Re: point release versioning

2000-08-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:17:24PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer écrivait: > Oh dear. I see a terrible thing there that I'd classify as a beginners error. > There are no quotes. Not around $DEBVERSION, but that was (until now) no big > problem. $dir isn't quoted. And $dir can be anything, even > "something ;

Re: point release versioning

2000-08-03 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On 3 Aug 2000, Philip Hands wrote: > with a space before the r, to emphasise the point that the revision > number is largely irrelevant to users when it's so easy to use apt-get Yet someone sometime started to call it "point _

Re: point release versioning

2000-08-03 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On 3 Aug 2000, Philip Hands wrote: > "J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And IMHO 2.2r0 sounds much better than 2.2_r0 - so I'd suggest having a > > DEBVERSION="2.2r0" for the official CDs that will be made in 1.5 weeks or > > so. > > IIRC the right way of writing the full version

Re: point release versioning

2000-08-03 Thread Philip Hands
"J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And IMHO 2.2r0 sounds much better than 2.2_r0 - so I'd suggest having a > DEBVERSION="2.2r0" for the official CDs that will be made in 1.5 weeks or so. IIRC the right way of writing the full version was supposed to be: X.Y rZ with a space before th

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-03 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> Let's make it explicit and call it 2.2r0. The "r" should prevent >> confusion with kernels. We know what we mean, but other people could be >> confused. I think the 'r' notation is evil, and strongly suggest we use a simple sequence of digits, like

Re: point release versioning

2000-08-02 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Philip Charles wrote: > Let's make it explicit and call it 2.2r0. The "r" should prevent > confusion with kernels. We know what we mean, but other people could be > confused. I agree with that. AFAIK the CD's volume ID (& .disk/info & README) is the only place this occurs a

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > Just couldn't help but add my $0.02! For the M$ server products (NT and > 2000), the initial release is always Service Pack 1. That is not true. A service pack is a collection of hotfixes and other (sometimes major) changes. For example the first servi

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Jens Müller
- Original Message - From: "Philip Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Schulze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Ben Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Philip Hands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
Hey! Just couldn't help but add my $0.02! For the M$ server products (NT and 2000), the initial release is always Service Pack 1. It seems odd to me (not really, I just consider the source) that the initial release of a software package has a service pack already. I would therefore state

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Philip Charles
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Martin Schulze wrote: > Philip Charles wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > IIRC, the second release of 2.1 was called 2.1r2 to avoid the confusion > > > > I > > > > am in the process of creating. We may mean the "r" to mean "revision", > >

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 04:40:30AM +, Philip Charles wrote: > Agree about it being confusing. If we want to keep "r" meaning > "revision", what about calling this one 2.2r0? This way we could simply call it 2.2.0 (not so bad idea anyway, but may be confused with kernel versions).

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-02 Thread Martin Schulze
Philip Charles wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > > IIRC, the second release of 2.1 was called 2.1r2 to avoid the confusion I > > > am in the process of creating. We may mean the "r" to mean "revision", > > > but many people would interpret it as "release" and so would

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > IIRC, the second release of 2.1 was called 2.1r2 to avoid the confusion I > > am in the process of creating. We may mean the "r" to mean "revision", > > but many people would interpret it as "release" and so would see 2.2 as > > being identical wit

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Ben Collins
> > IIRC, the second release of 2.1 was called 2.1r2 to avoid the confusion I > am in the process of creating. We may mean the "r" to mean "revision", > but many people would interpret it as "release" and so would see 2.2 as > being identical with 2.2r1. > But still, if we are going to make th

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 10:55:09PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > Previously Philip Hands wrote: > > > > > Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? > > > > > > > > The first revision will be

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 10:55:09PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Previously Philip Hands wrote: > > > > Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? > > > > > > The first revision will be 2.2r1 > > > > That's interesting -- there was no 2.1r1

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Philip Hands
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Philip Hands wrote: > > > Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? > > > > The first revision will be 2.2r1 > > That's interesting -- there was no 2.1r1. See > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/ChangeLog which begins with > 2

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Philip Hands wrote: > > Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? > > The first revision will be 2.2r1 That's interesting -- there was no 2.1r1. See ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/ChangeLog which begins with 2.1r2. -- see shy jo

Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philip Hands wrote: > Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? The first revision will be 2.2r1, but we'll do a second revision as well at some point. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \

point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

2000-08-01 Thread Philip Hands
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think that the way add-bin-doc currently detects a dedication is going > to fail as soon as we release 2.2 r2 -- then DEBVERSION will be 2.2_r2, > and the test will fail. Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1? Just thought we should sort this out before it happens.