Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-24 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > > On the downside, it doesn't care about priorities, and doesn't list > > explanations (it seems hard to work out what's at fault when conflicts > > are involved). > > I'm curious, what exactly do you do with conflic

Re: file RC bugs for potato uninstallable pkgs (was Re: Please release 2.1r6)

2000-04-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On 22 Apr 2000, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > > FWIW, http://auric.debian.org/~ajt/potato_probs.html has similar lists, > > except it will choose whichever of perl or perl5 that works, and not > > worry that the other one doesn't. It also takes Conflicts into account. > > > >

file RC bugs for potato uninstallable pkgs (was Re: Please release 2.1r6)

2000-04-22 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Anthony Towns writes: > FWIW, http://auric.debian.org/~ajt/potato_probs.html has similar lists, > except it will choose whichever of perl or perl5 that works, and not > worry that the other one doesn't. It also takes Conflicts into account. > > On the downside, it doesn't care about priorities,

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > On the downside, it doesn't care about priorities, and doesn't list > explanations (it seems hard to work out what's at fault when conflicts > are involved). I'm curious, what exactly do you do with conflicts? Detect depend<->conflict problems (ie a depends on b w

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 06:22:26PM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait: > > What I don't understand is why this makes it impossible to generate > > CD's. Is debian-cd so fragile that it dies on an unmet dependency? > > Yes. No. Debian-cd copes quite well with it, it refuses to include packages with u

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, J.A. Bezemer wrote: **cut > Which stresses an important point: the Debian distribution isn't anymore only > about FTP archives, but CDs are becoming increasingly important. This is taken > care for nicely with the potato test cycles, but as soon as `stable' things > are conce

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 02:14:43AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Santiago Vila wrote: > > Well, apache-ssl's Depends line contains "perl | perl5" > We can argue if it is a bug; I wrote the code to verify that all > options can be fullfilled. [...] FWIW, http://auric.debian.org/~ajt/p

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Santiago Vila wrote: > Well, apache-ssl's Depends line contains "perl | perl5" > perl5 is provided by perl-5.005 which has "Priority: important", so > the dependency is actually satisfied, and apache-ssl does not depend on > an extra package. We can argue if it is a bug; I wrote the cod

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-21 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Jim Westveer wrote: > > Ok, how about making sure that there are no package dependancy > errors in the resulting update. (ie apt-get check?) > > The problem at the moment is that slink on ftp.d.o currently > has a dependancy error with the packages w3-el* because > emacs

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > > ATTN ftpmasters: > > > > To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be > > released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > > > Acco

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Could you release that list so the packages can be fixed? I don't want > > potato to be the worst Debian release ever. > > http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/unmet.html Some of the

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Could you release that list so the packages can be fixed? I don't want > potato to be the worst Debian release ever. http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/unmet.html If you think that's enough to make potato the worst Debian release

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > For some values of "relatively". The i386 tree, counting only main, > currently has 6 unsatisfied Depends relationships that I know of. > I can probably eliminate all but two of them before the release. > (The exeptions are libglide2-v3 depending on device3dfx-module, > w

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 09:26:33AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > With a big enough hammer, you can force anything. > > Yes, you can force the creation of CD's, but then you get > a CD that has software that is NOT installable, in this case > w3-el. It would seem that the "correct" thing to do woul

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. > > Presumably using a smarter tool than debian-cd, then.

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:39:03PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. > > Presumably u

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. Presumably using a smarter tool than debian-cd, then. potato has a number of open depen

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 06:12:08PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation o

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Westveer
On 20-Apr-2000 Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: >> I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree >> without documenting the changes, but the current errors >> in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this >> d

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this > > dependancy pr

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this > dependancy problem. What I don't understand

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Westveer
On 20-Apr-2000 Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: >> ATTN ftpmasters: >> >> To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be >> released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > And have slink cha

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > ATTN ftpmasters: > > To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be > released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > According to release procedures we're currently trying out, the "

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-19 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Vincent Renardias wrote: > hello, > > Here's the list (attached) of the packages that should be added to slink > before to release 2.1r6. ATTN ftpmasters: To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be released right after the included "w