Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:54:30AM +0200, Christian Meder wrote: > > Please include this patch from David Miller. Alan Cox already received > it (according to davem) and it will be in 2.2.15final. Without the > patch our two Ultra I sparc boxes didn't even survive a one minute > crashme run ;-) >

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Christian Meder
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > I think we need to get a kernel-source-2.2.15 package in right now, even > if it means that it is actually a 2.2.15-pre19 (the latest pre). This way > we can start building images, and have boot-floppies using it. I'm very > sure it wil

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:18:31AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > I think we need to get a kernel-source-2.2.15 package in right now, even > > > if it means that it is actually a 2.2.

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > > ATTN ftpmasters: > > > > To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be > > released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > > > Acco

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 06:28:11PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > Uggh, can you make it kernel-foo-2.2.15_2.2.15-pre19-1? This way in the > boot-floppies we can actually change the version of the kernel it looks > for to 2.2.15, which is important to get in now, so we don't have to make > the chang

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:18:31AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > > > I think we need to get a kernel-source-2.2.15 package in right now, even > > if it means that it is actually a 2.2.15-pre19 (the latest pre). This way > > we can start

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I think we need to get a kernel-source-2.2.15 package in right now, even > if it means that it is actually a 2.2.15-pre19 (the latest pre). This way > we can start building images, and have boot-floppies using it. I'm very > sure it

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Could you release that list so the packages can be fixed? I don't want > > potato to be the worst Debian release ever. > > http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/unmet.html Some of the

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Could you release that list so the packages can be fixed? I don't want > potato to be the worst Debian release ever. http://master.debian.org/~wakkerma/unmet.html If you think that's enough to make potato the worst Debian release

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > For some values of "relatively". The i386 tree, counting only main, > currently has 6 unsatisfied Depends relationships that I know of. > I can probably eliminate all but two of them before the release. > (The exeptions are libglide2-v3 depending on device3dfx-module, > w

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 09:26:33AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > With a big enough hammer, you can force anything. > > Yes, you can force the creation of CD's, but then you get > a CD that has software that is NOT installable, in this case > w3-el. It would seem that the "correct" thing to do woul

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. > > Presumably using a smarter tool than debian-cd, then.

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:39:03PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. > > Presumably u

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > But in fact most of them ARE ironed out - potato CDs have been made by > someone or other almost daily for weeks now without major incident. Presumably using a smarter tool than debian-cd, then. potato has a number of open depen

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 06:12:08PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation o

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Collins wrote: > Herbert, is this possible for you? If we do this I have this little patch that must be put in as well. I'll mail it to Herbert. Wichert. -- _ / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your c

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 08:13:08AM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > > Date:Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:54:52 +0200 > > To: Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-release@lists.debian.org > > From:Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subje

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Westveer
On 20-Apr-2000 Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: >> I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree >> without documenting the changes, but the current errors >> in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this >> d

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this > > dependancy pr

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:34:11AM -0700, Jim Westveer wrote: > I understand that one does not want to update the stable tree > without documenting the changes, but the current errors > in 2.1r5 are procluding the creation of .iso's because of this > dependancy problem. What I don't understand

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Lynch
> > Date:Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:54:52 +0200 > To: Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-release@lists.debian.org > From:Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Preparing for first test cycle > > Previously Richard Braakman

kernel we release with (was Re: Preparing for first test cycle)

2000-04-20 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm certainly very much against releasing with known security holes. > At this moment we already have to do 2.2.15+1patch :( What does this mean? We'll be using 2.2.15 for potato? Or sticking with a patched 2.2.14? I relealize different arches are

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Westveer
On 20-Apr-2000 Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: >> ATTN ftpmasters: >> >> To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be >> released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > And have slink cha

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Brandon Mitchell wrote: > I believe the intention is to continue testing with a minor security hole. However we know there is a major security hole in 2.2.14 for example.. and I won't be surprised if more will be discovered during the testing cycle. I think we need to have some short-cu

RE: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I believe the intention is to continue testing with a minor security hole. Then, fix all the problems uncovered while testing and start a new cycle. However a major problem would make all further testing pointless making it worth it to stop the cycle, fix the problem, and start over. This means we

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Richard Braakman wrote: > No. Any such change means aborting the test cycle. This may be reasonable > if a security problem is big enough, but I'm not going to decide that in > advance. I'm certainly very much against releasing with known security holes. At this moment we already have

Re: Please release 2.1r6

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 12:33:33AM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > ATTN ftpmasters: > > To be perfectly clear: contrary to the Subject: line, 2.1r6 should _not_ be > released right after the included "wishlist" has been processed. > > According to release procedures we're currently trying out, the "

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 05:15:28PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Richard Braakman wrote: > > Will it be possible to stage the first Test Cycle on or near May 2nd? > > That's two weeks from now. > > > > It means that May 2nd is the last day I make any change to potato, except > > for changes nee

Re: Fwd/Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please Cc: things like this to -boot and -cd. (I've done this one for you) That's not necessary since the whole point of debian-release is for release coordination. Cross-posting is redundant. -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onShore.com/>

Re: Preparing for first test cycle

2000-04-20 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Will it be possible to stage the first Test Cycle on or near May 2nd? > That's two weeks from now. Speaking on behalf of the boot-floppies team, I believe this date is doable. boot-floppies 2.2.11 has a *lot* of changes in it (103 line changelog).