Hello All, On the advice of those more expert, about this site, I am starting a new thread. Anyway the problem has changed. I have looked at permissions on the /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net file. I didn't copy that file ( I'm switching back and forth from SuSE to debian). (I need a common /home?) But for the above file everyone: u g o has x-execute privledge. Doing whoami ; grep dip /etc/group got the reponse: dip:x:30:john. I'm john. Let me describe the present situation. Now when I use kppp to dial out there are no error messages. The kppp statistics box shows a graph what appears to be connection and the virtual modem lights flash. I thought that this was a false connection because lynx reported that it couldn't connect and mozilla also couldn't find any url's typed or clicked on from the debian local page. But when I opened a terminal and did poff kppd (which was running gave me a pppd died message and a long list (which follows) of what had gone on from the start of connection. Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: pppd 2.4.1 started by john, uid 1000 Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: using channel 2 Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: Using interface ppp0 Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS4 Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x30227d1c> <pcomp> <accomp>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00> <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <mrru 1524> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:a0]> < 1b 04 02 02>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00> <mrru 1524> < 1b 04 02 02>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x30227d1c> <pcomp> <accomp>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:a0]>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:a0]>] Oct 2 16:46:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1 <04ea9f5ef1e72e33044ab04ef95acd9f>, name = "nas1.alb1.Level3.net"] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x1 <038976a54a50db1fce56bfa0a4604571>, name = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x1 "\000"] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: Remote message: ^@ Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01> <ms-dns1 0.0.0.0> <ms-dns3 0.0.0.0>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15> <deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 63.215.27.33>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 63.215.27.33>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 <addr 67.75.62.186> <ms-dns1 209.244.0.3> <ms-dns3 209.244.0.4>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <addr 67.75.62.186> <compress VJ 0f 01> <ms-dns1 209.244.0.3> <ms-dns3 209.244.0.4>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <addr 67.75.62.186> <compress VJ 0f 01> <ms-dns1 209.244.0.3> <ms-dns3 209.244.0.4>] Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: local IP address 67.75.62.186 Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: remote IP address 63.215.27.33 Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: primary DNS address 209.244.0.3 Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: secondary DNS address 209.244.0.4 Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 1599) Oct 2 16:46:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1599), status = 0x1 Oct 2 16:46:34 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:46:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:47:04 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:47:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:47:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:47:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:48:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:48:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x4 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:48:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x5 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:48:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x5 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:49:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x6 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:49:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x6 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:49:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x7 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:49:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x7 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:50:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x8 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:50:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x8 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:50:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x9 magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:50:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x9 magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:51:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xa magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:51:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xa magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:51:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xb magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:51:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xb magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:52:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:52:05 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xc magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:52:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xd magic=0x30227d1c] Oct 2 16:52:35 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xd magic=0x0] Oct 2 16:52:46 deblnx pppd[1558]: Terminating on signal 15. Oct 2 16:52:46 deblnx pppd[1558]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 1694) Oct 2 16:52:46 deblnx pppd[1558]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "User request"] Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Connection terminated. Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Connect time 6.7 minutes. Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Sent 3119 bytes, received 3698 bytes. Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Waiting for 1 child processes... Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: script /etc/ppp/ip-down, pid 1694 Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 1694), status = 0x0 Oct 2 16:52:47 deblnx pppd[1558]: Exit. There is something in the log file about ethernet of course I am using a modem and dial-up. Perhaps this will give enough info for someone to help me help myself. I am going back to look at it again for awhile. the responses help because it gets me to look at other things. Thanks very much. JY
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