Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Jiri 'Ghormoon' Novak wrote: > maybe force moderator review for mails with only unsubscribe (and maybe > quoted message) in reply? I know, more work for mods, but less spam at > least. IIRC that is already in place but people keep coming up with novel misspellings.

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-03 Thread Jiri 'Ghormoon' Novak
Hi, I'd vote against, you'll annoy the ones that actually have something to say about it. You really don't wanna unsubscribe instead of discussing the topic :) maybe force moderator review for mails with only unsubscribe (and maybe quoted message) in reply? I know, more work for mods, but less sp

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-03 Thread Vladislav Kurz
Hi all, what about pointing reply-to to address that will automatically unsubscribe? Most of replies are either unsubscribe attempts or misconfigured vacation autoresponders. I know it maybe pretty harsh, but will do away with trolls ;) -- Regards Vladislav Kurz

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016, Andrew Vaughan wrote: > I'm wondering why the body of the email doesn't include instructions on how > to unsubscribe? Because of DMARC and other message-body signing anti-spam measures. The headers of every single message we send do include instructions on how to unsubscribe,

RE: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Bart-Jan Vrielink
ation. -Original message- From: Emiliano del PeonĀ  Sent: Wednesday 2nd March 2016 12:22 To: Andrew Vaughan Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org; listmas...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce Or it could be add just as a signat

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Florent Rougon
Andrew Vaughan wrote: > I'm wondering why the body of the email doesn't include instructions on how > to unsubscribe? Most modern email clients [...] > Just adding "To unsubscribe email:debian-security-requ...@lists.debian.org > with the subject unsubscribe" at the bottom of every email might

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Emiliano del Peon
Or it could be add just as a signature to the mail. Like: Content More content _ To unsubscribe send an email with subject: "Unsubsribe" to debian-secur...@lists.debia.org I think this clearly separates the content of the message

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Andrew Vaughan
I'm wondering why the body of the email doesn't include instructions on how to unsubscribe? Most modern email clients will recognise http and email addresses and make them clickable even in plain text messages. I realise that adds noise to every message, but people are good at skimming past irrel

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce

2016-03-02 Thread Florent Rougon
Alexander Wirt wrote: > Because people expect that they can answer a DSA. Okay, but what's the point? If someone has something valuable to say in response to a DSA: 1) he can find the debian-security list; 2) if he replies to the -announce list and gets a bounce because the Reply-To a

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce (Was: "[SECURITY] [DSA 3501-1] perl security update")

2016-03-02 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016, Grond wrote: > I'll second this motion. > > A good proportion of the traffic I get from debian-security > is simply silly people trying to unsubscribe themselves from > debian-security-announce by replying to DSAs. > > And while most of them do not respond with empty threats

Re: Changing the "Reply-To:" for debian-security-announce (Was: "[SECURITY] [DSA 3501-1] perl security update")

2016-03-02 Thread Grond
I'll second this motion. A good proportion of the traffic I get from debian-security is simply silly people trying to unsubscribe themselves from debian-security-announce by replying to DSAs. And while most of them do not respond with empty threats of spam, the policy of setting the "Reply-To" ma