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On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ted Parvu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote:
> > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
> > appropriate.
> > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.
>
> Th
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ted Parvu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote:
> > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
> > appropriate.
> > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.
>
> Th
> "Thomas" == Thomas Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
Thomas> By the way, as people asked for licenses like
Thomas> peace-only-use... Are there any licenses forbidding religious
Thomas> people to use software? They don't need computers and internet,
Thomas> they can pray all day long.
> "Thomas" == Thomas Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
Thomas> By the way, as people asked for licenses like
Thomas> peace-only-use... Are there any licenses forbidding religious
Thomas> people to use software? They don't need computers and internet,
Thomas> they can pray all day long.
Hi folks
Now that we have a lot of positions expressed here
and the thread is getting as emotional as one could
expect from the topic:
Let's proof the Debian community can do better and
get along peacefully and productive despite the fact
that we all have a different cultural and religious
backgr
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Ren? Seindal wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote:
>
>> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our
>> nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is
>> one thing going against it Is qui
Hi folks
Now that we have a lot of positions expressed here
and the thread is getting as emotional as one could
expect from the topic:
Let's proof the Debian community can do better and
get along peacefully and productive despite the fact
that we all have a different cultural and religious
backgr
Hi!
* Cesar Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 07:16]:
> Well, I guess I am betraying you too, quite openly at that. What now?
> Am I evil and insane, too? Would you like to "enforce" your laws on me
> and my family?
>
> You better make sure I don't survive the "enforcing".
uh, careful what
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote:
> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our
> nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is
> one thing going against it Is quite another.
This is the kind of totalitarian attitude that
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] René Seindal wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote:
>
>> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our
>> nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is
>> one thing going against it Is qui
Hi!
* Cesar Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 07:16]:
> Well, I guess I am betraying you too, quite openly at that. What now?
> Am I evil and insane, too? Would you like to "enforce" your laws on me
> and my family?
>
> You better make sure I don't survive the "enforcing".
uh, careful what
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote:
> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our
> nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is
> one thing going against it Is quite another.
This is the kind of totalitarian attitude that
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:36:58AM +0100, Thomas Ritter wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:42 schrieb Steve Hagerman:
> > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of
> > life.
> > And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> > leader Sa
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:42 schrieb Steve Hagerman:
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of
> life.
> And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> leader Saddam.
Yo, thank - whoever - Europe killed the fucking christian god a lo
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:36:58AM +0100, Thomas Ritter wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:42 schrieb Steve Hagerman:
> > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of
> > life.
> > And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> > leader Sa
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:42 schrieb Steve Hagerman:
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of
> life.
> And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> leader Saddam.
Yo, thank - whoever - Europe killed the fucking christian god a lo
@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:27:20PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Your a blind fool.
You're ::= You are
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:27:20PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Your a blind fool.
You're ::= You are
:-)
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly
> disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be
> debian-compatible?
Of course there are such licenses, and of course they are not DFSG
free ...
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:53:25PM -0700, Didier Caamano wrote:
>
> Let say I have 3 computers a, b, c.
> a: Has a useless IP address (so far as I know) a 10.ip.add.ress and cannot
> connect to any service ecept html.
> b: Has a normal IP and is able to serve as telnet server but not ssh.
> c: Is
First of all, I deeply apologize for posting the following rant on this
list. But I *must* say it.
Does anyone know where this kind of discussion could be followed on?
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:42, Steve Hagerman wrote:
>
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out
> wa
From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:03:53 -0500
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please?
-Jim P.
I agree with you,and talking about peace and security, I have one question:
Let say I have 3 comp
From: "Karl Ots" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:14:45 +1000
And a 'hacker' is just someone who like's to code, right? I mean, if you
went out on to the street and asked any random passerby '
]
Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:27:20PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Your a blind fool.
You're ::= You are
:-)
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly
> disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be
> debian-compatible?
Of course there are such licenses, and of course they are not DFSG
free ...
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:27:20PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Your a blind fool.
You're ::= You are
:-)
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:53:25PM -0700, Didier Caamano wrote:
>
> Let say I have 3 computers a, b, c.
> a: Has a useless IP address (so far as I know) a 10.ip.add.ress and cannot
> connect to any service ecept html.
> b: Has a normal IP and is able to serve as telnet server but not ssh.
> c: Is
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500
"Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out
> way of life.
> And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> leader Saddam.
> We have struck a mighty blow against te
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Hagerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:43 PM
>
> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish
> that our nation would Enforce the laws against treason.
Right now I would settle for the Debian.org admins to enforce
, American == US citizen.
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Karl J. Ots (Hacker)
-Original Message-
From: Didier Caamano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:05 PM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Just to think about:
Since when the people who lives in t
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please?
-Jim P.
First of all, I deeply apologize for posting the following rant on this
list. But I *must* say it.
Does anyone know where this kind of discussion could be followed on?
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:42, Steve Hagerman wrote:
>
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out
> wa
From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:03:53 -0500
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please?
-Jim P.
I agree with you,and talking about peace and security, I have one quest
factor.
Dave W Pastern
-Original Message-
From: Didier Caamano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 2:05 PM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org; David Pastern
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Just to think about:
Since when the people who lives in the United Stat
Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an
> > Empire. "
From: "Karl Ots" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:14:45 +1000
And a 'hacker' is just someone who like's to code, right? I mean, if you
went out on to the street and asked any r
ing Monica give
him a few blowjobs, but at least Clinton was a *real* president. The USA -
the land of free speech, as long as it doesn't upset your government.
There I said my bit on that matter...
Dave W Pastern
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: M
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> I fear my system may be used for psychological cyberwarfare, i.e. I
> might get e-mails messing with my brain. what can I do? ;)
http://zapatopi.net/mindguard.html
p.s. I certainly don't have anything to do with mindguard and only mention
it as it is s
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly
> disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be
> debian-compatible?
Finally, we drag the thread back to something at least marginally
Debian-re
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500
"Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out
> way of life.
> And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane
> leader Saddam.
> We have struck a mighty blow against te
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Hagerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:43 PM
>
> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish
> that our nation would Enforce the laws against treason.
Right now I would settle for the Debian.org admins to enforce
as long as it doesn't upset your government.
There I said my bit on that matter...
Dave W Pastern
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 12:16 PM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org; David Pastern
Subject: Re: Peace is not off top
Hi!
* Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 03:11]:
> Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users
> become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I
> wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!
you'd get less information there, th
Hi!
* Andreas Vitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 02:41]:
> > Why do you think iraq will destroy your holy USA ?? Don't you think
> > Iraq
> > CAN attack any country on earth ??
> > using missiles that reach 110 to 180 kilometers, the iraq cant't
> > destroy
> > the US. I don not know whom the ira
have to agree
This is not the palce for such discussions
Thing
Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users
become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I
wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!
, American == US citizen.
--
Karl J. Ots (Hacker)
-Original Message-
From: Didier Caamano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Just to think about:
Since when the people who lives in the United Stat
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please?
-Jim P.
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factor.
Dave W Pastern
-Original Message-
From: Didier Caamano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern
Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic
Just to think about:
Since when the people who lives in the United States are Americans, s
is not off topic
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an
> > Empire. "You are either with
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now
> > an Empire. "You are either with us or against us."
> When did Bush actually say that A
nice day everyone.
Didier.
"Nothing would please me more than being able to hire ten programmers and
deluge the hoby market with good software"...Bill Gates 1976...We're still
waiting
From: David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Raymond Wood' <[EMAIL PROTEC
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> I fear my system may be used for psychological cyberwarfare, i.e. I
> might get e-mails messing with my brain. what can I do? ;)
http://zapatopi.net/mindguard.html
p.s. I certainly don't have anything to do with mindguard and only mention
it as it is s
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote:
> P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly
> disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be
> debian-compatible?
Finally, we drag the thread back to something at least marginally
Debian-re
as long as it doesn't upset your government.
There I said my bit on that matter...
Dave W Pastern
-Original Message-----
From: Raymond Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern
Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic
On Mon, Mar
Hi!
* Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 03:11]:
> Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users
> become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I
> wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!
you'd get less information there, th
Hi!
* Andreas Vitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 02:41]:
> > Why do you think iraq will destroy your holy USA ?? Don't you think
> > Iraq
> > CAN attack any country on earth ??
> > using missiles that reach 110 to 180 kilometers, the iraq cant't
> > destroy
> > the US. I don not know whom the ira
have to agree
This is not the palce for such discussions
Thing
Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users
become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I
wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!
--
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Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users
become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I
wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!
--
0110001101100110110110110110 Steve Johnson: pubkeyID 0F737450
0110001101110110110110001100 Linu
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now
> > an Empire. "You are either with us or against us."
> When did Bush actually say that A
also sprach Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.2023 +0100]:
> This thread relates to the security of the entire planet!
bugger off. this list is called *debian*-security. at least one place
on the 'net where you don't have to worry about fucked up nations
doing penis-length contests.
> I a
On Monday 10 March 2003 2:23 pm, Ted Parvu wrote:
>You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to
>security issues in the Debian community.
Ted,
I am an American paleolibertarian antiwar activist. I write frequently for
LewRockwell.com, the preeminent libertarian antiwar webs
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote:
> You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to
> security issues in the Debian community.
This is a sysadmin technical list. Some of us are not
of your opinion. There are tens of thousands of appropriate
places to
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an
> Empire.
> "You are either with us or against us."
When did Bush actually say that America is now an empire? he didn't.
Bush doesn't want to go to war wit
also sprach Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.2023 +0100]:
> This thread relates to the security of the entire planet!
bugger off. this list is called *debian*-security. at least one place
on the 'net where you don't have to worry about fucked up nations
doing penis-length contests.
> I a
On Monday 10 March 2003 2:23 pm, Ted Parvu wrote:
>You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to
>security issues in the Debian community.
Ted,
I am an American paleolibertarian antiwar activist. I write frequently for
LewRockwell.com, the preeminent libertarian antiwar webs
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote:
> > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
> > appropriate.
> > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.
>
> Then subscribe to "debian-sec
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote:
> You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to
> security issues in the Debian community.
This is a sysadmin technical list. Some of us are not
of your opinion. There are tens of thousands of appropriate
places to
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an
> Empire.
> "You are either with us or against us."
When did Bush actually say that America is now an empire? he didn't.
Bush doesn't want to go to war wit
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote:
> > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
> > appropriate.
> > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.
>
> Then subscribe to "debian-sec
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