Re: mutt: GPG sign and encrypt

2003-03-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:07:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > The example fragments in /usr/share/doc/mutt/gpg.rc for gpg encrypt & > sign fail horribly in reality with... > > Invoking PGP... > usage: gpg [options] --sign --encrypt [filename] > Press any key to continue... > > Has anybody found

Re: LWN: Ptrace vulnerability in 2.2 and 2.4 kernels

2003-03-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:38:41PM +, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 03:54, Rob Weir wrote: > > No, that is odd. Another short-term fix is to > > 'echo SaveMeJeebus > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe', which disables the > > module loading that is part of the problem. > > Does that m

Re: mutt: GPG sign and encrypt

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Paul Johnson: > The example fragments in /usr/share/doc/mutt/gpg.rc for gpg encrypt & > sign fail horribly in reality with... > > Invoking PGP... > usage: gpg [options] --sign --encrypt [filename] > Press any key to continue... > > Has anybody found a fix for this? What about the defa

Re: Problems getting Samba to work

2003-03-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David E. Meiser wrote: I am attempting to build a media server, using samba to transfer files to the media server from my Windows XP box and am unable to logon to the media server. I am able to get to the media server and view the open shares, but I'm unable to get to the shared files themselves (

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 00:39, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:55:36PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > Yep - I pulled an iso of it from ftp.leo.org, burned it to a cd, and > > then realised that it was too big for the 700 MB CDs I have here (as was > > 3.1) and none of the local stor

Re: mutt: GPG sign and encrypt

2003-03-29 Thread Phil Reynolds
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:07:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > The example fragments in /usr/share/doc/mutt/gpg.rc for gpg encrypt & > sign fail horribly in reality with... > > Invoking PGP... > usage: gpg [options] --sign --encrypt [filename]

Re: How to reply to a message in the archives without breaking thread

2003-03-29 Thread Eduardo
---Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:44:46PM +, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > > I sent a message to the list recently which I stupidly deleted. I would > > like to reply to it and have found it in the archives. I would like to > > reply to this message without breaking the thre

mutt: GPG sign and encrypt

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The example fragments in /usr/share/doc/mutt/gpg.rc for gpg encrypt & sign fail horribly in reality with... Invoking PGP... usage: gpg [options] --sign --encrypt [filename] Press any key to continue... Has anybody found a fix for this? - -- .''`.

Re: How to reply to a message in the archives without breaking thread

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:44:46PM +, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > I sent a message to the list recently which I stupidly deleted. I would > like to reply to it and have found it in the archives. I would like to > reply to this message without breaking

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:55:36PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Yep - I pulled an iso of it from ftp.leo.org, burned it to a cd, and > then realised that it was too big for the 700 MB CDs I have here (as was > 3.1) and none of the local stores have th

Re: Debian's release support policy

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:35:14PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > OK, I went and checked my facts. Potato was released on 14 August 2000. > On 14 September 2000, an announcement was made that support would be > discontinued on 30 September 2000 [1], toge

Re: How do I "apt-get upgrade" the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On 30 Mar 2003 00:11:39 -0500 Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kernels are special in debian since you have to reboot for them to > take effect. apt-cache search kernel-image should show you all the > kernels avaliable. Choose one and apt-get install it making sure your > boot loader re

Re: How do I "apt-get upgrade" the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:17:43 -0800 (PST) Peter Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am running stable debian-390 under the hercules > emulator on an RH7.3 base system, and the debian-390 > kernel is 2.4.17-s390. I have set up my sources.list > to add the testing release, but neither apt-get > up

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:57:24PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > You've commented twice (or more) about this and he/she has yet to defend > themself... Do they have to ?? No, I realize they don't. Do they even > read this list and see Paul's message ?

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:46:52PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > Are you suggesting that I go ahead and set this up at my end? I did for a while. > I suppose I could do that... though my intent was to try and sell the > idea to the listmasters and have i

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread Scott Henson
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 19:06, Petr Simon wrote: > Please help! > I did it many times , but now I made some silly mistake and I can't boot > my fresly compiled kernel. I can boot Debian default 2.4.18-k7, but I > wanted 2.4.20 from source and it doesn't seem to work. What I did is: > untar it > ln

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:46:17PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Now, imagine calling tech support for major router vendor C, J, or N; > or calling tech support for a tier 1 provider. If you can quickly > demonstrate that you have a clue, you get lu

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:21:15AM -0900, Andy wrote: > > 1) Debian system itself > > * Update your system constantly with security fixes > > * configure system by following harden-doc package instruction or its > >latest information at > >http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian

Re: How do I "apt-get upgrade" the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-29 Thread Scott Henson
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 23:17, Peter Farley wrote: > I am running stable debian-390 under the hercules > emulator on an RH7.3 base system, and the debian-390 > kernel is 2.4.17-s390. I have set up my sources.list > to add the testing release, but neither apt-get > upgrade nor dpkg -l seem to have an

Re: [OT] History of debian-user footer.

2003-03-29 Thread Cam Ellison
* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Cam Ellison wrote: > > As I remind my clients frequently, when I refuse to recommend a > > candidate: half the population is below average. > > Do any of your clients ever remind you that the mean is not the median? Most of them probably understand the

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:18:47PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:01:09PM -0800, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Dude :-) > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:07:08PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > The video is something I've never seen, though there's an adapt

Re: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Lindsay" == Lindsay Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lindsay> G'day all, What is the standard printer configuration Lindsay> tool used by debian 3 r0. I'm trying to install a printer Lindsay> but the documentation is not helping me at all. If I Lindsay> could find the confi

Re: dsl problem on Mac ibook with Debian PPC 2.4.x

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:43:58 -0500 Brad Tilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the errors that I see in /var/log/ppp-connect-errors: > > pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP) Input/output error > pppoe: Timeout waiting for PADO packets > > Here's what shows up in /var/log/messages: > > Mar 30 01:0

How do I "apt-get upgrade" the kernel for debian-390?

2003-03-29 Thread Peter Farley
I am running stable debian-390 under the hercules emulator on an RH7.3 base system, and the debian-390 kernel is 2.4.17-s390. I have set up my sources.list to add the testing release, but neither apt-get upgrade nor dpkg -l seem to have anything for the kernel itself. Is the kernel not upgradeabl

Re: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:02:37 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: > However most people are recommending cupsys as the best server for > standalone systems for new folks. That is probably the best place for > you to start. > > apt-cache show cupsys > apt-get install cupsys Also insta

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:46:34 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and yes ... 1024 doesn't mean anything anymore ...but people still > create a partition for /boot... whats the point ?? > /boot partition was to make sure the kernel resided below > the silly 1024 cylinde

RE: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Lindsay Yardley
G'day Bob, Patrick, others, Thank you for your reply but cups seems rather bloated and fickle,I wanted the one installed by the default debian tasksel option is that lpr, lprng or gnulpr? or is one of these or another rather nice & compact and sufficient? tia Lindsay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-29 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:43:06AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On the other hand, and it's been said in this thread before (by me and > others), you make it clear you want to tell people what they want/need and > expect them to accept your decisions and like what you give them. Oh, come on... gi

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't believe 1024 cylinders means anything. That was a limitations of > older BIOSes and older versions of lilo. if i remember correctly.. his / is on /dev/hda6 ... which could be over the 1024 boundry... we donno what hw (mb/bios) he has ... an

dsl problem on Mac ibook with Debian PPC 2.4.x

2003-03-29 Thread Brad Tilley
I have a brand new (2 days old) Macintosh ibook 700Mhz G3 PPC processor with 128MB RAM and a 40GB hdd. I've installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 stable with the 2.4.x series kernel that came with it, Mac OS 9/10 and NetBSD on this machine. All of the OSes work as expected except for my home dsl Internet

RE:Programing Question

2003-03-29 Thread Harley D. Eades III
One more thing, I have been reading http://people.redhat.com/twaugh/parport/html/parportguide.html (The Linux 2.4 Parallel Port Subsystem) it seems to help alittle. Well thanks. hde perl -e '$word="\n!REKCAH UNG REHTONA TSUJ";print($string = reverse $word);' OUTPUT: J

Re: Programing Question

2003-03-29 Thread Harley D. Eades III
Pigeon wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:09:44AM -0600, Harley D. Eades III wrote: Hello, This might be off topic, but I hope someone can answer a question for me. Is there any documentation on parport.h parport_pc.h. I seem to get err's when I try to use either of them. Do you have to lin

Re: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Bob Proulx
I am going to put your messages in chronological order. > What is the standard printer configuration tool used by debian 3 > r0. I'm trying to install a printer but the documentation is not > helping me at all. If I could find the config tool name that'd be a > start, perhaps then the Printing How

sound none-sound blaster pci512(help)pls

2003-03-29 Thread chris parker
Relevant snips: lspci: 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) lsmod: emu10k154120 0 (unused) ac97_codec 9800

Re: pxelinux boot isn't loading woody kernel

2003-03-29 Thread Susan Kleinmann
Hi Norman, Thanks for your quick reply. Following your suggestion, I verified that the IP address being used by the Shuttle XPC was not already in use, so that wasn't the problem. Further investigation shows that the woody kernel doesn't work with the Shuttle. I don't know whether the problem i

Re: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 at 11:46am, Lindsay Yardley wrote: :G'day all, :What is the standard printer configuration tool used by debian 3 r0. I'm :trying to install a printer but the documentation is not helping me at :all. If I could find the config tool name that'd be a start, perhaps :then the Print

RE: What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Lindsay Yardley
Is it lpr, lprng or gnulpr? also how can I determine what packages are already installed, apart from trying each one. tia Lindsay | G'day all, | What is the standard printer configuration tool used by | debian 3 r0. I'm | trying to install a printer but the documentation is not | helping me at

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:58:42 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - if you build all the drivers into 2.4.20.. > - you do NOT need initrd > - unless you have / and/or /boot spans more than 1024 cylinders I don't believe 1024 cylinders means anything. That was a limitatio

What's the std print config tool

2003-03-29 Thread Lindsay Yardley
G'day all, What is the standard printer configuration tool used by debian 3 r0. I'm trying to install a printer but the documentation is not helping me at all. If I could find the config tool name that'd be a start, perhaps then the Printing HowTo will make more sense. tia Lindsay --- Outgoing mail

Re: missing GTK2 theme in debian

2003-03-29 Thread christophe barbe
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 05:19:51PM -0500, christophe barbe wrote: > Le sam 29/03/2003 ? 17:12, Samat Jain a ?crit : > > That theme is Redhat's 'Bluecurve', or called 'Wonderland' in non-Redhat > > distributions. > > > > I don't know if there's a Debian package, but you may want to search for > >

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Petr Simon wrote: > Please help! > I did it many times , but now I made some silly mistake and I can't boot > my fresly compiled kernel. I can boot Debian default 2.4.18-k7, but I > wanted 2.4.20 from source and it doesn't seem to work. What I did is: what is the symptho

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread Christian Schoenebeck
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:06:28 +0800 Petr Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please help! > I did it many times , but now I made some silly mistake and I can't boot > my fresly compiled kernel. I can boot Debian default 2.4.18-k7, but I > wanted 2.4.20 from source and it doesn't seem to work. What

Re: Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:06:28 +0800 Petr Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please help! > I did it many times , but now I made some silly mistake and I can't > boot my fresly compiled kernel. I can boot Debian default 2.4.18-k7, > but I I'm guessing (since you didn't say what the boot error mess

Re: Should I upgrade my kernel?

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:04:22 -0500 "Roberto Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am running Woody with 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel. I am wondering if I > should bother upgrading my kernel? If there is no point to upgrading > now, what should I look for that will make it worthwhile? I realize > this

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:42:19 -0500 Stephan Sauerburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and > reconfiguring it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not > having to completely redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be > most preferred.

Re: [OT] History of debian-user footer.

2003-03-29 Thread ronin2
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:48:31 -0600 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do any of your clients ever remind you that the mean is not the > median? Do any of yours remind you that the median is an "average"? Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Kernel compile - kernel panaic at boot

2003-03-29 Thread Petr Simon
Please help! I did it many times , but now I made some silly mistake and I can't boot my fresly compiled kernel. I can boot Debian default 2.4.18-k7, but I wanted 2.4.20 from source and it doesn't seem to work. What I did is: untar it ln -s linux-2.4.20 linux cd linux make mrproper make menuconfi

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:10:30PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:01:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > Yes, agree, I have an old 12x lite on and a newer 40x. Works fine on > > both windoze and debian. I'm also useing a Plextor 48x, very nice. And a >

Re: pxelinux boot isn't loading woody kernel

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:05:32PM -0500, Susan Kleinmann wrote: > I am trying to install Debian onto a floppy-less CD-ROM-less Shuttle > XPC SS40G with an AMD Athlon installed. > > Following the instructions at: > http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=818 > I obtained the linux.bin and root.bin

Re: FW: FW: Retrieving mail from a web based mail service?

2003-03-29 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:48:13AM +0530, Sharninder wrote: > > > > I was wondering if there was nything like fetchmail for web based > > access"? > > > > not any AFAIK. All web mail clients might handle and do handle the > client side differently even though they might be using the same > IMAP or

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:42:19AM -0500, Stephan Sauerburger wrote: [ please don't top post ] > Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and > reconfiguring it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not > having to completely redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be >

Re: [DEB-USER] Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:50:58PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* > this list. > > > > Yeah, this list

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread Scott Henson
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 10:42, Stephan Sauerburger wrote: > Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and reconfiguring > it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not having to completely > redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be most preferred. Is there > any sort of Potat

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:01:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > Yes, agree, I have an old 12x lite on and a newer 40x. Works fine on > both windoze and debian. I'm also useing a Plextor 48x, very nice. And a > old Sony 12x and a Teac scsi 12x, also very nice. > > I'm useing scsi emul

pxelinux boot isn't loading woody kernel

2003-03-29 Thread Susan Kleinmann
I am trying to install Debian onto a floppy-less CD-ROM-less Shuttle XPC SS40G with an AMD Athlon installed. Following the instructions at: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=818 I obtained the linux.bin and root.bin files from the woody distribution, (woody/main/disks-i386/current/bf2.4)

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Samat Jain wrote: > I think just about every modern IDE/ATAPI CD-RW works in Linux now, > through cdrecord and cdrdao's generic-mmc drivers. Again, always check > before buying. Many inexpensive drives available in the USA are remarked > Lite-On drives, which work great

Packages for Debian 3.0 (Alpha 20)

2003-03-29 Thread Adrian Bunk
I have prepared some packages that update some packages that are not or only in an older version in Debian 3.0r1. Please read [1] for more information (and read the FAQ before sending mails to me). I try my best to avoid problems with both installing these packages on Debian 3.0 and upgrading with

Problems getting Samba to work

2003-03-29 Thread David E. Meiser
I am attempting to build a media server, using samba to transfer files to the media server from my Windows XP box and am unable to logon to the media server. I am able to get to the media server and view the open shares, but I'm unable to get to the shared files themselves (let alone write to the

Re: missing GTK2 theme in debian

2003-03-29 Thread christophe barbe
I thought it was the RH bluecurve theme but I was misled by Package: gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue Description: LighthouseBlue theme for GTK+ 2.0 This theme is derived from RedHat's BlueCurve, with many changes as suggested by the OSNews review of RedHat 8. Which I use and is not as polish as th

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Samat Jain
I think just about every modern IDE/ATAPI CD-RW works in Linux now, through cdrecord and cdrdao's generic-mmc drivers. Again, always check before buying. Many inexpensive drives available in the USA are remarked Lite-On drives, which work great under Linux. One thing you will have trouble with

Re: missing GTK2 theme in debian

2003-03-29 Thread Samat Jain
That theme is Redhat's 'Bluecurve', or called 'Wonderland' in non-Redhat distributions. I don't know if there's a Debian package, but you may want to search for the 'Wonderland' engine on http://art.gnome.org/. -- Samat C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but wh

Sound Advice (no pun intended)

2003-03-29 Thread Christof Hurschler
im running Woody with KDE 3.1 and the 2.4.18 kernel on a k6-350 with 128MB, I'd like to be able to listen to music with XMMS while I do stuff like download mail (with spamassassin). I get lots of dropouts even with buffrring set to max in XMMS. I also can't get XMMS working with the System no

multiple lines in the prompt

2003-03-29 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
How come Eterm sometimes writes over itself in a two line command (at the prompt) but sometimes it correctly creates a new line? It seems to happen after I've been in vim/mutt. Is there something I can explicitly set so that it always know to write the second line on a new line? I tried this, but

Re: apache segfaulting [FIXED]

2003-03-29 Thread Shri Shrikumar
Hi, I just wanted to let you guys know that I was able to trace the problem down to php4-apc - a php4 cacher which had cached code based on the version of php installed at the time. After deleting all the cache files, it runs fine. Regards, Shri -- --

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-29 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 16:16, Aryan Ameri wrote: > What about Libranet? Has anyone tried installing Libranet, and the pointing > the repository to Debain's repository and upgrade packages? Do you think it > is doable? Done with Libra 2.7, then used woody sources + the important backports. Worked

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:33:33PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > Your sig does not begin with a single line consisting of the three > > characters "-- " (ignoring the quotes); such a delimiter is considered > > standard. > > ASAIKS, my sig does have that "-- " character, because KMail 1.5 > automa

Re: [OT] History of debian-user footer.

2003-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Cam Ellison wrote: > As I remind my clients frequently, when I refuse to recommend a > candidate: half the population is below average. Do any of your clients ever remind you that the mean is not the median? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To U

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread Stephan Sauerburger
Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and reconfiguring it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not having to completely redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be most preferred. Is there any sort of Potato-to-Woody (2.2 to 3.0) automated update procedure implemented

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:41:25AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:37, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > -MS Windows controlled BIOS setup (I just found out the new Toshiba laptops > > have no more "hit to enter setup" on boot. It is all handled through > > Windows utilities

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:04:35AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:54:28PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > It would help if the listmaster was someone who actually *read* this list. > > > > Yeah, this listmaste

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Saturday 29 March 2003 22:04, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:24:53PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > > I don't remember so. > > > > I recommend you read Nettiquets one more time. > >^^ > That's "netiquette". Spelling errors happen, when englis

Re: Programing Question

2003-03-29 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:09:44AM -0600, Harley D. Eades III wrote: > Hello, >This might be off topic, but I hope someone can answer a question > for me. Is there any documentation on parport.h parport_pc.h. I seem to > get err's when I try to use either of them. > Do you have to link to a

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Saturday 29 March 2003 21:16, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 18:24, Aryan Ameri wrote: > [...] > > > Did I ask for a tutorial on Basic html tags? > > or did I ask wether graphic intensive websites are good pr bad? > > > > I don't remember so. > > Dude, > > take a chill pill, the g

Re: xpdf

2003-03-29 Thread Jim McCloskey
David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Luckily, time is not short (the talk will be on monday) and I can live |> without anti-aliased eps. Unfortunately, I really can't begin to show my |> institution's logo, since the text underneath it simply is too ugly and |> unintelligible to show peopl

Re: [OT] History of debian-user footer.

2003-03-29 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:43:56AM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: > > As I remind my clients frequently, when I refuse to recommend a > candidate: half the population is below average. Are they ? More than 95% of people have more thanm the average number of legs, so less than 5% are below average (5%

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:14:24PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: [ snip ] > I am getting the impression that many people commenting in this thread > didn't pay attention to what the OP was dealing with. IIUC, his email > address has been changed by his ISP from .com to .net, and while they > are st

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:24:53PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Did I ask for a tutorial on Basic html tags? > or did I ask wether graphic intensive websites are good pr bad? Neither, you asked asked for help creating an aesthetically pleasing web page which conformed to standards so you could get

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 04:57, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Btw, has anyone else found that the English ISO of Knoppix 3.2 for 24 > > March 2003 displays a lot of things in German even if

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 05:33:54PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi there: > > I am a freshman student, in Computer Studies. A project has recently been > assigned to us in one of our courses (intro to computers), and as I don't > have experience building websites, I am seeking your advice in this

Synaptic seems to need a Widget set

2003-03-29 Thread Rick Commo
When I start up synaptic I get the following message: "synaptic warning: WINGS: could not load images file: could not open file" This is on a newly R3.0r1 install from CD to a freshly formatted drive. I used the minimalist approach as laid out by Clinton De Young and then added in KDE. So I may

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:34:47AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 04:21:23PM +1200, cr wrote: > > That 'tech support' is a red herring anyway, at least if you have Internet > > access. I've had better support from the linux-newbie, gnome, debian > > mailing lists (and even

Re: How long is linux going to be free ?

2003-03-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 06:45, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:51:42AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > It's not entirely clear whether or not the copyright holders may > > release new versions of the software under a more restrictive license, > > making the non-free fork of tuxracer l

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:14:24PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > I am getting the impression that many people commenting in this thread > didn't pay attention to what the OP was dealing with. IIUC, his email > address has been changed by his ISP from .com to .net, and while they > are still accepti

Re: Toy Story List

2003-03-29 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Saturday 29 March 2003 20:35, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 09:50:43AM -0800, JS Bangs wrote: > > Interesting--but how many characters are there in Toy Story? What are the > > plans for naming released when we run out? We already seem to have gone > > through most of the major on

Re: Antivirus in Debian?

2003-03-29 Thread Andy
> 1) Debian system itself > * Update your system constantly with security fixes > * configure system by following harden-doc package instruction or its >latest information at >http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ > * close port and unused services. > * run program li

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:41:25AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:37, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > -MS Windows controlled BIOS setup (I just found out the new Toshiba laptops > > have no more "hit to enter setup" on boot. It is all handled through > > Windows utilities

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 18:24, Aryan Ameri wrote: [...] > Did I ask for a tutorial on Basic html tags? > or did I ask wether graphic intensive websites are good pr bad? > > I don't remember so. Dude, take a chill pill, the guy was just trying to be helpful and you are being rude and abnoxious. >

Re: Toy Story List

2003-03-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 09:59, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "Lindsay" == Lindsay Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Lindsay> Now come on you guys get serious! Stop talking Woody and > Lindsay> Potatoe this is *not* a "Toy Story" list, this is serious > Lindsay> puter stuff! > > Po

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 03:23, Al Davis wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:04:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > Oh, as for subscription address, maybe we need to tell > > > > outlook user how to read their mail header. People > > > > forgets where they subscribed from and outlook users tend

Re: can't login on console with ctrl-alt-Fn

2003-03-29 Thread Johan Ehnberg
Where do I go to fix the console keyboard mapping? Would this be in /etc/environment? The CTYPE env does the trick for me (getting my scandinavian keyb to work right). Install 'localeconf', if you are unfamiliar with the system view of it. It's a little tool which tells you about locale envs.

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Dresser wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Joris Huizer wrote: Hello everybody, I have a simple question: which cd writer do you people recommend to buy for use with Debian (and windows 98) ? I'm using a 48x lite-on that usually sells for 20-30 dollars after rebates. Works just fine except that

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-03-29T17:43:37Z, Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a simple question: which cd writer do you people recommend to buy > for use with Debian (and windows 98) ? I bought a Samsung 32x burner for $60 - $10 "instant rebate" - $20 mail-in rebate = $30. It works wonderfully with

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:24:53PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2003 20:05, Eric G. Miller wrote: > > You could design the website entirely as preformatted text with ASCII > > art "graphics". Then you'll only need a couple of tags: > > > > > > > > ASCII DOOD! > [snip] >

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread ScruLoose
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:09:34AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:55:28PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > Make it less abusive to the potentially misguided but harmless user > (assume they have a clue but cocked it up by accident). Well, yes. I did actually specify in the sam

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello Mike Dresser, Thank you for your reply - though I'd want to check - is it this one you meant ? http://www.liteonit.com/english/new_p_e/english--p-rw482448.htm I'm asking because the support section only talks about Windows versions ... Thanks again, Joris --- Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: mouse question

2003-03-29 Thread Paul Scott
Richard Kimber wrote: Which parameter(s), and where, do I need to change in order to have the mouse be not so fast at selecting text? I'm not sure that any timing change will fix this. Let's see if we get any other opinions. My problem is that, when editing, if I try to place the cursor in a

Re: can't login on console with ctrl-alt-Fn

2003-03-29 Thread Lukas Latz
> >My system is configured to start x on login. Whenever I try to log > into > >a non-x console with ctrl-alt-Fn, either as root or a normal user, > the > >prompt claims "login incorrect". > This should not be happening. > > You can log into X, right? Do so, and open a terminal window, and > type

Re: Debian's release support policy

2003-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 07:57:40AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:57:45AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > I don't think we'd ever inflict something as short as 2 weeks on our > > users, large sites or no large sites. > > When Potato went stable, 2 weeks was all the previou

Re: Should I upgrade my kernel?

2003-03-29 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:08:51PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Both of my machines are for my personal use (1 desktop and 1 laptop). Your > mention of a root exploit makes me worry though, since my desktop is > connected to the internet 24/7 by a DSL modem. don't worry if you haven't given

Re: Toy Story List

2003-03-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 09:50:43AM -0800, JS Bangs wrote: > Interesting--but how many characters are there in Toy Story? What are the > plans for naming released when we run out? We already seem to have gone > through most of the major ones. Toy Story 2 ... -- Colin Watson

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