hi ya andrew
theres's about a dozen anti-virus sw...
http://www.Linux-sec.net/Mail/#AntiVirus
have fun linuxing
alvin
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote:
> I am using Exiscan: http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/. Installation is fairly
> straight forward.
>
> Along with the linux version of M
a thing." Agent Smith - The Matrix
- Original Message -
From: "Giacomo Mulas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew Tait" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian-Security List"
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organizati
hi ya andrew
theres's about a dozen anti-virus sw...
http://www.Linux-sec.net/Mail/#AntiVirus
have fun linuxing
alvin
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote:
> I am using Exiscan: http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/. Installation is fairly
> straight forward.
>
> Along with the linux version of
is such a thing." Agent Smith - The Matrix
- Original Message -
From: "Giacomo Mulas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew Tait" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian-Security List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:07:23 +0100, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote:
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[...]
> T-
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:07:23 +0100, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote:
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[...]
> T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both.
> But wich is more secure? any body some knowledge about that?
postfix has a better, more security concious, design
Previously Hendrik Naumann wrote:
> Why whas Exim choosen to be the standart MTA for Debian?
It was a good successor to smail, postfix didn't exist yet, sendmail
ate too much resources and the rest was too obscure.
Wichert.
--
_
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> AIUI, Exim was originally written to handle Cambridge's email
> anyway, so the fact that hermes is running Exim isn't a huge
> surprise. :)
The Mailserver of TU-Berlin (I think more than 1 Users) and other
central Mailserver here run Exim.
te
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both.
> But wich is more secure? any body some knowledge about that?
postfix has a better, more security concious, design
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both. But wich is more
> secure? any body some knowledge about that?
[snip]
I thought both had had security-related fixes recently. Find one that you
like more than the other, benchmark it yourself, test how readily you can
now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both.
But wich is more secure? any body some knowledge about that?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:04:05PM +0100, Eelco van Beek wrote:
> What do you mean by dbmail stuff? It can use postfix, sendmail, exim or
> any other mailer.
>
> With mbox (maildir is
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Johannes Weiss wrote:
> 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:01:26 +
> * It says that it's Exim
[...]
> > I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server.
> ACK, but the "is syntactically correct" is an Exim proof I think.
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On Saturday, 19. January 2002 13:37, Pete Ryland wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> > $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
> > Trying 131.111.8.67...
> > Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
What do you mean by dbmail stuff? It can use postfix, sendmail, exim or
any other mailer.
With mbox (maildir is better) messages always need to be structured.
Dbmail saves it's messages already in a structured way, so this not
needs to be redone every time a message is being retrieved.
Regards,
Previously Eelco van Beek wrote:
> Why not put your mail into a database?. No more security and scalability
> hassles. (www.dbmail.org)
Because it restricts you to using dbmail stuff. Personally I'm very
happy with using maildirs and importing only select mailheaders in a
custom sql database so I
Previously Hendrik Naumann wrote:
> Why whas Exim choosen to be the standart MTA for Debian?
It was a good successor to smail, postfix didn't exist yet, sendmail
ate too much resources and the rest was too obscure.
Wichert.
--
_
Why not put your mail into a database?. No more security and scalability
hassles. (www.dbmail.org)
Best regards,
Eelco
On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 19:07, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:04:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> > why schould i not use exim for
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> AIUI, Exim was originally written to handle Cambridge's email
> anyway, so the fact that hermes is running Exim isn't a huge
> surprise. :)
The Mailserver of TU-Berlin (I think more than 1 Users) and other
central Mailserver here run Exim.
t
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:04:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Thomas,
> why schould i not use exim for my customers?
> Is it insecure? (i have read the mailinglists and there is nothing i have
> heard about)
> das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users?
--- cut ---
>From [EMAI
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both. But wich is more
> secure? any body some knowledge about that?
[snip]
I thought both had had security-related fixes recently. Find one that you
like more than the other, benchmark it yourself, test how readily you can
now i have tried postfix and exim and i like both.
But wich is more secure? any body some knowledge about that?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:04:05PM +0100, Eelco van Beek wrote:
> What do you mean by dbmail stuff? It can use postfix, sendmail, exim or
> any other mailer.
>
> With mbox (maildir i
At 12:37 PM + 1/19/02, Pete Ryland wrote:
I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. It's
quite common practice (I'm sure a lot on this list may do so) to display a
version string that is not at all accurate in an attempt to put off crackers
or create a honeypot.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Johannes Weiss wrote:
> 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:01:26 +
> * It says that it's Exim
[...]
> > I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server.
> ACK, but the "is syntactically correct" is an Exim proof I think.
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Hash: SHA1
On Saturday, 19. January 2002 13:37, Pete Ryland wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> > $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
> > Trying 131.111.8.67...
> > Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk.
> > Escape character is '^]'
What do you mean by dbmail stuff? It can use postfix, sendmail, exim or
any other mailer.
With mbox (maildir is better) messages always need to be structured.
Dbmail saves it's messages already in a structured way, so this not
needs to be redone every time a message is being retrieved.
Regards,
Previously Eelco van Beek wrote:
> Why not put your mail into a database?. No more security and scalability
> hassles. (www.dbmail.org)
Because it restricts you to using dbmail stuff. Personally I'm very
happy with using maildirs and importing only select mailheaders in a
custom sql database so I
Why not put your mail into a database?. No more security and scalability
hassles. (www.dbmail.org)
Best regards,
Eelco
On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 19:07, Hans-Joachim Picht wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:04:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> > why schould i not use exim fo
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 01:04:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Thomas,
> why schould i not use exim for my customers?
> Is it insecure? (i have read the mailinglists and there is nothing i have heard
>about)
> das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users?
--- cut ---
>From [EMAI
At 12:37 PM + 1/19/02, Pete Ryland wrote:
>I wouldn't always believe the version reported by a large mail server. It's
>quite common practice (I'm sure a lot on this list may do so) to display a
>version string that is not at all accurate in an attempt to put off crackers
>or create a honeypo
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
> Trying 131.111.8.67...
> Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:58:44 +
>^
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users?
Hm, well, Cambridge University, home of Exim, has what, several tens of
thousands? They seem to be doing OK with Exim:
$ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
Trying 131.111.8.67...
Connected to yellow.csi.
hi all,
i have one question. I am going to start a security companie. I know, every
person must choose its own mailserver
software. I have tryed out qmail, exim and a little bit postfix. Qmail seams
to be very secure and very fast. The configuration i think is to difficult
vor every System. Now m
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 12:02:59PM +, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> $ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
> Trying 131.111.8.67...
> Connected to yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk ESMTP Exim 3.22 #1 Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:58:44 +
>
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> das exim not handle a big mail site like 1000 users?
Hm, well, Cambridge University, home of Exim, has what, several tens of
thousands? They seem to be doing OK with Exim:
$ telnet hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp
Trying 131.111.8.67...
Connected to yellow.csi
hi all,
i have one question. I am going to start a security companie. I know, every person
must choose its own mailserver
software. I have tryed out qmail, exim and a little bit postfix. Qmail seams
to be very secure and very fast. The configuration i think is to difficult
vor every System. Now
Greetings!
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:06:37AM +0100, eim wrote:
>
> I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
As you want to use exim and mailing list, you will want to have a
partition for /var or /var/spool instead of
Hello
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:05:18PM -0500, Federico Grau wrote:
> > i would suggest you to use not exim. exim is a very nice MTA but the best
> > mind of security and performance is qmail!
Which is very complicated to administer and install, try postfix for
not to big sites (a matter of tast
Greetings!
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:06:37AM +0100, eim wrote:
>
> I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
As you want to use exim and mailing list, you will want to have a
partition for /var or /var/spool instead o
Hello
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:05:18PM -0500, Federico Grau wrote:
> > i would suggest you to use not exim. exim is a very nice MTA but the best
> > mind of security and performance is qmail!
Which is very complicated to administer and install, try postfix for
not to big sites (a matter of tas
/boot partition is OK.
but I also want to use sofwtare RAID on the mailserver,
I'm going to patch Debian's Potato stable Kernel-2.2.19
against RAID support.
Let me say I organize my server this way...
Disk: /dev/sda
---
/ /dev/s
/boot partition is OK.
but I also want to use sofwtare RAID on the mailserver,
I'm going to patch Debian's Potato stable Kernel-2.2.19
against RAID support.
Let me say I organize my server this way...
Disk: /dev/sda
---
/ /dev/
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote:
> Exim does everything that I want, RBL, anti-virus with the exiscan program,
> and custom filters as well.
I run exim as well on the mail server of my institute, and I am
investigating the possibility to add virus scanning capability on it,
would you mind
On Thursday, 17. January 2002 19:05, Federico Grau wrote:
> Boot is where kernels live (placed at the start of the disk for old bioses
> that cannot read far into large disks ... your bios may not need it...
> experiment if you have time). I have "a lot" of kernels on my system, 6
> and my boot d
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Andrew Tait wrote:
> Exim does everything that I want, RBL, anti-virus with the exiscan program,
> and custom filters as well.
I run exim as well on the mail server of my institute, and I am
investigating the possibility to add virus scanning capability on it,
would you mind
On Thursday, 17. January 2002 19:05, Federico Grau wrote:
> Boot is where kernels live (placed at the start of the disk for old bioses
> that cannot read far into large disks ... your bios may not need it...
> experiment if you have time). I have "a lot" of kernels on my system, 6
> and my boot
(03) 58 711 874
"It's the smell! If there is such a thing." Agent Smith - The Matrix
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "Debian-Security List"
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD
;
> >Greetz,
> >
> >Ivo
> >
> >dudes@doc:~$ apt-cache show clue
> >Package: clue
> >Priority: optional
> >--------
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:16:05AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100
> eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> > /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
>
> MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. A
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian-Security List
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:06 AM
> Subject: Mailserver HDD organization
>
>
> Hallo to
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:16:05AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100
> eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> > /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
>
> MTAs are inherently disk IO bound.
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:23:02 -0500
Dave Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how
> comfortable are you guys with Exim? -A. Dave
Very. I like, and use both Exim and Postfix in deployed production
systems.
--
J C Lawrence
--
On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100
eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. As such, if possible devote a
spindle to /var/spool/mail and do what you can
hi ivo
for partitions...
- i prefer smallest/reasonable / partitions ( 64M or 128M etc )
- getting into single user mode is extremely important
- /var/spool/{mail,mqueue} in a mail server should
be its own "huge" partitions ???
- /home doesnt mea
mmh, conclusions...
...I think I'm going to use exim.
exim runs fine with Mailman for the lists,
has spam filtering... and is avaiable as binary
and completly free under Debian Potato 2.2r5.
Anyway I'll consider qmail for future upgrades.
Thanks for all replays,
have a nice day...
-Ivo
On Th
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian-Security List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:06 AM
> Subject: Mailserver HDD organization
&g
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:23:02 -0500
Dave Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how
> comfortable are you guys with Exim? -A. Dave
Very. I like, and use both Exim and Postfix in deployed production
systems.
--
J C Lawrence
-
On 17 Jan 2002 07:06:37 +0100
eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking about a partition for /, one for boot, one for
> /var/spool/mail and some other important system parts.
MTAs are inherently disk IO bound. As such, if possible devote a
spindle to /var/spool/mail and do what you can
hi ivo
for partitions...
- i prefer smallest/reasonable / partitions ( 64M or 128M etc )
- getting into single user mode is extremely important
- /var/spool/{mail,mqueue} in a mail server should
be its own "huge" partitions ???
- /home doesnt me
> I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how comfortable
> are you guys with Exim?
I use Exim here for a low throughput small office mail server, grabbing
aliases from LDAP. I'm very happy with it - the documentation is extensive,
and the configuration is a doddle. The Exim user m
--
-Original Message-
From: Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:07 +0100
Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
ple
mmh, conclusions...
...I think I'm going to use exim.
exim runs fine with Mailman for the lists,
has spam filtering... and is avaiable as binary
and completly free under Debian Potato 2.2r5.
Anyway I'll consider qmail for future upgrades.
Thanks for all replays,
have a nice day...
-Ivo
On T
> I know, I know, use what you feel comfortable with, but how comfortable
> are you guys with Exim?
I use Exim here for a low throughput small office mail server, grabbing
aliases from LDAP. I'm very happy with it - the documentation is extensive,
and the configuration is a doddle. The Exim user
---
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:22:07 +0100
>Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization
>
>>On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL P
100
Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
Hi there
On the subject of MTA's, is there no groupware like Lotus Domino or exchance
server available on Debian? Personaly I feel all Linux MTA's are very good.
Is it not just a matter of personal choice?
Kind Regards
Gerrit
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:22:07PM +0100, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
> license
w
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
> license
please, use whatever
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
>
please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
license
--
Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta | They that give up essential liberty
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian-Security List
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:06 AM
Subject: Mailserver HDD organization
Hallo to everyone on the Debian Sec. List,
I'm actually planing to install a new mailserver
on network, the mail
Subject: Re: Mailserver HDD organization
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
> license
Hi there
On the subject of MTA's, is there no groupware like Lotus Domino or exchance
server available on Debian? Personaly I feel all Linux MTA's are very good.
Is it not just a matter of personal choice?
Kind Regards
Gerrit
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "un
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:22:07PM +0100, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
> license
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
> >
>
> please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
> license
please, use whatever
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 11:04:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> please use qmail, its really the securest MTA you can get.
>
please use postfix, since it's as secure as qmail and has a better
license
--
Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta | They that give up essential liberty
[EMAIL PROTECTED
- Original Message -
From: eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian-Security List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:06 AM
Subject: Mailserver HDD organization
Hallo to everyone on the Debian Sec. List,
I'm actually planing to install a new mailserve
Hallo to everyone on the Debian Sec. List,
I'm actually planing to install a new mailserver
on network, the mailserver will substitute an existing
one which runs of course Debain GNU/Linux potato and sendmail.
The new server will be a P266Mhz 128 | 65 MB Ram with 2x 8GB
IBM ULTRA WIDE SCSI HDD an
Hallo to everyone on the Debian Sec. List,
I'm actually planing to install a new mailserver
on network, the mailserver will substitute an existing
one which runs of course Debain GNU/Linux potato and sendmail.
The new server will be a P266Mhz 128 | 65 MB Ram with 2x 8GB
IBM ULTRA WIDE SCSI HDD a
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