradicting yourself. You're also handing me the > > point I've been trying to make on a platter. > > After claiming that it's blatant hypocrisy to treat differen

Re: gcc problem - can't create executable

2003-11-14 Thread Lucas Bergman
"James W. Thompson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to build the mono runtime environment and get the > message that the C compiler can't create executables...I have > attached the configuration log file in case that will help any one > in figuring out what may be going amiss... > >

Re: Geological tracking application

2003-11-14 Thread Jose Colmenares
Maybe it could be usefull GMP -Generic Mapping Tool-. It doesn't all your needs, but it could be helpfull. As fas as I now, it works pretty nicely.   José ColmenaresMartin Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 20:41, Curtis Vaughan wrote:> Is anyone aware of Linux-based appl

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:35:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: > [snip very good points] > > > > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read > > > just well

Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong

2003-11-14 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Friday 14 November 2003 12:55, Johannes Zarl wrote: > The duration of an nmap varies greatly dependant of the timing policy > you use. For example paranoid (-T0) leaves 5min between two scans, > resulting in roughly 350 (approx. number of services in > /etc/services) * 5min ~= 29 hours. Yeah, b

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread cr
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:00, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back > > > in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked > > > into their High School armed with rifles and pisto

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have in the > > > streets, bullets do

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread cr
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:12, David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 > > > > > > > > > Agreed. > > > Einstein failed a maths exam, didn't see the

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Marcum
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 08:13:18AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Geoff writes: > > I tried 'apropos timezone' to jog my memory and that one didn't come up. > > Tzconfig has no man page. This is a bug. Tzsetup, however, does have a man page. Tzsetup uses the debconf interface, while tzconfig is p

Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong

2003-11-14 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Thanks for the reply! One thing I've come to think about: My ISP has suffered many DDoS-attacks, I have no idea why. However, could it be that they have installed a firewall on the router that makes this go so slow? On Friday 14 November 2003 20:27, Brent Miller wrote: > Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: [snip very good points] > > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read > > just well enough so that they no longer need to think. > > Regards, > > > The mode

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:12, David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 0

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: > Einstein failed a maths exam, didn't see the sense in memorising > multiplication tables when they were already written down. Which doesn't mean that every boy that fail a math exam is a genius. Yes, memorizing multiplication tables is b

Re: Moved on.......

2003-11-14 Thread Lucas Bergman
"Jeffrey W. Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ive figured out how I broke my apt install and fixed it. Ive > installed MySQL, and php4 and php4-mysql. Im running the stable > version of the Debian.One thing I notice is they are all old > versions but when I run the apt-update it tells me

gcc problem - can't create executable

2003-11-14 Thread James W. Thompson, II
I am trying to build the mono runtime environment and get the message that the C compiler can't create executables...I have attached the configuration log file in case that will help any one in figuring out what may be going amiss... -James config.log Description: Binary data

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:07:49PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > I don't think it's valid to generalise from opium to pot. Both the > addictiveness and the nature of the effects are too different. I > consider it unfortunate that since they are both illegal such > generalisations do tend to be made. Th

courier

2003-11-14 Thread claus larsen
Hello.- For the first time i am setting up a courier to handle my post from my domain. I can sending mails from the account but i cannot recieve mails. I think i have made a mistake in the configuration. Do anybody have a hint to find the mistake? Regards Claus ___

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:00, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back > > in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked > > into their High School armed with rifles and pistols. They proceed- > > ed to blow away those they didn

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > On Friday 14 Novemb

Re: Geological tracking application

2003-11-14 Thread Martin Wegmann
On Friday 14 November 2003 20:41, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Is anyone aware of Linux-based application capable of proving visual > geographical tracking? > > To be more specific: > We are a fishing company. Every daily we receive reports from our > vessels about their location, water temp and depth,

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Alfredo Valles
> [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back > in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked > into their High School armed with rifles and pistols. They proceed- > ed to blow away those they didn't like, whatever the reason. I have heard a lot about so

Re: Sarge Netinstall ISO

2003-11-14 Thread Otto Wyss
> Yesterday, I downloaded the following image: > http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/sarge-i386-netinst.iso > Burned the image to CD using Xcdroast, CD refuses to boot. The CD > will mount and read properly. Tried another self-burned bootable CD > (different image) and it boote

Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one

2003-11-14 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:49:28PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:45, Pigeon wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:42:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:21, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > Still a bit confused on what hardware components i need but

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-14 Thread Bill Marcum
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:08:44PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Icewm is lovely and a bit friendlier than pwm, but not the leanest by a > bit. Here's some sizes for reference: > > Package: pwm > Installed-Size: 336 > > Package: icewm > Installed-Size: 1131 > P

Moved on.......

2003-11-14 Thread Jeffrey W. Pearson
OK.   I mainly was using source compiles because I wanted to control the versions of what I was running. When I ran Red Hat, if I wanted to use their rpm manager, I was limited to what version had been prepared by other people...and usually at least a version or two back.   Ive figured out how

cdrom

2003-11-14 Thread Jose Colmenares
I have a HP Pentium I. The cdrom sudenly stopped working, and I replaced it for an used one (wich worked just fine). As it turns out, the cdrom I just installed isn´t working either... I get a message like:   /dev/cdrom/ is a bad block device   The cdrom was working just fine. I brought it home an

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:48, David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > On the upside, those with the

Why can't I access my anonymous /mirror directory

2003-11-14 Thread Otto Wyss
I haven't used proftp for almost a year but now I tried to use it again for my local debian partial mirror. But I can't access the the "/mirror" directory anymore. I always get the error "no such file or directory". Below is the relevant part of my proftp.conf. Does anyone know the base director

k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-14 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo! I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? Thanks ;) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usu

Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On the upside, those with the brains to move > > > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder w

Re: 2.4.22-3 panic in woody / ide bug?

2003-11-14 Thread Nelson E. Castillo
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:54:42AM +0200, Alexei Chetroi wrote: > > Abstract : Trying to avoid kernel panic. I will never forget to compile modules :) make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -custom01 \ --config oldconfig kernel_image kernel_headers \ kernel_doc modules --bzima

Re: Geological tracking application

2003-11-14 Thread Wesley J Landaker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 12:41 pm, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Is anyone aware of Linux-based application capable of proving visual > geographical tracking? I don't know much about what exactly your requirements are, but a quick search on google linked

dpkg error SID 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.

2003-11-14 Thread Jaye Inabnit
Greetings: I have been (trying) to test the new Debian installer. My goal is to get my test box up and running with current SID and then test the new 2.6 kernels. Every time I attempt to update to SID, I get this dpkg error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# agi gpm Reading Package Lists... Done Building D

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread donw
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:13:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > 2. If drop-out rates increased exponentially, they'd "hit" 100% >very soon. Rather, say "ignorance rates are increasing at an >alarming rate". Good point. -- Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh

Re:unsubscribe

2003-11-14 Thread L.F.
The 12th of November Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me "READ THIS CAREFULLY. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE DEBIAN USER MAILING LIST:SEND and E-MAIL to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THAT MESSAGE ONLY PUT:unsubscribe" First of all thanks. Now the 11th of November I sen this: "unsubs

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-14 Thread Ron Johnson
[Top-posting because Don's post is so long.] While I generally agree with you, a couple of disagreements: 1. It won't be a theocracy. 2. If drop-out rates increased exponentially, they'd "hit" 100% very soon. Rather, say "ignorance rates are increasing at an alarming rate". On Fri, 2003-1

Re: Geological tracking application

2003-11-14 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Friday 14 November 2003 20:41, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Is anyone aware of Linux-based application capable of proving visual > geographical tracking? > > To be more specific: > We are a fishing company.  Every daily we receive reports from our > vessels about their location, water temp and depth,

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