Bug#831699: release.debian.org: urgency is sticky across dists - low urgency on sid upload ignored after previous experimental medium-urgency upload

2016-07-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 07:41:54PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Package: release.debian.org > Severity: normal > User: release.debian@packages.debian.org > Usertags: britney > > Hello, > > I have been wondering why hugin 2016.2.0~rc1+dfsg-2 (urgency=low) will > be considered for testing mi

Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#684029: ia32-libs-i386: Please, downgrade ldap depends to recommends

2012-08-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 05:38:58PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:16:36 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:28:35PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > > > Package: ia32-libs-i386 > > > Version: 2

Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#684029: ia32-libs-i386: Please, downgrade ldap depends to recommends

2012-08-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:28:35PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Package: ia32-libs-i386 > Version: 20120701 > Severity: normal > > Currently, ia32-libs-i386 depends on > libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.23-7.2) > libnss-ldap (>= 264-2.2) > libpam-ldap (>= 184-8.5) > > I understand that, on systems whe

Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:53:26PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:13 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > [...] > > > - libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2), libdb4.8 (>= 4.8.30-2), &g

Re: BinNMU changelog handling for Multi-Arch: same packages

2012-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 08:59:38AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:23:05 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > 2/ we modify dpkg to allow co-installation of M-A: same packages which > > > share the > > >same source version re

Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > [Dropped pkg-db-devel from Cc because it apparently doesn't accept posts > from non-subscribers] > > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: >> Looking at the package currently in unstable, I do have to ask what >> happened to: >> >> ia32-libs-20120

Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Joachim writes: > Package: ia32-libs-i386 > Version: 20120616 > Severity: serious > > Your package depends on libdb4.8 which is no longer available in > unstable. It is still in wheezy. I assume it is going to be removed there as well? Dear Release Team, as per http://release.debian.org/

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:57:29PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> > Release notes are meant to be read once, not every time you upgrade a >> > system. Having a debconf note once might be appropriate. The second >> > time, you'll go "right, I've seen that before". The thi

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >> > Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 &&am

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 06/23/2012 02:18 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Problem is that frontends will complain about ia32-libs being not >> upgradable and might suggest removing it instead of keeping it back way >> before that. At the time base-file is upgraded ia

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On 22.06.2012 15:31, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine,

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes writes: > On 06/22/2012 04:31 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>>> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >&g

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >> Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update >> Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is now installabl

The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, two weeks ago we hit a huge milestone with multiarch and wine:i386 became installable on amd64. Last week we hit another milestone so that ia32-libs became mostly installable (it might still want to remove some amd64 packages in the process depending on what you have installed). As a conseque

Re: Migration path for 'Multi-Arch:allowed' packages

2012-06-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth writes: > * David Kalnischkies (kalnischk...@gmail.com) [120612 18:03]: >> You need to upgrade to support MultiArch, >> but you need MultiArch to upgrade… >> (beside, how would the detection for such a message look like?) > > We had discussed to export foreign-arch packages to the

Re: Handling of changelogs and bin-nmus

2012-06-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Guillem Jover writes: > On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 14:40:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Guillem Jover wrote: >> > As I mentioned in the long ref-counting thread, I strongly disagree this >> > is a correct solution, it just seems like a hack to me. Instead I >> > think we shou

Re: binNMUing on some architectures breaks Multi-arch: same

2012-04-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On 11.04.2012 10:30, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> The current state is that M-A: same packages must have the same >> version >> and identical Changelog files across all architectures. That means >> binNMU on all architectures

Re: binNMUing on some architectures breaks Multi-arch: same

2012-04-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julien Cristau writes: > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:15:58 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > >> Discussion in Bug#595139 led to the conclusion that packages which are >> Multi-arch: same must not be binNMUed (or in fact, binNMUed on all >> architectures). >> > I very much disagree with that "co

Can we do this? [Was: Re: How to tell users that ia32-libs will go away]

2012-02-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Dear ftp-master, > > I wonder if the solution below for transitioning ia32-libs to multiarch > would be OK in regards to DAK and testing transition etc. Any technical > problems why we couldn't make an exception for the 3 ia32-libs* packages &g

Re: Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

2012-02-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: > On Wed, February 15, 2012 13:49, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> On Wed, February 15, 2012 13:42, Adam D. Barratt wrote: >>> On 15.02.2012 12:31, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>>> Should ia32-libs be updated? >>> >>

Re: Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

2012-02-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 23:05 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: >> Working on the four-monthly schedule for oldstable, the next lenny point >> release would be due in early February. >> >> As the security team have recently confirmed that security support for >> lenny will

Re: Uploading linux-2.6 (3.1.5-1)

2011-12-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings writes: > I intend to upload linux-2.6 version 3.1.5-1 to unstable this weekend. > This is another upstream stable update. It also includes a fix for the > FTBFS on mips/mipsel in 3.1.4-1. > > No ABI bump seems to be necessary. > > Ben. Shouldn't that be linux-3 or just plain linu

Re: Multiarch support in dpkg really in time for wheezy?

2011-11-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog writes: > Hi, > > I'll try to share some news with the release team. > > On Sat, 22 Oct 2011, Guillem Jover wrote: >> What I'll do though, when I get back home tomorrow from my current >> trip, is to push already reviewed stuff and keep pushing incrementally, >> instead of my usua

Re: Multiarch support in dpkg really in time for wheezy?

2011-11-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> What worries me is that there is multi-arch work in dpkg, work that has >> its origins in Debian. That work is ready enough to be deployed in >> popular Debian derivatives such as Ubuntu, but is not in Debian

Re: Release goal proposal: Archive-wide build-arch and build-indep support

2011-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Niels Thykier writes: > On 2011-11-05 21:22, Niels Thykier wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I would like to propose the goal of getting archive-wide support for >> the optional debian/rules targets "build-arch" and "build-indep". >> The intention is to finally solve issues like #619284 and the goal >> is

Bug#611851: unblock: ia32-libs-core/20110202

2011-02-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Philipp Kern writes: > On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:57:12AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> On Wed, February 2, 2011 22:14, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > PS: The sources are on mentors and need a sponsor for the upload. Thijs? >> > unblock ia32-libs-core/2011

Bug#611851: unblock: ia32-libs-core/20110202

2011-02-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: unblock Please unblock packages ia32-libs-core, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk. The last upload made by Thijs Kinkhorst to fix security concerns and to add the security repository to the sources ia32-

Re: Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-12-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thijs Kinkhorst writes: > On Tuesday 07 December 2010 18:01:05 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Uploading ia32-libs-core_20101207_source to mentors. Sponsors >> welcome. > > I have uploaded this now. I think this needs unblocking so that ia32-libs can > also migrate. >

Re: Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-12-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 08:37 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> On Thursday 18 November 2010 22:24:01 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 14:26:07 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > > ia32-libs-core (2010

Re: Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thijs Kinkhorst writes: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 14:26:07 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> ia32-libs-core (20101117) unstable; urgency=low >> ia32-libs (20101117) unstable; urgency=low > > I just uploaded these to sid. > > I hope they can be unblocked and

Re: Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thijs Kinkhorst writes: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 14:26:07 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> ia32-libs-core (20101117) unstable; urgency=low >> ia32-libs (20101117) unstable; urgency=low > > I just uploaded these to sid. Thx. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSC

Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
f no-one beats me to it and if > the release team approves the change for squeeze. Hi, I've just uploaded an updated ia32-libs-core and ia32-libs to mentors: ia32-libs-core (20101117) unstable; urgency=low . [ Goswin von Brederlow ] * Replace lib32icu42 with lib32icu44. * Upda

Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:21:19 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 15:41:56 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> >> > As for ia32-libs, I would be willing to sponsor it but I don't think we >> > should be making uploads for such trivial cleanup operations,

Bug#596899: Please unblock ia32-libs/20101012

2010-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:21:19 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 15:41:56 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> >> > As for ia32-libs, I would be willing to sponsor it but I don't think we >> > should be making uploads for such trivial cleanup operations,

Are read-only / install bugs RC?

2010-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I recently did a squeeze install with read-only / and /usr and found a few minor glitches: * ifupdown installed without /dev/shm mounted * /etc/mtab not a link to /proc/mounts * /etc/fstab lists the device for proc as "proc", system says "none", mounting local filesystems gives error * lvm

Bug#596899: unblock: ia32-libs/20100914

2010-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Philipp Kern writes: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 08:16:41PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: >> > You can't build 32bit packages for amd64 in a 32bit chroot. That results >> > in the wrong arch and wrong dependencies. >> But you can use i386 packages on amd64 in a 32bit chroot. That results >> in much

Re: Pre-approval request for dpkg sync() changes for squeeze

2010-10-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Phillip Susi writes: > On 10/22/2010 5:35 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: >> 1) Switch back from sync() to fsync() before rename() (while keeping > > Don't you WANT to use sync? If you fsync every file that is going to be > rather slow since it forces a disk write for every file, rather than > allowi

Bug#596899: unblock: ia32-libs/20100914

2010-10-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julien Cristau writes: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 16:12:13 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Julien Cristau writes: >> >> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 23:15:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > >> >> Please unblock package ia32-libs and i

Bug#596899: unblock: ia32-libs/20100914

2010-10-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julien Cristau writes: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 23:15:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Please unblock package ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk >> > Some more questions now that 20101012 has been uploaded: > - what's the point of the ia32-libs-dev package? n

Re: Advance freeze exception request for libcgi-application-extra-plugin-bundle-perl

2010-10-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mehdi Dogguy writes: > On 10/13/2010 11:41 AM, Nicholas Bamber wrote: >> Mehdi, When 0.2 was built there was a hope of getting it into >> squeeze. I can understand if the boat was missed on that a long time >> ago. >> >> The issue with #593102 is that the usptream component has an odd >> layo

Bug#596899: unblock: ia32-libs/20100914

2010-09-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
FS: Can you check your source tree and remove debian/lib32gcc1* (see below) and then upload 20100927 from git please? Julien Cristau writes: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 23:15:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Please unblock package ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk >> &

Bug#596899: unblock: ia32-libs/20100914

2010-09-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, ia32-libs has been updated again to fix an unreported RC bug (uninstallable on ia64), a simple bug and to cover package updates in squeeze: --- ia32-libs (20100919) unstable; urgency=high * Make dependency on lib32bz2-

Bug#596132: nmu: ia32-libs_20090808

2010-09-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: release.debian.org Severity: normal User: release.debian@packages.debian.org Usertags: binnmu Hi, the build of ia32-libs for ia64 on the recent upload was broken and the dependencies of the package are wrong. This was a problem of the build environment and it should work fine on the

Re: ia32-libs update for lenny

2010-01-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 15:42 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> I've prepared an ia32-libs update for lenny and Frederik Schueler will >> sponsor the upload soon. The upload brings ia32-libs back in sync with >>

Re: ia32-libs update for lenny

2010-01-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julien Cristau writes: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 15:42:22 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >>* Add misc depends for debhelper. >>* Add lots of lintian overrides where nothing can be done about them. >>* Bump debhelper compat to 5. > > These don&

Re: ia32-libs update for lenny

2010-01-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi again, Martin Zobel-Helas mentioned I should have added a full diff for approval. Well, the full diff would be basically the full 282MiB source package as it contains all the deb and orig.tar.gz of the packages. You can download it from mentors.debian.net. I listed all the packages changed in

ia32-libs update for lenny

2010-01-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
oswin -- -- Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:05:22 +0100 Source: ia32-libs Binary: ia32-libs ia32-libs-dev lib32gcc1 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.7+lenny1 Distribution: stable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian ia32-libs Team Changed-By: Goswin von Bred

Re: Please, unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1

2009-11-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Rogério Brito writes: > Hi, Luk. > > On Nov 05 2009, Luk Claes wrote: >> Rogério Brito wrote: >> > So, I would appreciate if you could unblock youtube-dl/2009.09.13-1, as >> >> Will it survive interface/protocol changes? > > Really, I don't know and I can't give any assurance, but upstream is

Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union

2009-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Matthijs Kooijman wrote: >> Or is the second step in this release goal of actually using the new source >> format for all (or at least a lot?) packages? > > Yes. I'd like to achieve this by changing dpkg-source to build 3.0 (quilt) > or 3.0 (native)

Re: Upcoming Lenny point release

2009-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, please coordinate with Mark Hymers, the current ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk maintainer, about security and proposed updates in those two packages. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

Re: aptitude plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Burrows writes: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 02:41:08PM +0200, Marc Brockschmidt > was heard to say: >> Heya, >> >> As announced on dda [RT1], we want to get an impression when releasing >> Squeeze is feasible. We have proposed a (quite ambitious) freeze in December >> 2009, and some devel

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >>include files in the multiarch locations. >> Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-b

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Barth skrev: >> * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: >>> I suspect by the time a fully working multiarch is done, x86 won't need >>> it anymore because everything will be fully 64bit. :) > > As Wine maintainer, I'd disagree with th

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> > Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >> >include files

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >>include files in the multiarch locations. >> Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-b

RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I would like to suggest a new release goal and hope that some DDs will advocate it. This one is actualy quite trivial but some convincing seems to be neccessary to get it done: # Multiarch capable toolchain Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include files

Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.

2006-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, ... > > As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be > uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. > > It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural > tentative schedule of let's say mond

Re: "known issues"-section in release notes

2006-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > there are some bug reports with "known issues" for etch, like e.g. > kernel >= 2.6.17 uses TCP window scaling. I think that warrants a new > part in the release notes like "Known issues", "Troubleshooting" (or a > better title - in this case, tha

Re: D-I RC1 - release planning - update - freeze over, restrained updates

2006-11-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There have been some (expected) delays in getting all needed udebs into > testing, but they are finally there. No reports of blocking issues, so > I've just uploaded the build of debian-installer that should become RC1. Will that include m68k? I looked fo

Re: Bug#396346: severity of 396346 is wishlist

2006-11-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The situation right now is different: there is a very large user base > for Christian's packages, and I feel debian should offer'em an upgrade > path, because that would just be fair. And many of them would be surprised or even angry if the 'castrat

Re: D-I RC1 related hint reqest

2006-11-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 12:26:10AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> The FTBFS is that it fails to build in etch (patches generated files >> and they differ there). > > No, the sid version *also* patches generated files,

Re: D-I RC1 related hint reqest

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please add the following hint: > > # Important fix for inputbox breakage under non-ASCII locales > unblock newt/0.52.2-8 > > Please also force hint cryptsetup. It seems to be blocked by an FTBFS, but > I don't think that should block migration. The FTBFS i

Re: Bug#379090: Still no news on 64bit i386 kernels

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061031 15:01]: >> Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I asked this before and haven't yet recieved an answere: >> >> What does w-b do when the amd64 b

Re: Bug#379090: Still no news on 64bit i386 kernels

2006-10-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 01:30:59AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Can someone from the kernel team comment on whether there are problems with >> this particular patch that have not yet been noted in the bug report? If >> there aren't any

Bug#396126: FTBFS: Incompatible with etch versions

2006-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: cryptsetup Version: 1.0.4~rc2-1 Severity: serious Justification: no longer builds from source Hi, cryptsetup contains a patch for po/Makefile, which is generated from Makefile.in during build. The problem now is that the resulting Makefile differs between a build on etch and a build on s

Re: [D-I] RC1 - final push of udebs

2006-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 09:11:58PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: >> Hi Jeroen, >> >> Here's the list of udeb-only packages to be synced to testing: >> >> [...] > > all done, except: > >> debian-installer-utils > > Out of date on arm, > > di-utils

Re: pnet and gettext

2006-10-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello. > > While trying to package the just released gettext 0.16, I discovered > that neither gettext in testing or the current version in unstable > build from source anymore, as pnet does not exist in testing, and it > depends (indirectly) on libgnutl

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > Okay, so the idea is: > > (a) move m68k from etch to testing-m68k > > (b) automatically promote m68k packages from unstable to testing-m68k > when the same version gets promoted into etch. Which, since no special britney run is done, makes it absolutely and exac

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> Um, I think I've missed something. What'd be the functional difference >> between the two? > > testing-m68k == having something that updates from unstable at its own > pace for m68k only. That might mean

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:47:19PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > Personally, I think m68k would be better served by having a testing-m68k >> > and taking occassional snapshots which serve as the supported stable-m68k >> > rele

Re: m68k release future

2006-10-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 06:58:21AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> So, from the other thread, seems like the idea for m68k is: >> >>(a) keep building unstable as per usual A per architecture tracking of arch:all package would be ni

Re: m68k not a release arch for etch; status in testing, future plans?

2006-10-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:11:38PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> > Assumed m68k would be able to kill (most of) the backlog in time, what >> > would >> > prevent m68k from becoming releasable?

Still no news on 64bit i386 kernels

2006-10-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, just a small reminder that etch still has no 64bit kernels for i386. This is a regression from sarge which has them. The bug (#379090) has a simple patch to reintroduce those kernel images (+5/-1 lines code change and the rest is config) for nearly 100 days without a comment so far. Would it

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:29:37AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 02:50:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >&g

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 02:50:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> But running Debian binaries on other distributions remains a >> problem. For example static binaries that use libnss* plugins will >> fail to

Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dear release team and DDs, I submitted a trivial patch for glibc in bug#387446 to increase the compatibility between debian amd64 and other distributions. The maintainer has reassign this to 'general' saying: Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually there is nothing wrong with the gl

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-09-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060906 13:52]: >> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Andreas Barth wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I try to summarize t

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-09-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Barth wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I try to summarize the results of the discussion from start of August, >> in hope that we can finish this off, and test-run this first for the >> next stable point release. From the security team, some input on their >

Re: [Secure-testing-team] Re: Removing insecure packages from etch

2006-08-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 05:07:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Probably best to just ask the release team (cc'd) for their preferred >> > approach. >> >> Could we quantify that

Re: Removing insecure packages from etch

2006-08-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
dann frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:58:04PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> I'm trying to follow debian-devel and giving advice where possible. >> Unfortunately most people just don't care; e.g. I strongly recommended >> to dump mantis completely. Still someon

Re: udeb support for britney

2006-08-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > An important question for the design of a solution is how acceptable it > would be to have source and udebs out of sync in testing between d-i > releases. Of course, for a stable release everything must be in sync, but > IMO we can easily manage that. I

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, now that we agreed that those modules need to go into non-free, but that > provided their licence is clear enough, like in the tg3 case, they are indeed > distriutable in non-free, let's go back to the initial point. > > This is upstream work, and work

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Compare it to including a hexdump of an image or sound in a header >> file and including that in the binary. And compare it with having that >> same imag

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:52:01 +0200 > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> They have always been a problem and have always violated the license >> of the rest of the kernel. It is just that nobody notic

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > No, because those are not linked together with the GPLed code, but are a >> > mere >> > aggregation of works inside the same media, i.e. the bi

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:14:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Where people buy their hardware or how free their hardware is has >> >> little to do wi

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:32:52PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I am not familiar enough with how library are run, but there is some very >> > differ

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 02:48:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And even for an aggregation of works the DFSG holds and you are still >> in trouble. > > Sure, the

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:21:32PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: >> >> > On Aug 04, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >&g

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In linux.debian.kernel Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The real issue here is one of freedom and DFSG and not one of legality anyway. >>Those firmware are not DFSG-free and have nothing to do in main, and this is >>the real problem. > They were n

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Aug 04, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >>think not? Prove it by proposing a GR. More importantly, the release team >> > I had such a plan, but no time to implement it currently. >

Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In linux.debian.kernel Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What can be done about this? >>>Accept that most people do not consider this a problem? >>First of all, this is false. Most Debian developers agree with me. You > This is unproven.

Re: Summary: Secure APT Key Management

2006-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > Joey: Thanks for the Bcc. > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 12:56:26PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: >> 5. http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2006/07/msg00202.html >> Rapha?l Hertzog suggested[2] to use two signatures, one from a yearly >> key and one from a stable release k

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-07-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Martin Schulze: >> >> > I'd really love to see this feature properly implemented. >> >> The only approach which is known to work is static keys for stable >> releases and stable security updates. The k

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-07-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> From a release engineering view, the last possible date at which APT >> key material can be included in d-i would be interesting, I guess. > > Last chance for that is the final build of d-i initrds. > > -- > see shy jo And the plan

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-07-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.26.1601 +0100]: >> If you can get ftp-master to put the key in that place then I'm >> willing to patch apt to use it for key updates with enough checking

Re: Secure APT Key Management

2006-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > According to the last release update the key management issue for > Secure APT is not yet resolved. > > Are there chances to get key management settled down before the > release? It would really be a shame if we couldn't get this done and > provide the

Re: sparc32 and sparc64-only packages

2006-07-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> How about creating a sparc64 package (probably part of dpkg's internal >> type-handling support) and depending on that? >> >> That would at least make the

Re: sparc32 and sparc64-only packages

2006-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Recently I've been investigating the xine-lib build failure on > sparc. It turned out that failure occured due to libavcodec, shipped > as a part of xine-lib, using the sparc64-specific assembler > instructions in some routines (without providing

Re: ia32-libs update for sarge

2006-06-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I just wanted the release team now about the plans to update ia32-libs to know > in sarge. The updates will just bring the ia64/amd64 packages back in > sync with the actual i386 sarge

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