Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 27 October 2005 23:34, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > To me it is a technical matter, as the changelogs are a tool for a > technical job. To me, changelogs are primarily a way of informing the user of changes in a package. Including references to fixed security issues is definit

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Joey Hess
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Found it. From: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=282681 "Please add this id to the proper changelog entry with the next upload." T

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 22:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > When dealing with Debian matters of a technical nature, yes. When > > dealing with matters outside Debian, or of a non-technical nature, I > > may decide to not take such an instance.

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Michael Stone wrote: > You know, you could have just not posted in the first place. Posting a > personal opinion about someone else's personal preference and then > ranting about people wasting your time questioning your personal > preferences is just flat out stupid. We all m

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Joey Hess wrote: > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > 3. The security team's work is helped by adding the CVE > > > information to the proper changelog entry, to the point that > > > they have request

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 27 October 2005 22:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > When dealing with Debian matters of a technical nature, yes. When > dealing with matters outside Debian, or of a non-technical nature, I > may decide to not take such an instance. And frankly, as long as it is > a rule of min

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 06:30:10PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: You are wrong. There ARE technical arguments for that rule: The amount of time I wasted in threads just like the one you are almost goading me into was detracting from the amount of useful Debian work. Maybe this will

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > When dealing with Debian matters of a technical nature, yes. When dealing > > with matters outside Debian, or of a non-technical nature, I may decide to > > not take such an instance. And frankly, as long as it is a rule of mine, > > applied to

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When dealing with Debian matters of a technical nature, yes. When dealing > with matters outside Debian, or of a non-technical nature, I may decide to > not take such an instance. And frankly, as long as it is a rule of mine, > applied to

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Parse error: "... that one?" I am sorry, I am not sure I understood what > > you mean. IF I got it right, my reply is simple: I will not change my mind > > about a technical matter back

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Joey Hess wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > 3. The security team's work is helped by adding the CVE > > information to the proper changelog entry, to the point that > > they have requested everyone to do so. This requires editing > > past changel

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Joey Hess
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > 3. The security team's work is helped by adding the CVE > information to the proper changelog entry, to the point that > they have requested everyone to do so. This requires editing > past changelog entries quite often. I don't think that the

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Parse error: "... that one?" I am sorry, I am not sure I understood what > you mean. IF I got it right, my reply is simple: I will not change my mind > about a technical matter backed by technical reasons, because of the beliefs > of someo

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > But at least we know that this subthread can end right here, right now. It > > is useless to discuss beliefs that exist without a technical backing, and I > > won't waste my time with it.

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But at least we know that this subthread can end right here, right now. It > is useless to discuss beliefs that exist without a technical backing, and I > won't waste my time with it. Do you have a technical backing for your view that it

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Horms wrote: > > > I believe that changelogs should never be changed restrospectively. > > > > Why not? Technical reasons only, please. Fixing changelogs so that they > > are more useful in the future is common in Debian. These are slight edits, > > always, not entry suppre

Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Horms
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 09:47:15AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Horms wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 11:32:15AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > > Hello people, > > > > > > As many of you are probably aware, CVE has changed the naming of their > > > id's: t

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 874-1] New lynx packages fix arbitrary code execution

2005-10-27 Thread Christophe Chisogne
Christophe Chisogne a écrit : > I guess lynx-ssl is affected too ? Is a lynx-ssl being prepared ? Ok, it's DSA 876-1, solved :) DSA-876-1 lynx-ssl -- buffer overflow http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-876 But I had a problem : I upgraded from Woody to Sarge. Woody had non-US

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Re: CAN to CVE: changing changelogs?

2005-10-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Horms wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 11:32:15AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > Hello people, > > > > As many of you are probably aware, CVE has changed the naming of their > > id's: the temporary "CAN-" prefix has been dropped and an id is now > > always of the form CVE-y

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 875-1] New OpenSSL packages fix cryptographic weakness

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) wrote: > The following matrix explains which version in which distribution has > this problem corrected. > > oldstable (woody) stable (sarge) unstable (sid) > openssl 0.9.6c-2.woody.8 0.9.7e-3sarge1 0.9.8-3 > openssl 0

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 874-1] New lynx packages fix arbitrary code execution

2005-10-27 Thread Christophe Chisogne
Martin Schulze a écrit : > Debian Security Advisory DSA 874-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (...) > Package: lynx > (...) > For the stable distribution (sarge) this problem has been fixed in > version 2.8.5-2sarge1. I guess lynx-ssl is affected too ? Is a lynx-ssl being prepared