Harvesting list members for direct sales pitches

2003-10-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
Someone, I'll call him Jeff, sent a sales pitch to me as a reply to list mail. I've already responded directly. Strongly negatively. Because he actually has participated meaningfully on list topics in the past, I'm not treating him as a 100% spammer, but the behavior is _not_ acceptable. This i

Re: Mailing list question

2003-10-02 Thread Lukas Ruf
> Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-03 03:35]: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:59:46PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > I want to setup a real basic mailing list for the users in my lab. > > There are only about 10 of us, so I would like to do something > > /etc/aliases. Is this poss

Re: Recommendations for donated machines

2003-10-02 Thread Lukas Ruf
> Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 21:47]: > > Hello D-u's, > I need a recommendation for some donated machines. Here are the specs: > P I/75 32MB 2GB > (may upgrade memory to 64/96MB) > (also may try cpu upgrade.) > Which version of Debian (or possibly Slackware) would work? > Kernel 2

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread Sacha Chua
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> How about a trigger in the database that runs the script ? I never >> tried it, but it should work > Of all things, however, I would really appreciate if there existed > a mailing list manager that can do what I need. Hmm. What's the bigger problem?

serialport problems

2003-10-02 Thread ZekeVarg
I'm running debian-sid and I have a old Camedia digitalcamera that connects through the serial port. When I try to download pictures from it with gphoto, digikam or use wine to run the program that came along with the camera the camera isen't reconiced most of the time and some times the first p

Re: gv segfaulting

2003-10-02 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:50:48AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: | tried to get the latest gv yesterday, apt-get said that it was the | newest (but segfaulting, of course). Correct. | Why didn't the package retrieve xaw3dg? Insufficient version in the dependency: Package: gv Version: 1:3.5.8-30.

Re: NTP wont work as box is at 1980.

2003-10-02 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:28:12PM +0100, Ben Edwards wrote: > > On my laptop, I've added the -g switch to ntpd's startup, so the first > > time it syncs, it forcibly resets to the NTP time if that's out of > > bounds. Doing this involved editing /etc/init.d/ntp-simple and adding > > '-- -g' to th

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-02 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:18:38AM +0800, csj wrote: > At Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:09:56 +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > ISTR from http://www.ftdi.com - who make USB-to-some-easier-format > > conversion chips - the answer is 'something straightforward'. Long > > time since I looked at the site though. Chances a

Re: yahoo wants to save cookies at /

2003-10-02 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:35:11PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: | Unable to open mail.yahoo.com in konqueror as non root for the simple fact | that yahoo wants to dump some cookies at / (root) directory for which I have | no permissions. Anybody experience this stra

Re: Adding a user with a dot (.) in his name: How?

2003-10-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 03:58:55AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:41 +0100, > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:58:38PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote

Automated delayed installation of security updates - Any thoughts on how to do?

2003-10-02 Thread Nick Jenson
Hello, I'm looking for a way to automatically install security updates on a webserver, but with a twist - that the installation should be delayed a few days. My reasoning for wanting this is based on these assumptions: * The Internet is an extremely hostile network. * New security flaws are alwa

Re: printer icon

2003-10-02 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:00:23 +0200, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > You'll notice that many of these 1- or 2-liners are very general, with > many possible ways of diagnosing/solving the problem. I believe that > this is to increase the number of replies from helpful PeeCee users who > think "finally -

Re: Procmail: "Error while writing to..." bash script

2003-10-02 Thread Tom
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:00:19PM -0700, Tom wrote: [ferget it -- I found the magic flag "i" for the recipe that says ignore write errors --- sorry for the noise] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Procmail: "Error while writing to..." bash script

2003-10-02 Thread Tom
My .procmailrc pipes certain messages to a bash script that just certain sound files based on the arguments passed. The script doesn't read stdin. I noticed lots of "Error while writing to..." in the procmaillog, and the manpage says this means can't write to file or pipe terminated early. S

libc6

2003-10-02 Thread Oki DZ
Hi, Would it be allright to install the latest (ie: today's) libc6? Thanks in advance, Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

2003-10-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical That's how I always got to unstable. I do recommend stripping down to just the base install before trying it if you want everythin

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:21:39PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > I don't know but this seems like overkill. Does mounting home noexec > mean that I can't run programs for /home/. Yep, that's what it means. Things located in the partition mounted at /home are not allowed to be executed (thoug

Re: Executing a Script every hour

2003-10-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:04:04AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > Ah. Well, that's for stuff that has to be run even when the machine's > > down. > > I'd love to be able to run stuff when my machine's down. :-) What did > you actually mean? Anacron runs c

Re: Ruby and Emacs support problem

2003-10-02 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:27:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to install ruby support into xemacs21. I > > installed the ruby-elisp package and I still don't > > have ruby support in emacs. Has anyone experienced

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:39:50PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:27:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > ScruLoose writes: > > > > But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances > > > that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P > > > > It's not a c

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:46:56 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > "Monique Y. Herman" wrote: >> >> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:47:02 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: >> > Mike Mueller wrote: >> >> >> >... >> > Similarly, executable formats like Java, which has a comprehensive >> >

Re: how to build Debian 2.4.20, -21, or -22 kernel package for woody?

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Daniel B. wrote: I'm a little confused about kernel package names in unstable. What is: kernel-image-2.4-k7-smp 2.4.22-2 (6.1k) Linux kernel image for version 2.4 on AMD K7 SMP. vs. kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7-smp 2.4.22-2 (11490.8k) Linux kernel image for version 2.4.22 on AMD

Re: xinerama ideas

2003-10-02 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But another use is one user with xinerama. Since I usually sit 17 inches off the tube, I find looking at the other tube, which is 31 inches away, not easy. What in the world would I use xinerama for? Not having had it, being small-minded, now I can't think of a use of it. An

Re: Ruby and Emacs support problem

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:27:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install ruby support into xemacs21. I > installed the ruby-elisp package and I still don't > have ruby support in emacs. Has anyone experienced > this problem? Should I have installed another > package?

Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Bijan Soleymani wrote: So you mean that Personal, School and Trash are files? That would indicate than they are standard mbox files. Maildir format doesn't work that way. With maildir each mailbox *is* a folder, with three standard subfolders: new (for new message), cur (for old messages), tmp (I

Re: how to build Debian 2.4.20, -21, or -22 kernel package for woody?

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:40:09 +0200, Daniel B. wrote: > > > What exactly do I need to do to build locally for woody a Debian kernel > > package based on a kernel version from testing or unstable? > > (1) ... > (2) ... > ... Oooh. Details. Cool. Thanks. I'm a lit

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:27:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > ScruLoose writes: > > But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances > > that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P > > It's not a complete solution. It's just another layer of defense. This is entirel

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread John Hasler
ScruLoose writes: > But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances > that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P It's not a complete solution. It's just another layer of defense. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To

Re: Executing a Script every hour

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:04:04AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:55:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:15:19PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > anacron. > > > > > > cron and anacron solve similar problems but with a different approach > > >

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Re: Executing a Script every hour

2003-10-02 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:55:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:15:19PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > anacron. > > > > cron and anacron solve similar problems but with a different approach > > based on different requirements. The two are not mutually exclusive

Re: pppd daemon

2003-10-02 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:34:36PM -0800, J Y wrote: > I spent some time reading pppd man8 and after experimenting with > /etc/ppp/options I found that commenting out the "connect" line gave > me > an appearance of kppp connecting. By-the-way I have checked permissions > and they seem to be ok.

Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:38:55PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:03:52PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > >>Juri Haberland wrote: > >> > >> > >>>And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs. > >>> > >> > >>That is s

Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:03:52PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Juri Haberland wrote: And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs. That is simply not true: $ apt-show-versions |grep uw-imap uw-imapd-ssl/stable uptodate 4:2001adebian-6 $ ls ~/m

Re: Adding a user with a dot (.) in his name: How?

2003-10-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:41 +0100, "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:58:38PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > For compatibility reasons, I need to add a user with a dot (.)

Re: gv segfaulting

2003-10-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:55:25PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv, > it segfaulted. Then I ran gv without any filename and got this message: > > $ gv > Warning: Representation size 2 must match superclass's to

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
"Monique Y. Herman" wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:47:02 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > > Mike Mueller wrote: > >> > >... > > Similarly, executable formats like Java, which has a comprehensive > > security model, would be better if you ever really did need to deliver > > executa

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:04:48PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In fact, just this week, I am engaged with a prominent software > > development company, and every one of the developers develops on > > various Linux boxen, and every one of them ins

Re: Mailing list question

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:59:46PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > I want to setup a real basic mailing list for the users in my lab. > There are only about 10 of us, so I would like to do something > /etc/aliases. Is this possible? Do all the users need to have local > accounts where the mail

Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:03:52PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Juri Haberland wrote: > > > > >And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs. > > > That is simply not true: > > $ apt-show-versions |grep uw-imap > uw-imapd-ssl/stable uptodate 4:2001adebian-6 > $ ls ~/ma

Re: X On Woody With nVidia GeForce4 Fails After Upgrade

2003-10-02 Thread John Hasler
Martin Jungowski writes: > I don't know about XFree 4.2 but there is a XFree 4.3 backport. You can > find the information (amnong lots of other backports) here: > http://www.debianforum.de/wiki/WoodyBackports Thank you. I'll have the client install 4.2 from there as soon as he gets back from out

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:42:28AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > E.g.: there are _good_, _solid_ reasons Debian doesn't allow Mozilla to > run as root, why X11 TCP connections are disabled by default, and why > SSH is strongly recommended. Yes, it's possible to override or ignore > these settin

Re: e1000 cannot bring up intel pro/1000 MT interface

2003-10-02 Thread Praveen Kallakuri
David Z Maze wrote: Praveen Kallakuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: i have a dell precision 360 with an Intel® PRO/1000 MT Gigabit6 Ethernet LOM. i learned that e1000 is the driver and got it by compiling kernel 2.4.22. i inserted aprop entries in /etc/network/interfaces and in modutils/ and update

Re: NIS updating question

2003-10-02 Thread Jon Masters
Neal Lippman wrote: I use nis on my LAN for storing passwd, group, hosts, services, etc, information. I need to update the hosts file with new ip addresses. Is there an command or easy way to propagate updated host information to the NIS database, or do I just use ypinit and rebuild the whoe databa

Re: Statically linked bash

2003-10-02 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:41:53AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have bash that runs by itself; is there any such shell > somewhere in the Internet that I can download? There's a package called bash-static. That is a statically compiled version of bash. You could also download the so

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

2003-10-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:36:06PM -0500, Michael D Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:04:44:28-0500] scribed: > > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:17, ScruLoose wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > > > "Karsten M.

Replace HDD

2003-10-02 Thread Joyce, Matthew
Hi, I have an old pc running Debian Woody and I have 2 questions. Firstly, the hard drive ios quite old and become quite noisy, I suspect it is on the way out. What is the easiest way to replace it ? It only have 2 partions, one of them a swap. The new drive is slightly bigger. Secondly, compl

Re: Upgrading from stable

2003-10-02 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:50:28PM +, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:38:49 +0100, Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > > Hi all, > > > > I think I'm ready to upgrade my main desktop machine from stable. > > I've been running stable (with an XF4.3 backport) for months

NIS updating question

2003-10-02 Thread Neal Lippman
I use nis on my LAN for storing passwd, group, hosts, services, etc, information. I need to update the hosts file with new ip addresses. Is there an command or easy way to propagate updated host information to the NIS database, or do I just use ypinit and rebuild the whoe database? Thanks. nl

Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Juri Haberland wrote: And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs. That is simply not true: $ apt-show-versions |grep uw-imap uw-imapd-ssl/stable uptodate 4:2001adebian-6 $ ls ~/mail/ Fall 2003 Personal School Trash You may also want to look at courier-imapd, which

Mailing list question

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I want to setup a real basic mailing list for the users in my lab. There are only about 10 of us, so I would like to do something /etc/aliases. Is this possible? Do all the users need to have local accounts where the mail gets delivered? or can I just do something like this: list: billy, bob

Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

2003-10-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical > > > > It's not significantly more radical than stable

Re: Upgrading from stable

2003-10-02 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:38:49 +0100, Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > Hi all, > > I think I'm ready to upgrade my main desktop machine from stable. > I've been running stable (with an XF4.3 backport) for months now with > no problems. Only thing is, I'm starting to run into too many pac

Re: newbie needs help.........

2003-10-02 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:20:10 +0200, Zakaria wrote: > Hey I was trying to buy Debian Cd instead of downloading debian... A very good idea actually :-) > but they have for different Architectures Alpha ; ARM ; HPPA ; i386 ; > IA-64 ; m68k ; MIPS ; PowerPC ; S/390 ; Sparc ; source ; Hurd-i386 ; >

Re: does debian xfree support my video?

2003-10-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
VEGH Karoly wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:08:23AM -0600, skippi wrote: Greetings all. I have acquired a new motherboard. It's an Intel D865GBF. The onboard video controller is Intel Extreme Graphics 2, 82865G Graphics and Memory Controller Hub, 865G chipset. Is this supported under the X

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:43:51PM -0400, Dan Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Please share this knowledge. What executables are you awaree of > > affecting non-Microsoft systems which are in general circulation and > > which auto-execute on receipt by arbitrary systems in stock > > configu

Re: Statically linked bash

2003-10-02 Thread Rus Foster
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Oki DZ wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to have bash that runs by itself; is there any such shell > somewhere in the Internet that I can download? > > Thanks in advance, > Oki Look at installing sash sash - Stand-alone shell. That is statically linked + has a few inbuilt commands

RE: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> > Well, a virus like Swen wouldn't need root access to spread. I don't > know what Swen does to a Windows machine (and I don't care, I haven't > got any), but just to annoy people with enormous amounts of e-mail, > someone could imageinebly write a perl script with its own > SMTP-engine. >

cdrecord errors

2003-10-02 Thread Antony Gelberg
Hi all, I'm going through some CD ripping with cdrecord, and grip. I get quite a few tracks that cause problems - the face goes sad, and the speed goes down incredibly low. I also get things like: scsi_read error: sector=103276 length=6 retry=1 Sense key: 5 ASC: 64 ASCQ: 0

Re: Abiword

2003-10-02 Thread Oki DZ
I'd like to add something. After looking into the ps files, it seems that the print to file feature doesn't embed the fonts into the output; even if the embed font check box was checked. Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: gv segfaulting

2003-10-02 Thread Oki DZ
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:04:24PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > Looked at the bts for gv. Found that xaw3dg has to be upgraded to the > version in unstable. Did that and gv is working fine. Hey, thanks a lot, it's working now. I had been looking for this solution since yesterday. It was pretty str

RE: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 8:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses > > > "Jamin W. Collins" wrote: > > .." > > > > Aye, but you do have backups right?

Statically linked bash

2003-10-02 Thread Oki DZ
Hi, I'd like to have bash that runs by itself; is there any such shell somewhere in the Internet that I can download? Thanks in advance, Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PHP4 in Unstable

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Is it safe to upgrade to PHP4 4.3.2+rc3-6 from unstable yet (running latest unstable Apache 1.3)? Or should I stay with 4.1.2-6woody3? Last time I tried - I had MAJOR problems. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Upgrading from stable

2003-10-02 Thread Antony Gelberg
Hi all, I think I'm ready to upgrade my main desktop machine from stable. I've been running stable (with an XF4.3 backport) for months now with no problems. Only thing is, I'm starting to run into too many packages where I do need new features and fixes. I'm tempted to go straight to unstable -

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:59:34 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > "Jamin W. Collins" wrote: >> .." >> >> Aye, but you do have backups right? Are your backup locations >> accessible as mounted file systems where your user has ready read/write >> access to them? I would certainly hope no

Debugging CUPS problems

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Moseley
CUPS is one of those things I installed and it just works. Or did. I'm looking for advice on debgging why I can't print from my laptop (which has worked in the past). I have a printer on "bumby" that works -- I can easily print using lpt or from applications. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lpstat

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:47:02 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > Mike Mueller wrote: >> >> It seems that the safest form of information push is >> unformatted text. > > Wouldn't it be sufficient to limit the formats to those that don't have > the expressive power to command the

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2323 +0200]: > what if someone hits send to unsubscribe while their smtp server > is recieving an email from the list. i guess you are right. maybe i also just wanted a clean solution... i hate patchwork. > mysql doesn't support triggers last time

diacritics revisited

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
[I am going back to this issue, new thread for simplicity] I have three systems, and I want to enter diacritic characters (e.g. ä) into the X terminals. However, this only works on one of the three machines although they are configured identically wrt software and settings. At least I think so, an

Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

2003-10-02 Thread Johann-Hartwig Hauschild
Zitat von Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:29:08PM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote: > > For one thing, dpkg-buildpackage won't work - it won't build the > > dependancies. > > I think I meant something more like "could we see a transcript of what > you're doing

xinerama ideas

2003-10-02 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi all! I have 2 monitors with each keyboard/mouse and I use them with Backstreet Ruby to have 2 users use the one Debian system. But another use is one user with xinerama. Since I usually sit 17 inches off the tube, I find looking at the other tube, which is 31 inches away, not easy. What in the

Re: NTP wont work as box is at 1980.

2003-10-02 Thread Ben Edwards
> On my laptop, I've added the -g switch to ntpd's startup, so the first > time it syncs, it forcibly resets to the NTP time if that's out of > bounds. Doing this involved editing /etc/init.d/ntp-simple and adding > '-- -g' to the end of the start-stop-daemon lines that start ntpd. This is defini

Re: mailing list

2003-10-02 Thread Richard Kimber
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:01:15 -0400 Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:47:08PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: > | Has this mailing list had problems in the last couple of days? > | > | Yesterday I found I was not receiving any messages. Today I > | discover

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread Tom
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:18:19PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2238 +0200]: > > Well, are you _sure_ you can run a cron every minute? I mean, > > seriously, have you tried it? Depending on your situation, it > > might not be that bad.

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
Ron Johnson wrote: >... > > BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable attachments by > > clicking on them? > > None, now. What exactly do you mean? Doesn't much e-mail software support opening attachments, and isn't that opening configurable (if not in the e-mail client, th

Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

2003-10-02 Thread Tom
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical > > > > It's not significantly more radical than stable

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
Alan Shutko wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... > > And a click-thru virus (or is it really a trojan?) can only do > > damage to files that you have privs to touch (unless there's a bug > > in Java or JavaScript). > > ... But just saying "A virus > can't hurt a user unless i

Re: newbie needs help.........

2003-10-02 Thread Kent West
Zakaria wrote: Hey I was trying to buy Debian Cd instead of downloading debian... but they have for different Architectures Alpha ; ARM ; HPPA ; i386 ; IA-64 ; m68k ; MIPS ; PowerPC ; S/390 ; Sparc ; source ; Hurd-i386 ; Hurd-source ... I'm getting Debian for my VIA EPIA M1, Would that woul

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
"Jamin W. Collins" wrote: > .." > > Aye, but you do have backups right? Are your backup locations > accessible as mounted file systems where your user has ready read/write > access to them? I would certainly hope not. Do you backups every day? Every minute? Every instant? If not, the user'

Re: kernel-package build, is this a problem

2003-10-02 Thread stan
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:43:06PM +0200, Werner Mahr wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2003 18:32 schrieben Sie: > > > make-kpkg modules_image > > > > Shouldn't that create a .deb for the modules, that I need to dpkg > > -i? If so, I can't seem t

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel B.
Mike Mueller wrote: > > It seems that the safest form of information push is > unformatted text. Wouldn't it be sufficient to limit the formats to those that don't have the expressive power to command the receiver to do arbitrary things? For example, HTML can't hijack a browser (or HTM

Help here

2003-10-02 Thread Zakaria
I send a message about this but i didn't receive any replyplease send your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm about to buy a Debian OS CD but i don't know which one... for VIA EPIA M1, is it i386 one or some other one Please help out __ Do you Yahoo!? The

Re: newbie needs help.........

2003-10-02 Thread John Spray
Zakaria wrote: I'm getting Debian for my VIA EPIA M1, Would that would be i386? i know it is but i just wanna make sure that the right CD to buy thanks for your help Yes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: modconf under 2.6.0-testn

2003-10-02 Thread Matt Price
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 05:55:46PM +0200, Bjoern Paetzel wrote: > Nick Hastings wrote: > > >>I have been unable to get modconf to work under 2.6.0-test2 or -test4. > >>The program runs, but shows only the "exit" option, with no modules > >>displayed for selecting. Has anyone else seen this sort of

Connection with pppd?

2003-10-02 Thread J Y
Hello All, On the advice of those more expert, about this site, I am starting a new thread. Anyway the problem has changed. I have looked at permissions on the /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net file. I didn't copy that file ( I'm switching back and forth from SuSE to debian). (I need a common /home?) B

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2238 +0200]: > Well, are you _sure_ you can run a cron every minute? I mean, > seriously, have you tried it? Depending on your situation, it > might not be that bad. Or every 5 minutes, even? The system is heavily loaded, so 5 minutes wo

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2245 +0200]: > How about a trigger in the database that runs the script ? I never > tried it, but it should work That's an interesting idea. Of all things, however, I would really appreciate if there existed a mailing list manager that ca

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread Ray
On Thursday 02 October 2003 15:11, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2156 +0200]: > > remove_members --all mylist > > mysql -h localhost -e "SELECT email from people" mydb | \ > > add_members -n - -c n -w n mylist > > I know about the script pos

newbie needs help.........

2003-10-02 Thread Zakaria
Hey I was trying to buy Debian Cd instead of downloading debian... but they have for different Architectures Alpha ; ARM ; HPPA ; i386 ; IA-64 ; m68k ; MIPS ; PowerPC ; S/390 ; Sparc ; source ; Hurd-i386 ; Hurd-source ... I'm getting Debian for my VIA EPIA M1, Would that would be i386? i k

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Alan Shutko
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can an email virus work on *ix? How does it work on Windows? Either convince the user to click on a link, or exploit a bug in the MUA. When it has code running, scan the user's address book and mail archives, and send out lots of email. Include you

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:11:15PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2156 +0200]: > > remove_members --all mylist > > mysql -h localhost -e "SELECT email from people" mydb | \ > > add_members -n - -c n -w n mylist > > I know about the scr

Re: mailing list

2003-10-02 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:47:08PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: | Has this mailing list had problems in the last couple of days? | | Yesterday I found I was not receiving any messages. Today I discovered I | was not subscribed, even though I had not unsubscribed myself. More likely your account

Re: Debian for Joe Average

2003-10-02 Thread Edward Murrell
Ben, this is generally directed at the whole thread, but I had to reply to someone. It's going to be Debian. For a variety of reasons, Xandros and Libranet are not really doable. The problem is not the install. I'll be doing that, and I'm well capable of doing so. The question is which packages.

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread Mark Ferlatte
martin f krafft said on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:11:15PM +0200: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2156 +0200]: > > remove_members --all mylist > > mysql -h localhost -e "SELECT email from people" mydb | \ > > add_members -n - -c n -w n mylist > > I know about the scrip

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:24:21PM -0500, Ray wrote: > > i personally have not seen an email virus work on *ix, but as far as > damage, you normally don't need full root access to destroy a box for > a user. after all, most people keep their work in places that they > can work on them (read+write

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.02.2156 +0200]: > remove_members --all mylist > mysql -h localhost -e "SELECT email from people" mydb | \ > add_members -n - -c n -w n mylist I know about the script possibility, but what then if someone unsubscribes from the mailinglist

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-02 Thread Ray
On Thursday 02 October 2003 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote: > How can an email virus work on *ix? > > And a click-thru virus (or is it really a trojan?) can only do > damage to files that you have privs to touch (unless there's a bug > in Java or JavaScript). > i personally have not seen an email virus

Re: Recommendations for donated machines

2003-10-02 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 02 October 2003 21:44, Kevin Mark wrote: > P I/75 32MB 2GB > (may upgrade memory to 64/96MB) > (also may try cpu upgrade.) > Which version of Debian (or possibly Slackware) would work? > Kernel 2.2 or 2.4, X 4 or 3, Abiword, gnumeric or OO? KDE, Gnome, > XFCE or ? Or anything that would

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-02 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:23:45 -0500, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >>On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:17:23 -0400, ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>penned: >> > Granted, I've only tried to use the runas command 7 or 10 times, but as far > as I can remember, it has _never

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