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Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Anders Prisak wrote: [...] > I tried really, really hard to stay out of this but this one is just too big > to let by. Yes, France has sold weapons to Irak. It has done so along with > the US, britain and germany. That was during

Re: secure documents - Was: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread thing
Andreas Kotes wrote: Hi! * Tom Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030312 03:13]: Solicitor/lawyer deposits a sensitive document on a "server" and only select ppl whom that lawyer selects can access or download that document. It must be secure, auditable and keep lawyers happy! well, in c

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2003-03-11 Thread Andrew Fraser
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secure documents - Was: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Tom Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030312 03:13]: > Solicitor/lawyer deposits a sensitive document on a "server" and only > select ppl whom that lawyer selects can access or download that > document. It must be secure, auditable and keep lawyers happy! well, in case you don't trust https et

Re: Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:59:26PM -0500, Hubert Chan wrote: > Perhaps in your non-chroot environment, you have debsig-verify turned > off in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg ("no-debsig" option). I got excited and thought you'd hit it... then I checked and found that both have no-debsig set. So I'm still at a

Re: Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> I'm trying to figure out what is missing. I've got a chrooted Dale> environment in which I'm building a base.tgz, and on some dpkg's I Dale> am getting errors: [snip] Debian packages are not signed, which is why debsig-verify fails. Da

Re: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread Tom Panning
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:09 am, thing wrote: > Steve Hagerman wrote: > >Thank You Nathan. Apears I am not the only blind fool LOL > >Steve Hagerman > >http://www.thechurchofgod.org/doctrine.shtml > >http://www.dnspad.com/ > > > >Debian rocks > > > >-Original Message- > > From: Nathan E N

Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Grzegorz Kusnierz
Guys, PLEASE!! Peace is a problem of major importance, but it IS off-topic here. Please move to another group or use priv if you have some contrary opinions to discuss. greetz k. imagine all the people -- ___ |

Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Anders Prisak wrote: [...] > I tried really, really hard to stay out of this but this one is just too big > to let by. Yes, France has sold weapons to Irak. It has done so along with > the US, britain and germany. That was during

Re: secure documents - Was: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread thing
Andreas Kotes wrote: Hi! * Tom Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030312 03:13]: Solicitor/lawyer deposits a sensitive document on a "server" and only select ppl whom that lawyer selects can access or download that document. It must be secure, auditable and keep lawyers happy! well, in case y

secure documents - Was: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Tom Panning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030312 03:13]: > Solicitor/lawyer deposits a sensitive document on a "server" and only > select ppl whom that lawyer selects can access or download that > document. It must be secure, auditable and keep lawyers happy! well, in case you don't trust https et

Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
I'm trying to figure out what is missing. I've got a chrooted environment in which I'm building a base.tgz, and on some dpkg's I am getting errors: debsig-verify --list-policies dhcp-client_2.0pl5-11_i386.deb debsig: Listing usable policies debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might

Re: Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:59:26PM -0500, Hubert Chan wrote: > Perhaps in your non-chroot environment, you have debsig-verify turned > off in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg ("no-debsig" option). I got excited and thought you'd hit it... then I checked and found that both have no-debsig set. So I'm still at a

Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Anders Prisak
- Original Message - From: "Tomasz Rola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tomasz Rola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic [snip] > > Now, Germany, France and Russia don't want to loose their market

Re: Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> I'm trying to figure out what is missing. I've got a chrooted Dale> environment in which I'm building a base.tgz, and on some dpkg's I Dale> am getting errors: [snip] Debian packages are not signed, which is why debsig-verify fails. Da

Re: db2 and Debian

2003-03-11 Thread Tom Panning
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:09 am, thing wrote: > Steve Hagerman wrote: > >Thank You Nathan. Apears I am not the only blind fool LOL > >Steve Hagerman > >http://www.thechurchofgod.org/doctrine.shtml > >http://www.dnspad.com/ > > > >Debian rocks > > > >-Original Message- > > From: Nathan E N

Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Grzegorz Kusnierz
Guys, PLEASE!! Peace is a problem of major importance, but it IS off-topic here. Please move to another group or use priv if you have some contrary opinions to discuss. greetz k. imagine all the people -- ___ |

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Josh Carroll
It would be useful to have something that would take an IP address range and return the minimum coverage CIDR for that block (for use in feeding to iptables). For example, if I want to allow access for hosts 1.2.3.1 - 1.2.3.4, I currently can allow them individually or just allow the entire /24. B

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Frank Peters
Bill wrote: > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... Netmasks work using a binary logical AND operation. A few years ago, you would be using something like

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Bill
Thanks ian, Your pointer turned out to be most valuable. If anyone else wants to know I found this table most helpful. google search result on:howto CIDR range http://www.obfuscation.org/techs/cidr-conversion-table.html On March 11, 2003 03:51 pm, you wrote: >Bill, just a tip, but

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Shawn Wallbridge
This is an excellent guide to understanding IP addresses. http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf shawn > Hello Debian, > > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I unders

Question on debsig-verify

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
I'm trying to figure out what is missing. I've got a chrooted environment in which I'm building a base.tgz, and on some dpkg's I am getting errors: debsig-verify --list-policies dhcp-client_2.0pl5-11_i386.deb debsig: Listing usable policies debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: "Chris Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > I am someone who rarely (if ever) posts to this list. > What Ted and Thomas have said is reasonable. Of course its reasonable, in fact, why don't we move

Re: [OT] Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Anders Prisak
- Original Message - From: "Tomasz Rola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tomasz Rola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Peace is not off topic [snip] > > Now, Germany, France and Russia don't want to

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Nikolai Lusan
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Bill wrote: > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... All the numbers after a / define a subnet. For example a /24 subnet contais 256 a

RE: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread MacLeod, Alastair
Hi Consider each octet of an IP address in turn. Octet:- 256-(2^n(4)).256-(2^n(3)).256-(2^n(2)).256-(2^n(1)) start with n(1), then n(2) and through to n(4). where 0<=n(x)<=8 and x=1;x<=4;x++ and where x increments n(x-1)==8 always. and to get the prefix length /mm =32 - (sum n(x)) Alasta

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Josh Carroll
It would be useful to have something that would take an IP address range and return the minimum coverage CIDR for that block (for use in feeding to iptables). For example, if I want to allow access for hosts 1.2.3.1 - 1.2.3.4, I currently can allow them individually or just allow the entire /24. B

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Markus Schabel
Bill wrote: Hello Debian, I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... My question: what makes /27 significant X.Y.Z.224 - X.Y.Z.255 deny from 63.148.99.224/27

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Frank Peters
Bill wrote: > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... Netmasks work using a binary logical AND operation. A few years ago, you would be using something like

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Bill
Thanks ian, Your pointer turned out to be most valuable. If anyone else wants to know I found this table most helpful. google search result on:howto CIDR range http://www.obfuscation.org/techs/cidr-conversion-table.html On March 11, 2003 03:51 pm, you wrote: >Bill, just a tip, but

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ted Parvu wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote: > > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > > appropriate. > > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements. > > Th

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Shawn Wallbridge
This is an excellent guide to understanding IP addresses. http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf shawn > Hello Debian, > > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I unders

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: "Chris Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > I am someone who rarely (if ever) posts to this list. > What Ted and Thomas have said is reasonable. Of course its reasonable, in fact

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Douglas Blood
http://www.ralphb.net/IPSubnet/class_a.html That is a page I use whenever I need to do anything with subnets. It explains that the /27 subnet has 30 hosts. So if you only wanted to block hosts X.Y.Z.23 - X.Y.Z.55 I would do everything under 64.. otherwise you get into defining multiple subnets so

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Nikolai Lusan
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Bill wrote: > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... All the numbers after a / define a subnet. For example a /24 subnet contais 256 a

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread andrew lattis
On 2003/03/11 02:12:12PM -0600, Tue, Bill wrote: > Hello Debian, > > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... > > My question: what makes /27 significant >

RE: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread MacLeod, Alastair
Hi Consider each octet of an IP address in turn. Octet:- 256-(2^n(4)).256-(2^n(3)).256-(2^n(2)).256-(2^n(1)) start with n(1), then n(2) and through to n(4). where 0<=n(x)<=8 and x=1;x<=4;x++ and where x increments n(x-1)==8 always. and to get the prefix length /mm =32 - (sum n(x)) Alasta

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Markus Schabel
Bill wrote: Hello Debian, I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... My question: what makes /27 significant X.Y.Z.224 - X.Y.Z.255 deny from 63.148.99.224/27 Tha

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ted Parvu wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote: > > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > > appropriate. > > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements. > > Th

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Spencer
I am someone who rarely (if ever) posts to this list. What Ted and Thomas have said is reasonable. It's not a major problem to anyone here to filter an email if they don't want to see off topic messages. Just make it clear it's off topic. I suggest the [OT] tag is appropriate. It's bette

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Douglas Blood
http://www.ralphb.net/IPSubnet/class_a.html That is a page I use whenever I need to do anything with subnets. It explains that the /27 subnet has 30 hosts. So if you only wanted to block hosts X.Y.Z.23 - X.Y.Z.55 I would do everything under 64.. otherwise you get into defining multiple subnets so

Re: Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread andrew lattis
On 2003/03/11 02:12:12PM -0600, Tue, Bill wrote: > Hello Debian, > > I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others > searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. > I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... > > My question: what makes /27 significant >

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Spencer
I am someone who rarely (if ever) posts to this list. What Ted and Thomas have said is reasonable. It's not a major problem to anyone here to filter an email if they don't want to see off topic messages. Just make it clear it's off topic. I suggest the [OT] tag is appropriate. It's bette

Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Bill
Hello Debian, I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... My question: what makes /27 significant X.Y.Z.224 - X.Y.Z.255 deny from 63.148.99.224/27 Thanks P.s. fo

Blocking sub-range of IP addresses

2003-03-11 Thread Bill
Hello Debian, I want to block all ip's ending in 224 to 255 but not 220 and others searching the net I found I need to add "/27" to end of the ip. I understand /8 /16 /24 /32 somewhat but... My question: what makes /27 significant X.Y.Z.224 - X.Y.Z.255 deny from 63.148.99.224/27 Thanks P.s. fo

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Goodall
No no. I have had been having the problem for quite a few days :( besides I also use the www.mirror.ac.uk service too! - Original Message - From: "Desai, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: RE: iptables and apt-get > Hi. My guess is that securit

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Steve Johnson
Also, there's Debian-curiosa. And Ted, Your absolutely wrong, there are guidelings for this list and for all the other debian lists. You should go and read the follwing from the link below. http://www.foldoc.org/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=spam Which is linked directly from the Debian mailing list

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 12:06, Jeff wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Duzlevski, Ognen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > > > > Ted, > > > > please, take this somewhere else. In the pa

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Duzlevski, Ognen
Hi Thomas, don't get me wrong, I did not mean any disrespect for Ted or the list or anyone's opinions. I merely stated that there are better places to discuss the politics of war or today than here. I know there are filters - this is the first time I am actually considering using one. My point (wh

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Goodall
No no. I have had been having the problem for quite a few days :( besides I also use the www.mirror.ac.uk service too! - Original Message - From: "Desai, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: RE: iptables and apt-get > Hi. My gu

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
I agree with Nicolas and Ognen. There are lots of places for this kind of discussion OUT OF DEBIAN LISTS. Please, find appropriate place somewhere else. Thanks Vlada On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:30, Nicolas BLANC wrote: > > Ted, > > > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate h

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Steve Johnson
Also, there's Debian-curiosa. And Ted, Your absolutely wrong, there are guidelings for this list and for all the other debian lists. You should go and read the follwing from the link below. http://www.foldoc.org/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=spam Which is linked directly from the Debian mailing list

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 12:06, Jeff wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Duzlevski, Ognen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > > > > Ted, > > > > please, take this somewh

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Desai, Jason
Hi. My guess is that security.debian.org was not available when you tried it (there were other posts to this list indicating that the server was down). So you were getting icmp errors back. The RELATED state allows this. If security.debian.org was up and running, you probably would not have had

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread François TOURDE
Posted on announce on error... Here is my original post for security: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François TOURDE) writes: > I.R.van Dongen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - > > "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > >

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Duzlevski, Ognen
Hi Thomas, don't get me wrong, I did not mean any disrespect for Ted or the list or anyone's opinions. I merely stated that there are better places to discuss the politics of war or today than here. I know there are filters - this is the first time I am actually considering using one. My point (wh

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 16:28 schrieb Duzlevski, Ognen: > Ted, > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled > up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or > done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security > reas

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: "Duzlevski, Ognen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > Ted, > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled > up my mailbox - if I wanted su

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
I agree with Nicolas and Ognen. There are lots of places for this kind of discussion OUT OF DEBIAN LISTS. Please, find appropriate place somewhere else. Thanks Vlada On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:30, Nicolas BLANC wrote: > > Ted, > > > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate h

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Thomas" == Thomas Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Thomas> By the way, as people asked for licenses like Thomas> peace-only-use... Are there any licenses forbidding religious Thomas> people to use software? They don't need computers and internet, Thomas> they can pray all day long.

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Desai, Jason
Hi. My guess is that security.debian.org was not available when you tried it (there were other posts to this list indicating that the server was down). So you were getting icmp errors back. The RELATED state allows this. If security.debian.org was up and running, you probably would not have had

Re: STOP THE FUXXING PEACE TALKS!

2003-03-11 Thread Debian-lists
ise a filter on Peace is not off topic STOP THE FUXXING PEACE TALKS! and please mind your language. truely yours, Joost. > > BLOODY HELL, TAKE THIS SHIT OFF HERE. I AM GETTING ANNOYED BY USELESS > DISCUSSION OF THIS SORT ON *DEBIAN*-SECURITY. > > GO ELSEWHERE! > > -- > Please do not CC me w

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Nicolas BLANC
Ted, please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread François TOURDE
Posted on announce on error... Here is my original post for security: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François TOURDE) writes: > I.R.van Dongen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - > > "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > >

Mailing lists/Newsgroups 101 (was OT: Consensus)

2003-03-11 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 09:51, Ted Parvu wrote: > Hello Debian Community! > [***SNIP!!!***] > I would now like to demonstrate consensus in action. I have heard and > respect the voices of the community that cry, "off topic!". I ask that > you hear and respect the voices of the community who wa

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Victor Calzado Mayo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:48, Ian Goodall wrote: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an on

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:13:59PM +0100, I. R. van Dongen wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - > "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what t

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 16:28 schrieb Duzlevski, Ognen: > Ted, > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled > up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or > done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security > reas

RE: [OT][OT][OT][OT] Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Beach, Ken
If you are going to continue to post on this blatantly off topic subject, please at least keep the subject line consistent. You are making difficult to keep my procmail filters up to date. Regards, Ken

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: "Duzlevski, Ognen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Parvu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: Re: OT: Consensus > Ted, > > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled > up my mailb

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Duzlevski, Ognen
Ted, please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no m

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
Ian Goodall, 2003-Mar-11 14:48 -: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an online script generator at http://www.iptables.1go.dk/index1.php. Ip

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Andreas Vitz
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500 "Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out > way of life. And God bless all these good women and men going to fight > that insane leader Saddam. > We have struck a mighty blow against

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Thomas" == Thomas Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Thomas> By the way, as people asked for licenses like Thomas> peace-only-use... Are there any licenses forbidding religious Thomas> people to use software? They don't need computers and internet, Thomas> they can pray all day long.

Re: STOP THE FUXXING PEACE TALKS!

2003-03-11 Thread Debian-lists
ise a filter on Peace is not off topic STOP THE FUXXING PEACE TALKS! and please mind your language. truely yours, Joost. > > BLOODY HELL, TAKE THIS SHIT OFF HERE. I AM GETTING ANNOYED BY USELESS > DISCUSSION OF THIS SORT ON *DEBIAN*-SECURITY. > > GO ELSEWHERE! > > -- > Please do not CC me w

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread I . R . van Dongen
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an online script generator at htt

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Nicolas BLANC
Ted, please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no

Mailing lists/Newsgroups 101 (was OT: Consensus)

2003-03-11 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 09:51, Ted Parvu wrote: > Hello Debian Community! > [***SNIP!!!***] > I would now like to demonstrate consensus in action. I have heard and > respect the voices of the community that cry, "off topic!". I ask that > you hear and respect the voices of the community who wa

OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Ted Parvu
Hello Debian Community! I had hoped to hear from you, and hear from us we have. I look forward to hearing from more of you around our world. I would like to address some of the issues about this thread being off topic. The debian-security list is an open, unmoderated, list created with the int

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Marcel Hicking
Hi folks Now that we have a lot of positions expressed here and the thread is getting as emotional as one could expect from the topic: Let's proof the Debian community can do better and get along peacefully and productive despite the fact that we all have a different cultural and religious backgr

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Victor Calzado Mayo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:48, Ian Goodall wrote: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an on

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Goodall
All is fine now. Adding the line: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using an online script generator at http://www.iptables.1go.dk/index1.php. Thanks for all your help. This is the sort of thing

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:13:59PM +0100, I. R. van Dongen wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - > "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what t

RE: [OT][OT][OT][OT] Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Beach, Ken
If you are going to continue to post on this blatantly off topic subject, please at least keep the subject line consistent. You are making difficult to keep my procmail filters up to date. Regards, Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Duzlevski, Ognen
Ted, please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no m

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff
Ian Goodall, 2003-Mar-11 14:48 -: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an online script generator at http://www.iptables.1go.dk/index1.php. Ip

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Andreas Vitz
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500 "Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out > way of life. And God bless all these good women and men going to fight > that insane leader Saddam. > We have struck a mighty blow against

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread I . R . van Dongen
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:20 - "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All is fine now. Adding the line: > > iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using > an online script generator at htt

OT: Consensus

2003-03-11 Thread Ted Parvu
Hello Debian Community! I had hoped to hear from you, and hear from us we have. I look forward to hearing from more of you around our world. I would like to address some of the issues about this thread being off topic. The debian-security list is an open, unmoderated, list created with the int

Godwin call! (was Re: Peace is not off topic)

2003-03-11 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Ren? Seindal wrote: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote: > >> These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our >> nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is >> one thing going against it Is qui

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Marcel Hicking
Hi folks Now that we have a lot of positions expressed here and the thread is getting as emotional as one could expect from the topic: Let's proof the Debian community can do better and get along peacefully and productive despite the fact that we all have a different cultural and religious backgr

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread I . R . van Dongen
iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d /32 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:45:48 - "Ian Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close > everyting and then open up just ssh and ssl. This obviously prevents my >

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Goodall
All is fine now. Adding the line: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT fixes the problem. Does anyone know what this line does? I found this using an online script generator at http://www.iptables.1go.dk/index1.php. Thanks for all your help. This is the sort of thing

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Cesar Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 07:16]: > Well, I guess I am betraying you too, quite openly at that. What now? > Am I evil and insane, too? Would you like to "enforce" your laws on me > and my family? > > You better make sure I don't s

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread René Seindal
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:42:33PM -0500, Steve Hagerman wrote: > These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish that our > nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Voicing an opinion is > one thing going against it Is quite another. This is the kind of totalitarian attitude that

Re: Cheeseburgers and Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Jan Eringa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cheese burgers are a security risk to your : You should regularly install/reinstall the fibre.deb package at least 3 times a day. an this be automated? I think the fibre.deb meta package is provided by the fruit.deb & veg.deb packages. On Tuesday

Re: Cheeseburgers and Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Markus Welsch
Well I think it's just annoying, keeping us away from mails really related to Debian security. If you would like to discuss, why not simply create a forum and invite everybody to post there ... Don't you think it's quite enough and we should concentrate on the TOPIC this list was created for?

Re: Cheeseburgers and Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 06:35:33AM -0500, Jason Sopko wrote: > I'd like to discuss cheeseburgers and how they relate to Debian > security. I like mine cooked medium-well. Feel free to chime in with any > other issues not related to Debian security, such as cheeseburgers and > political views. Ma

Cheeseburgers and Peace is not off topic

2003-03-11 Thread Jason Sopko
I'd like to discuss cheeseburgers and how they relate to Debian security. I like mine cooked medium-well. Feel free to chime in with any other issues not related to Debian security, such as cheeseburgers and political views. Maybe we can turn it into one of those joke of the day lists. Wait, wa

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