Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-12-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-11-27 13:02:18, schrieb Michael Stone: > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:33:25PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > >And HOW can I get UID's >=65536 to work? > > > > > >I have already tried it in my /etc/passwd and > > >/etc/group but it gives to

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-12-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-27 13:02:18, schrieb Michael Stone: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:33:25PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >And HOW can I get UID's >=65536 to work? > > > >I have already tried it in my /etc/passwd and > >/etc/group but it gives tonns of errors. > > > >Any hints? > > Hint: you need to b

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:33:25PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: And HOW can I get UID's >=65536 to work? I have already tried it in my /etc/passwd and /etc/group but it gives tonns of errors. Any hints? Hint: you need to be more specific about the problems you're having. Mike Stone -- T

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Steve, Am 2006-11-24 19:15:41, schrieb Steve Langasek: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 06:16:28PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > > Every time the discussion has come up so far, there's been an absence of > > > consensus about whether it was correct to attempt to reclaim user ids on > > > pu

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 06:16:28PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Every time the discussion has come up so far, there's been an absence of > > consensus about whether it was correct to attempt to reclaim user ids on > > purge. > When does GNU/Linux distributions support 32 Bit UID/GID's? Deb

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Sorry for the late answer but I have found this message in the SPAM folder Am 2006-11-14 19:57:52, schrieb Steve Langasek: > Every time the discussion has come up so far, there's been an absence of > consensus about whether it was correct to attempt to reclaim user ids on > purge. When does GNU/

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hello Lucas, Thank you for your work. On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 18:44 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Here is a list of packages that fail when all packages except essential > ones, apt and debfoster were removed, but didn't fail when debconf and > ucf were kept. This indicates a missing dependency on

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061115 03:12]: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:35:12PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > >> Hmm, I would read policy in a way that since a package can not rely on > >> its dependencies being present during purge, the

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > > This is something that I'd really like to see us sort out in policy, since > > I think we should be able to describe consistent behavior with regard to > > system users and package purging to our users. Right now, every > > maintainer is making their

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:01:16PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Russ Allbery wrote: > > This is something that I'd really like to see us sort out in policy, > > since I think we should be able to describe consistent behavior with > > regard to system users and package purging

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:12:24PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In the case of adduser, there is a strong case for not doing deluser at > > *all* on purge, because it's impossible to ensure that there are no > > off-line or remote resources referencing

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I ran some piuparts tests over etch on i386. I filed quite a lot of > bugs, but there are some logs that still need reviewing. I WON'T REVIEW > THEM MYSELF. > Here is a list of packages that fail when all packages except essential

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is something that I'd really like to see us sort out in policy, > since I think we should be able to describe consistent behavior with > regard to system users and package purging to our users. What makes the most sense to me is to not delete the use

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:12:24PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Hmm, I would read policy in a way that since a package can not rely on > >> its dependencies being present during purge, their pure absence alone > >> should not be a valid reason to fail. If this on the other hand is a > >> valid e

deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:35:12PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: >> Hmm, I would read policy in a way that since a package can not rely on >> its dependencies being present during purge, their pure absence alone >> should not be a valid reason to fail

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is at least true for the "debconf" errors; since "debconf is a > cache", it isn't useful to fail when the cache has already been removed. > I guess this is why some packages use: >. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule || true > They should really us

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:35:12PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 03:13:42PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > For the "adduser" errors, it might be reasonable to intentionally fail, as a > > mechanism to alert the admin that "the user hasn't and can't be removed". > > Sa

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 03:13:42PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > For the "adduser" errors, it might be reasonable to intentionally fail, as a > mechanism to alert the admin that "the user hasn't and can't be removed". > Same > for update-inetd. Is that the intent? Hmm, I would read policy in a

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 08:07:27PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Here is a list of packages that fail when all packages except essential > > ones, apt and debfoster wxhere removed, but didn't fail when all > > important&require

Re: Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Here is a list of packages that fail when all packages except essential > ones, apt and debfoster wxhere removed, but didn't fail when all > important&required packages were kept. This indicates a missing > dependency on an important

Piuparts testing status update

2006-11-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I ran some piuparts tests over etch on i386. I filed quite a lot of bugs, but there are some logs that still need reviewing. I WON'T REVIEW THEM MYSELF. Here is a list of packages that fail when all packages except essential ones, apt and debfoster were removed, but didn't fail when debconf a