Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Ruby 1.9.1 is supposed to be released in december 2007, and will be > ruby's stable release. > > There's a lot of things that should be discussed before that, and we > don't have much time: The ruby packaging policy has been discussed off and on but never concludes into a

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Grabber [Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:38:25 -0300]: > Why we need have packages from gems in Debian? Why we not use gems same at > cpan? I'm not sure you mean this, but many software available from CPAN is packaged for Debian in the official repositories as well. -- Adeodato Simó

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 18/10/07 at 23:38 -0300, Grabber wrote: > Why we need have packages from gems in Debian? Why we not use gems same at > cpan? I'm not sure of what you mean with "why we not use gems same at cpan". We in any case, Debian's SC states that "our priorities are our users and free software". ;)

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Grabber
Why we need have packages from gems in Debian? Why we not use gems same at cpan? Regards, Luiz Vitor Martinez Cardoso. On 10/18/07, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19/10/07 at 00:50 +0200, Vincent Fourmond wrote: > > > > Hello again, > > > > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > - rubyge

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/10/07 at 00:50 +0200, Vincent Fourmond wrote: > > Hello again, > > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > - rubygems. ruby 1.9.1 will include rubygems in stdlib (it hasn't been > > imported yet, according to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This means that we > > will have to decide whether we continue to pack

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/10/07 at 00:40 +0200, Vincent Fourmond wrote: > - we must patch Ruby to add the above directory in its search path > (which should be first /usr/local, then /usr/lib/ruby/dist, and finally > ruby's stdlib) I think that this can be done at configure time. Also, we should _really_ find a com

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Hello again, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > - rubygems. ruby 1.9.1 will include rubygems in stdlib (it hasn't been > imported yet, according to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This means that we > will have to decide whether we continue to package libs from .tgz, or > if we want to package some rubygems too

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/10/07 at 00:12 +0200, Mathieu Blondel wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> I think that packages installed by hand go to >> /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8, at least when installed with setup.rb. It >> would be really wrong if packages installed by hand would go somewhere >> under /usr/lib/. >>

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Hello ! Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >>> - library installation paths (see #446220): >>> a common complain heard about Debian's ruby is that we install all >>> libs in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8, mixing stdlib and third party libs. It >>> would be a good idea to move away from th

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Mathieu Blondel
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I think that packages installed by hand go to /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8, at least when installed with setup.rb. It would be really wrong if packages installed by hand would go somewhere under /usr/lib/. In my mind, site_ruby is for libs and programs installed by hand.

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/10/07 at 21:11 +0200, Mathieu Blondel wrote: > Hi > > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> - library installation paths (see #446220): >> a common complain heard about Debian's ruby is that we install all >> libs in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8, mixing stdlib and third party libs. It >> would be a good idea t

Re: ruby 1.9.1 will be ruby's stable release in december

2007-10-18 Thread Mathieu Blondel
Hi Lucas Nussbaum wrote: - library installation paths (see #446220): a common complain heard about Debian's ruby is that we install all libs in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8, mixing stdlib and third party libs. It would be a good idea to move away from that in ruby1.9. It's not so much related to the