Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-16 Thread David Prévot
Hi, Thanks Andreas for your work on util-linux, it’s really appreciated. Le 15/11/2014 17:57, Andreas Henriksson a écrit : > I really don't understand why we're having this discussion now at all. > Where where everyone before the freeze? The whole message seems unneededly harsh, but as a data p

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Henriksson writes: > I see a cron job as a complement that caters to the niche which does not > use the default init in Jessie. Saying that people who don't install > cron don't get their SSDs trimmed is just stupid. Speciall since > installing cron also pulls in a full MTA. Why would any

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-15 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello intrigeri! On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:51:53PM +0100, intrigeri wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > Agreed. I think we should ship the cronjob by default in Jessie. > Andreas, what do you think? What I've seen so far is people suggesting to use a cron job /instead of/ the systemd units shipped by upst

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-15 Thread intrigeri
Hi Andreas, Martin Pitt wrote (10 Nov 2014 09:19:06 GMT) : > I agree. In Ubuntu we've carried this for a while now: > | $ cat /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim > | #!/bin/sh > | # trim all mounted file systems which support it > | /sbin/fstrim --all || true > This is init system agnostic, and with anacron

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-10 Thread Martin Pitt
Russ Allbery [2014-11-06 22:13 -0800]: > The concern with the service unit is that it's only a service unit with no > corresponding init script. If the behavior is a good idea, we should do > it regardless of the init system, I would think I agree. In Ubuntu we've carried this for a while now: |

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Henriksson writes: > Apart from that, others have expressed that we're apparently not yet > mentally ready for shipping systemd units in Debian. I wouldn't put it quite this way. Rather, I'd say that maintaining feature parity between sysvinit and systemd wherever possible for jessie is

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Gerrit Pape writes: > Hi, installing the unit files, which AFAICS entered jessie quite > recently, also introduced a dependency on init-system-helpers and in > turn on perl, making perl pseudo-essential (#757891). Can we revert > this too? Any package shipping systemd units, which will certainl

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 05:26:04PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: > Hi, installing the unit files, which AFAICS entered jessie quite > recently, also introduced a dependency on init-system-helpers and in > turn on perl, making perl pseudo-essential (#757891). Can we revert > this too? This dependency

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:13:01PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > Explanation of changes: > > Martin Pitt reported fstrim taking a long time on his system and > in combination with init-system-helpers (dh_systemd) starting > the fstrim /service/ in postinst this will make the package > upgrade

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 05:09:43PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > Why not do that in postinst when you know deb-systemd-helper is > available? You mean switch from preinst upgrade to postinst configure... sure could do that. On the other hand, if we're upgrading from the given version then we alre

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 14:13:01 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > diff -Nru util-linux-2.25.2/debian/util-linux.preinst > util-linux-2.25.2/debian/util-linux.preinst > --- util-linux-2.25.2/debian/util-linux.preinst 1970-01-01 > 01:00:00.0 +0100 > +++ util-linux-2.25.2/debian/uti

Bug#768315: unblock: util-linux/2.25.2-3

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock I'm seeking pre-approval for a not-yet-uploaded version of util-linux. Justification: probably better to revert and postpone to Jessie+1. Bug number/severity: #767194 important Changelog en