Hiya Dale!
Great post!!
Julian
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On 00-12-04 Dale Scheetz wrote:
> OK, I've read all the postings on this thread, and I must first correct
[...]
> secondary. Don't stop just because someone else is doing it different.
I have to admit that you wrote a great email, which describes very good
my concerns and expose possible and good
OK, I've read all the postings on this thread, and I must first correct
some incorrect information presented there.
1. The DAM (currently James) IS the final authority on acceptance of new
maintainers. It is the DAM that must be satisfied with the qualifications
of the applicant.
In past discussi
> > I'm also the only AM who does a google.com search on the applicant to
> > get a broader picture of his activities.
>
> And which can often fail. Either you get to much info, because the name
> is to common or you get absolutely no info, because there no website
> with information about him. I
On Sunday 03 December 2000 22:48, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I think the NM team would appreciate it if you could put together a
> team of volunteers who are willing to sponsor NMs. You could send
> e-mail to all those NMs who have not been assigned an AM yet (a
> listing is available at http://nm.
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 18:48]:
> If you want to discuss this, then go ahead, but flaming doesn't
> help.
I think the NM team would appreciate it if you could put together a
team of volunteers who are willing to sponsor NMs. You could send
e-mail to all those NMs who have n
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]:
> > debian packages and fixing other bug packages. You can't only look at
> > the bug reports of people and judge them. You also should take a look at
> > how much they contributed already to debian.
> You
On 00-12-03 Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> As a matter of fact he emphasised several times that I should take my time
> to do my job properly and was very serious about the quality of debian
> packages. He proved to be competent in all the aspects of packaging and
> 'debianness' we encountered so far. H
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]:
> > Well, I think that there are enough people to sponsor NMs. I currently
> > fail to see that we are missing enough sponsors.
> If there are so many sponsors, why haven't you done the most obvious
> thin
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]:
> debian packages and fixing other bug packages. You can't only look at
> the bug reports of people and judge them. You also should take a look at
> how much they contributed already to debian.
You won't believe it, but I do that with my appli
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]:
> Well, I think that there are enough people to sponsor NMs. I currently
> fail to see that we are missing enough sponsors.
If there are so many sponsors, why haven't you done the most obvious
thing in the world: the list of NMs is available o
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 14:24]:
> > > The Build-Depends: I didn't count but I guess about 80 - 90% get
> >
> > Also I wonder how you can guess that the number is so high? I think
> > it would be only about 10-20& judging from looking at
On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:01:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote:
> Hmm. You misunderstanding me a littlebit.
On 00-12-04 Anand Kumria wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:24:29PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > documented well at all). And I have them fix it. There are packages
> >
> > And that should be the part that the sponsor should do. We have the
> > concept of sponsorship for new maintainers,
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 03:18:23AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote:
> Yes we need new maintainers and this thread is about making it
> more cumbersome and difficult to become one.
I can't understand why not make it harder. I agree with
nm.debian.org's TODO List[1] ('More checks before AM approves'). De
This mail is intended to create some sort of opposing viewpoint and I would like
to lay out my personal experiense concerning Marin as a AM.
I got appointed Martin as a AM, and he always was friendly and helpfull.
As a matter of fact he emphasised several times that I should take my time
to do m
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:24:29PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > documented well at all). And I have them fix it. There are packages
>
> And that should be the part that the sponsor should do. We have the
> concept of sponsorship for new maintainers, so that they have a debian
No, we do not.
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 14:24]:
> > The Build-Depends: I didn't count but I guess about 80 - 90% get
>
> Also I wonder how you can guess that the number is so high? I think
> it would be only about 10-20& judging from looking at the bug
> reports.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. 80
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:01:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote:
Hmm. You misunderstanding me a littlebit. I want the same thing like
you, I just d
I would suggest setting up some standards that apply to all developers and
appoint someone to see that those standards are applied.
If you have a developer who does no signifigant work during a half year or 3
month basis, put him on probation. If the work isn't being done, put the
developer on pro
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 00:01]:
> > When I see that a package with missing build dependencies (except
> > debhelper) that has in debian/copyright a "Copyright: not yet known"
> > and 2 other bugs is enough to become a Debian maintainer
> > (
Hi to all the readers of this mail,
On 00-12-03 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote:
> >...
> > > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they
> > > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or
> > > when I do suggest
On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote:
> > Well, I can tell you, that if I see some really lazy Developers in the
> > future, I will complaining about them, even on -devel if it's needed. As
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]:
> > Martin is only "an AM", but...
> I forgot to mention one thing: I think I'm the AM who asks the _most_
> questions about Philosophy & Procedures. I think this area is in
> particular important because th
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]:
> Martin is only "an AM", but...
I forgot to mention one thing: I think I'm the AM who asks the _most_
questions about Philosophy & Procedures. I think this area is in
particular important because then I see if the applicant fits into
Debian. I
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 00:01]:
> After the discussion where James and Martin totally disagreed with
> me
I do NOT totally disagree with you. (I made that clear when you
approached me.)
> When I see that a package with missing build dependencies (except
> debhelper) that has
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]:
> Martin is only "an AM", but he has already processed 42 applicants
> (more than 25% of all processed applicants) and if he continues with
> his speed
I have processed 33 since 9 'on hold' people are part of this figure.
But anyway, risko has 3
[ Please CC to me, or to debian-newmaint-admin ]
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote:
> Well, I can tell you, that if I see some really lazy Developers in the
> future, I will complaining about them, even on -devel if it's ne
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote:
> Hi,
Hi Christian, hi Dale,
>...
> > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they
> > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or
> > when I do suggest that they should become members of Debian bef
Hi,
sorry to intercept here. I'm not subscribed to debian-newmaint-admin but
to debian-qa, so please send a copy of your answer to this mailing-list.
Thanks.
On 00-12-03 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> [Cc to debian-qa because this mail explains why I'll quit Debian QA]
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko
[Cc to debian-qa because this mail explains why I'll quit Debian QA]
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote:
>...
> > We are talking about prospective maintainers, right?
> >
> > These are people who care enough about Debian to actually bother to
> > apply to be a maintainer so they can help ma
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