Re: m68k release future

2006-10-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 01:46:24PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Wouter? Michael? Sorry. Ack, on all this. It sounds like the best thing to do. Now all I need is to make some time to figure out how all this is supposed to work, and I can jump in. -- Home is where you have to wash the dishes.

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-30 Thread Michael Schmitz
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 11:34:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > No, I just like to know what we're trying to achieve before starting to > > do anything. > > > > Okay, so the idea is: > > > > (a) move m68k from etch to testing-m68k Ack. > > (b) automatically promote m68k packages from uns

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 11:34:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > No, I just like to know what we're trying to achieve before starting to > do anything. > > Okay, so the idea is: > > (a) move m68k from etch to testing-m68k > > (b) automatically promote m68k packages from unstable to testing-m

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > Okay, so the idea is: > > (a) move m68k from etch to testing-m68k > > (b) automatically promote m68k packages from unstable to testing-m68k > when the same version gets promoted into etch. Which, since no special britney run is done, makes it absolutely and exac

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 11:34:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > (d) over time, improve the promotion rules for testing-m68k to be > a proper m68k-only britney run with appropriate criteria for > m68k (for example, counting debian-68k@lists.debian.org:m68k-rc > usertagged bugs a

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 28 October 2006 03:34, Anthony Towns wrote: > (a) move m68k from etch to testing-m68k > > (b) automatically promote m68k packages from unstable to testing-m68k > when the same version gets promoted into etch. (b1) Get the installer to support the testing-m68k and possibly als

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > testing-m68k == having something that updates from unstable at its own > > pace for m68k only. That might mean lagging behind the real testing if > > there are toolchain problems, eg. If you wanted it to, it could mean > > advanci

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Isn't it going to be so that we'd be able to do our own > > > arch-specific NMUs in both cases? Or is it in both cases going to be a > > > matter of deciding which package will be part

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Michael Schmitz
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Um, I think I've missed something. What'd be the functional difference > > between the two? > > testing-m68k == having something that updates from unstable at its own > pace for m68k onl

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> Um, I think I've missed something. What'd be the functional difference >> between the two? > > testing-m68k == having something that updates from unstable at its own > pace for m68k only. That might mean

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Um, I think I've missed something. What'd be the functional difference > between the two? testing-m68k == having something that updates from unstable at its own pace for m68k only. That might mean lagging behind the real testing i

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:47:19PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > Personally, I think m68k would be better served by having a testing-m68k >> > and taking occassional snapshots which serve as the supported stable-m68k >> > rele

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:47:19PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Personally, I think m68k would be better served by having a testing-m68k > > > and taking occassional snapshots which serve as the supp

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 06:38:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 08:21:15PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > >(c) not bother with an etch-equivalent release for m68k > > I'm not sure about this. I'd sure like to have some form of stable, even > > if we only do base an

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:43:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > The only problem right now is our backlog and we'll hopefully > > see soon how quickly it can be reduced via distcc. > FWIW, that would be a lot more convincing if it had happened a year ago > when it was last suggested... > http:

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:47:19PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Personally, I think m68k would be better served by having a testing-m68k > > and taking occassional snapshots which serve as the supported stable-m68k > > release, rather than worrying abou

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > Personally, I think m68k would be better served by having a testing-m68k > and taking occassional snapshots which serve as the supported stable-m68k > release, rather than worrying about something equivalent to etch itself. Why should we do this? A

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 08:21:15PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > >(c) not bother with an etch-equivalent release for m68k > I'm not sure about this. I'd sure like to have some form of stable, even > if we only do base and security-support base-type packages. I'd hate to > have to maintain

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: >> >>(a) keep building unstable as per usual A per architecture tracking of arch:all package would be ni

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-24 Thread Michael Schmitz
> * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061023 20:58]: > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > I'd suggest it'd probably be ideal to have either two or three people > > > doing it -- you have to already be a DD though. It might also be > > > worthwhile to join the

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061023 20:58]: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I'd suggest it'd probably be ideal to have either two or three people > > doing it -- you have to already be a DD though. It might also be > > worthwhile to join the RM team as

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Hey all, > > So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: > >(a) keep building unstable as per usual > >(b) maintain a separate testing-like suite for m68k based on (and >thus probably trailing) the r

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-21 Thread Michael Schmitz
> So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: > >(a) keep building unstable as per usual ack ... > >(b) maintain a separate testing-like suite for m68k based on (and >thus probably trailing) the real testing, maintained by m68k >porters, that is installable

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-20 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Hey all, > > So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: > >(a) keep building unstable as per usual ack >(b) maintain a separate testing-like suite for m68k based on (and >thus probably trailing) th

m68k release future

2006-10-20 Thread Anthony Towns
Hey all, So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: (a) keep building unstable as per usual (b) maintain a separate testing-like suite for m68k based on (and thus probably trailing) the real testing, maintained by m68k porters, that is installable (using d-i