* Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> Dear Johannes,
>
> On 01/22/2010 11:27 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>> A typical Debian upgrade will lead to
>> a downtime on the order of a few minutes once every 2 years, compared to
>> tedious manual reinstallation required on other systems. It is
>> straightforward to
Dear Moritz,
On 01/22/2010 07:14 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
On 2010-01-22, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
The Security Team has discussed and stated before: If large institutions
want a longer support cycle for oldstable they should colloborate to fund
this externally. Supporting oldstable releases for
Dear Johannes,
On 01/22/2010 11:27 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
A typical Debian upgrade will lead to
a downtime on the order of a few minutes once every 2 years, compared to
tedious manual reinstallation required on other systems. It is
straightforward to semi-automatically upgrade some 100 m
However if that is the case, I wonder if oldstable support could be
extended for some more time.
But why? There is a *stable* release with security support. Debian isn't
made for skipping a whole release. And the end of support for etch was
announced long ago, so that everyone had enough time to
On Friday 22 January 2010 20:27:55 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Dear Thiemo,
>
> Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> > However if that is the case, I wonder if oldstable support could be
> > extended for some more time.
> >
> > I know that all the work is done by volunteers and I'm very grateful for
> > what th
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Dear Thiemo,
Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> However if that is the case, I wonder if oldstable support could be
> extended for some more time.
>
> I know that all the work is done by volunteers and I'm very grateful for
> what they do. Still I think that esp
On 2010-01-22, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> Dear Michael,
>
> Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> it already seems hard enough with the current level of manpower to
>> support two releases at the same time let alone three. it may be
>> doable, but the security team would need more volunteers (particularly
>> thos
* Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> Dear Michael,
>
> Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> it already seems hard enough with the current level of manpower to
>> support two releases at the same time let alone three. it may be
>> doable, but the security team would need more volunteers (particularly
>> those interested
Dear Michael,
Michael Gilbert wrote:
it already seems hard enough with the current level of manpower to
support two releases at the same time let alone three. it may be
doable, but the security team would need more volunteers (particularly
those interested in doing the work to keep oldstable su
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:45:20PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> i agree that longer support for old releases would be wonderful, but
> that would mean at times providing full support for three concurrent
> releases (oldstable, stable, and testing).
very short times ;)
> it already seems hard
On Thursday 21 January 2010 09:39:14 Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
> support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
> machines.
>
> Is it planned to start squeeze security support in time to allow a
> direct 4.0 -->
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Qui, 21 Jan 2010, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
>> Dear Alexander,
>>
>> having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
>> support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
>> machines.
>>
>> Is it planned to start squeeze security supp
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:13:03 +, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:20:28AM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> > In general, skipping major versions has never been supported. An
> > upgrade from etch to squeeze should always involve a short stop in
> > lenny.
>
> of course, but doin
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:20:28AM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> In general, skipping major versions has never been supported. An
> upgrade from etch to squeeze should always involve a short stop in
> lenny.
of course, but doing these two upgrades one after another on a couple of
machines is sti
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Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> I'm not talking of an upgrade in the sense of 'apt-get dist-upgrade',
> we'll be doing fresh installations with the new version. However, it
> would save both administrators and users a huge amount of work, if we
> could deploy s
On 21/01/2010 18:00, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> The last time I checked, the freeze was scheduled for March. If I'm not
> mistaken, usually security support starts some time before the final
> release. So it's a rather narrow gap to be bridged (at least in my
> imagination).
Aren't you confusing the
Dear Eduardo,
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Qui, 21 Jan 2010, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
machines.
Is it planned to start squeeze security support in time to all
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Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
> support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
> machines.
- - read and follow the release notes [1]
- - upgrade one machine and record
On Qui, 21 Jan 2010, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
Dear Alexander,
having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of
~100 machines.
Is it planned to start squeeze security support in time to allow a
direct 4.0 --> 6.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 04:39:14PM +0100, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
> having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
> support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
> machines.
>
> Is it planned to start squeeze security support in time to allow a
> direc
Dear Alexander,
having read your email concerning the termination of etch security
support, I'm looking for an upgrade path for our installation of ~100
machines.
Is it planned to start squeeze security support in time to allow a
direct 4.0 --> 6.0 upgrade?
Cheers!
Thiemo
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