Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
* Jean-Marc Boursot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010406 21:09]: > They allow telnet and not ssh? Nice! yeah, afraid of the port-forwarding capabilities in ssh. i can see their point but i'm just as leery of clear-text transmission. oh, well. > So you can turn it off. should of thought of that myself.

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 12:19:38AM -0500, Vinh Truong wrote: > * Patrick Maheral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010406 16:57]: > > > > Is the firewall blocking all traffic that has a destination port 22, or > > or a source port 22? If only the latter, you can tell your ssh client > > to use a high port nu

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
* Patrick Maheral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010406 16:57]: > > Is the firewall blocking all traffic that has a destination port 22, or > or a source port 22? If only the latter, you can tell your ssh client > to use a high port number. With OpenSSH, from work I use: > ssh -P home #

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
* Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010406 15:23]: > > Sounds like you need to talk to your firewall administrator. If you trust > him that is... How can you be sure that he's not snooping on the passing > telnet traffic? hmm, i thought that ssh encrypted traffic between server and client?

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
* Jean-Marc Boursot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010406 21:09]: > They allow telnet and not ssh? Nice! yeah, afraid of the port-forwarding capabilities in ssh. i can see their point but i'm just as leery of clear-text transmission. oh, well. > So you can turn it off. should of thought of that myself.

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Jean-Marc Boursot
On Friday 06 April 2001 17:31, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default > port 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly > because I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open > port 22 on the firewall. > They do

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
Ugh. Why did my apt-get dist-upgrades not mention or grab this package? Btw, now that's it's installed, it's logging correctly.. On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 02:26:31PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2255 > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Jean-Marc Boursot
On Friday 06 April 2001 17:31, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default > port 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly > because I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open > port 22 on the firewall. > They do

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Patrick Maheral
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:31:27AM -0500, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port > 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because > I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on > the firewall.

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
Ugh. Why did my apt-get dist-upgrades not mention or grab this package? Btw, now that's it's installed, it's logging correctly.. On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 02:26:31PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/2255 > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:31:27AM -0500, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port > 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because > I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on > the firewall.

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:39:47AM -0700, Eric N. Valor wrote: > Well, most folks like to connect to the Web, so port 80 is a must for that > (it's 2-way on the same port). 53 is required only if you're running BIND Is that true? I only block *incoming* port 80, but I'm still able to surf the

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:07:42PM -0400, Damian M Gryski wrote: > On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the > > >sysklogd cron.wee

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Patrick Maheral
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:31:27AM -0500, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port > 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because > I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on > the firewall.

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Damian M Gryski
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the > >sysklogd cron.weekly script. > > I'd guess that the daemon wasn't restarted after the logs

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the >sysklogd cron.weekly script. I'd guess that the daemon wasn't restarted after the logs were rotated, so that all the messages since have been w

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Apr-01, 12:39 (CDT), "Eric N. Valor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, most folks like to connect to the Web, so port 80 is a must for that ^^ Uh, no, that's not correct. Steve, refraining from several more sarcast

Re: sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:31:27AM -0500, Vinh Truong wrote: > I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port > 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because > I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on > the firewall.

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:39:47AM -0700, Eric N. Valor wrote: > Well, most folks like to connect to the Web, so port 80 is a must for that > (it's 2-way on the same port). 53 is required only if you're running BIND Is that true? I only block *incoming* port 80, but I'm still able to surf the

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Eric N. Valor
At 03:27 AM 4/6/2001 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:40:54PM -0700, Eric N. Valor wrote: > > I work from a default-deny stance. Usual things to then allow in would be > 25 (smtp), 80 (http), 22 (ssh, although be careful here), 53-UDP (DNS, if This strickes me as odd, warning to be

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:07:42PM -0400, Damian M Gryski wrote: > On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the > > >sysklogd cron.we

Re: apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Ilya Martynov
PS> Hello, PS> I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a PS> security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. PS> [..skip..] >> From my point of understanding Apache starts as root and then switches PS> to www-data. Ok, but does this mean, that a host mi

Re: apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philipp Schulte wrote: > I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a > security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. That process doesn't process requests, it only accepts connections and hands them off to the other process. It needs to run as

apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Philipp Schulte
Hello, I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. $ ps aux | grep apache says: root 513 0.0 1.0 2496 1276 ?S18:57 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache www-data 514 0.0 1.0 2520 1272 ?S

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Damian M Gryski
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the > >sysklogd cron.weekly script. > > I'd guess that the daemon wasn't restarted after the logs

Re: TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
This is a fairly common error w/ 2.4.x. Actually, error is the wrong word; more like warning. The only reason you're seeing it is because TCP_DEBUG is defined. If it's annoying, you can undefine it in linux/include/net/tcp.h. On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:03:40PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Damian M Gryski
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: > > "AS" == Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not sure if it has anything to do with the kernel. I dig a bit of digging on my system and, surprise surprise, March 18th was the last time kern.log and family were updated too. Now,

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Apr-01, 11:41 (CDT), Damian M Gryski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So, this for me pretty much nails it that something is borked with the >sysklogd cron.weekly script. I'd guess that the daemon wasn't restarted after the logs were rotated, so that all the messages since have been

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Apr-01, 12:39 (CDT), "Eric N. Valor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, most folks like to connect to the Web, so port 80 is a must for that ^^ Uh, no, that's not correct. Steve, refraining from several more sarcas

Re: TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > The IP address, obviously, has been replaced with x's here. I haven't > ever seen the message before. You should never get one. > Might this be an attempt at something like that? Might this merely have been > a packet that got horribly mangled somewhere on

TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
This was logged by one of my servers the other day (potato, upgraded with the necessary packages to run kernel 2.4.2): Mar 31 08:40:48 debian kernel: TCP: peer xxx.xx.xx.xx:41760/20 shrinks window 3735214707:8280:3735227987. Bad, what else can I say? The IP address, obviously, has been replaced w

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
> Any other ideas? I'm starting to wonder if this is a bug in the kernel, > or w/ the 2.4.3 w/ debian syslog interaction. Mar. 18 and 20th were the > last days something was logged; this coincides w/ when I switched to > 2.4.3-pre4 or 2.4.3-pre5 (according to timestamps on ftp.kernel.org). > Anyo

sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on the firewall. They do however allow telnet to the outside. I have commented out e

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:06:26AM -0500, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: > > I've noticed the same problem on my firewall system which is running > kernel-2.4.2 and sid: > > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:48 kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 18 06:48 lpr.log >

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:55:52AM -0300, H?lio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote: > > Verify if your "/etc/syslog.conf" is right: > > kern.* -/var/log/kern.log They are, in fact, tabs. Actually, the syslog.conf file is the one that came w/ debian's sysklogd package; i haven't touc

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Eric N. Valor
At 03:27 AM 4/6/2001 +0200, you wrote: >On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:40:54PM -0700, Eric N. Valor wrote: > > > > I work from a default-deny stance. Usual things to then allow in would be > > 25 (smtp), 80 (http), 22 (ssh, although be careful here), 53-UDP (DNS, if > >This strickes me as odd, warnin

Re: apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Ilya Martynov
PS> Hello, PS> I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a PS> security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. PS> [..skip..] >> From my point of understanding Apache starts as root and then switches PS> to www-data. Ok, but does this mean, that a host m

Re: apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philipp Schulte wrote: > I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a > security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. That process doesn't process requests, it only accepts connections and hands them off to the other process. It needs to run as

apache running as root?

2001-04-06 Thread Philipp Schulte
Hello, I am running Apache 1.3.9 and I am wondering, if this might be a security issue. There is always one Apache-process running as root. $ ps aux | grep apache says: root 513 0.0 1.0 2496 1276 ?S18:57 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache www-data 514 0.0 1.0 2520 1272 ?S

Re: TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
This is a fairly common error w/ 2.4.x. Actually, error is the wrong word; more like warning. The only reason you're seeing it is because TCP_DEBUG is defined. If it's annoying, you can undefine it in linux/include/net/tcp.h. On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:03:40PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Damian M Gryski
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: > > "AS" == Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not sure if it has anything to do with the kernel. I dig a bit of digging on my system and, surprise surprise, March 18th was the last time kern.log and family were updated too. Now

Re: TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > The IP address, obviously, has been replaced with x's here. I haven't > ever seen the message before. You should never get one. > Might this be an attempt at something like that? Might this merely have been > a packet that got horribly mangled somewhere on

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
On Friday 06 April 2001 03:47, Andres Salomon wrote: > i was playing w/ a kernel driver when i noticed the following: > > (machine 1) > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var/log/kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 2259 Mar 20 17:59 /var/log/kern.log.0 > > (machin

TCP windows shrinking

2001-04-06 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
This was logged by one of my servers the other day (potato, upgraded with the necessary packages to run kernel 2.4.2): Mar 31 08:40:48 debian kernel: TCP: peer xxx.xx.xx.xx:41760/20 shrinks window 3735214707:8280:3735227987. Bad, what else can I say? The IP address, obviously, has been replaced

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
> Any other ideas? I'm starting to wonder if this is a bug in the kernel, > or w/ the 2.4.3 w/ debian syslog interaction. Mar. 18 and 20th were the > last days something was logged; this coincides w/ when I switched to > 2.4.3-pre4 or 2.4.3-pre5 (according to timestamps on ftp.kernel.org). > Any

sshd port config and security

2001-04-06 Thread Vinh Truong
I have sshd set up on my machine at home. Instead of the default port 22, I uninstalled telnetd and run sshd on 23. I do this mostly because I want to ssh into my machine from work where they don't open port 22 on the firewall. They do however allow telnet to the outside. I have commented out

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:06:26AM -0500, S.Salman Ahmed wrote: > > I've noticed the same problem on my firewall system which is running > kernel-2.4.2 and sid: > > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:48 kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 18 06:48 lpr.log

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:55:52AM -0300, H?lio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote: > > Verify if your "/etc/syslog.conf" is right: > > kern.* -/var/log/kern.log They are, in fact, tabs. Actually, the syslog.conf file is the one that came w/ debian's sysklogd package; i haven't tou

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Jordan Bettis
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 02:47:30AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > i was playing w/ a kernel driver when i noticed the following: > > (machine 1) > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var/log/kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 2259 Mar 20 17:59 /var/log/kern.log.0

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
On Friday 06 April 2001 03:47, Andres Salomon wrote: > i was playing w/ a kernel driver when i noticed the following: > > (machine 1) > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var/log/kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 2259 Mar 20 17:59 /var/log/kern.log.0 > > (machi

Re: empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Jordan Bettis
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 02:47:30AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > i was playing w/ a kernel driver when i noticed the following: > > (machine 1) > -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var/log/kern.log > -rw-r-1 root adm 2259 Mar 20 17:59 /var/log/kern.log.

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Thor
hi [...] > If you disable icmp pings then you can hide from most scans. ... and you break also the RFC ... --- ;---+---; bye | bye |hor

empty log files

2001-04-06 Thread Andres Salomon
i was playing w/ a kernel driver when i noticed the following: (machine 1) -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var/log/kern.log -rw-r-1 root adm 2259 Mar 20 17:59 /var/log/kern.log.0 (machine 2) -rw-r-1 root adm 0 Mar 25 06:49 /var

Re: Ports to block?

2001-04-06 Thread Thor
hi [...] > If you disable icmp pings then you can hide from most scans. ... and you break also the RFC ... --- ;---+---; bye | bye |hor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]