On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: > Hi,
Hi Christian, hi Dale, >... > > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they > > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or > > when I do suggest that they should become members of Debian before I do > > really think they are ready. When I see that a package with missing build > > dependencies (except debhelper) that has in debian/copyright a "Copyright: > > not yet known" and 2 other bugs is enough to become a Debian maintainer > > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint-discuss-0011/msg00103.html) I > > can't see any quality standards that are needed. > > Have you ever mailed about this to the AMs and the NM-Frontdesk > (especially Dale) and told them your concerns to discuss this out and > find a better solution? If not, I definitely recommend doing so, before > blaiming here the whole NM-process. (And yes, I know what I say, because > I already had some things to discuss about the NM-process with Dale and > so I know that you can discuss with him things). If yes, then this > behaviour of some AMs should be publically discussed even if it's needed > on debian-project. But just moaning here on to list where not many > people see it, won't help improve the situation. > > > After the discussion where James and Martin totally disagreed with me I > > decided I'll stop being an AM after I'll have processed my two applicants. > > Just because the person creating accounts and and AM have a different > view, you just quit without talking with the head of the NM process? > Sorry to say, but this is idiotic. James has not more influence on the > NM process then you. So if you want to see some changes, then you are > free to contact Dale and convince him. you are right, I didn't contact Dale after the discussion with James and Martin. I was under the impression that if the DAM says that it he don't understand me his opinion is some kind of a final judgement. I did only send my general concerns about the speed some AMs process the applicants in http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint-discuss-0011/msg00050.html some time ago. Martin is only "an AM", but he has already processed 42 applicants (more than 25% of all processed applicants) and if he continues with his speed he will process half of all applicants. Dale: It was my fault not trying to contact you. I haven't seen your opinion in this discussion. Could you tell what you think about it or if you want you can discuss my views with me privately. Sorry that I didn't try to contact all people I should have contacted. I was a bit frustrated after the discussion and did only think of it again after I saw earlier in this thread that other AMs have the same problems/concerns I have. It might be I did some mistakes. One important thing: Don't let us forget our main goal: Debian. I have perhaps more a QA view when I think of such things than other people. It isn't important who of us is right or wrong. Let's discuss together what's best for Debian as a whole. >... > Ciao > Christian cu, Adrian -- A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi
