Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Sunday 03 December 2000 22:48, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I think the NM team would appreciate it if you could put together a > team of volunteers who are willing to sponsor NMs. You could send > e-mail to all those NMs who have not been assigned an AM yet (a > listing is available at http://nm.

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 18:48]: > If you want to discuss this, then go ahead, but flaming doesn't > help. I think the NM team would appreciate it if you could put together a team of volunteers who are willing to sponsor NMs. You could send e-mail to all t

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]: > > debian packages and fixing other bug packages. You can't only look at > > the bug reports of people and judge them. You also should take a look at > > how much th

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Andreas Schuldei wrote: > As a matter of fact he emphasised several times that I should take my time > to do my job properly and was very serious about the quality of debian > packages. He proved to be competent in all the aspects of packaging and > 'debianness' we encountered so far. H

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]: > > Well, I think that there are enough people to sponsor NMs. I currently > > fail to see that we are missing enough sponsors. > If there are so many sponsors, why haven

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]: > debian packages and fixing other bug packages. You can't only look at > the bug reports of people and judge them. You also should take a look at > how much they contributed already to debian. You won't believe

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 17:39]: > Well, I think that there are enough people to sponsor NMs. I currently > fail to see that we are missing enough sponsors. If there are so many sponsors, why haven't you done the most obvious thing in the world: the list of

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 14:24]: > > > The Build-Depends: I didn't count but I guess about 80 - 90% get > > > > Also I wonder how you can guess that the number is so high? I think > > it would be

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote: > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:01:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote: > Hmm. You misunderstanding me a littlebit.

Re: sponsorship was: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-04 Anand Kumria wrote: > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:24:29PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > documented well at all). And I have them fix it. There are packages > > > > And that should be the part that the sponsor should do. We have the > > concept of sponsorship for new maintainers,

Re: sponsorship was: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Lenart Janos
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 03:18:23AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: > Yes we need new maintainers and this thread is about making it > more cumbersome and difficult to become one. I can't understand why not make it harder. I agree with nm.debian.org's TODO List[1] ('More checks before AM approves'). De

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Andreas Schuldei
This mail is intended to create some sort of opposing viewpoint and I would like to lay out my personal experiense concerning Marin as a AM. I got appointed Martin as a AM, and he always was friendly and helpfull. As a matter of fact he emphasised several times that I should take my time to do m

sponsorship was: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Anand Kumria
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:24:29PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > documented well at all). And I have them fix it. There are packages > > And that should be the part that the sponsor should do. We have the > concept of sponsorship for new maintainers, so that they have a debian No, we do not.

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 14:24]: > > The Build-Depends: I didn't count but I guess about 80 - 90% get > > Also I wonder how you can guess that the number is so high? I think > it would be only about 10-20& judging from looking at the bug >

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Lenart Janos
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:01:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote: Hmm. You misunderstanding me a littlebit. I want the same thing like you, I just d

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Henry Garcia
I would suggest setting up some standards that apply to all developers and appoint someone to see that those standards are applied. If you have a developer who does no signifigant work during a half year or 3 month basis, put him on probation. If the work isn't being done, put the developer on pro

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 00:01]: > > When I see that a package with missing build dependencies (except > > debhelper) that has in debian/copyright a "Copyright: not yet known" > > and 2 other bugs is

Bug#78674: outdated config.sub breaks arm compilation

2000-12-03 Thread Philip Blundell
Package: stringlist Version: 0.3-3 The config.sub script is out of date, making ARM builds impossible. Please update it to the latest version from subversions.gnu.org. --- Configuring ./configure --prefix=/usr creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/insta

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi to all the readers of this mail, On 00-12-03 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: > >... > > > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they > > > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or > > > when I do suggest

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Lenart Janos wrote: > On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote: > > Well, I can tell you, that if I see some really lazy Developers in the > > future, I will complaining about them, even on -devel if it's needed. As

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-03 Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]: > > Martin is only "an AM", but... > I forgot to mention one thing: I think I'm the AM who asks the _most_ > questions about Philosophy & Procedures. I think this a

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]: > Martin is only "an AM", but... I forgot to mention one thing: I think I'm the AM who asks the _most_ questions about Philosophy & Procedures. I think this area is in particular important because then I see if th

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 00:01]: > After the discussion where James and Martin totally disagreed with > me I do NOT totally disagree with you. (I made that clear when you approached me.) > When I see that a package with missing build dependencies (except > d

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001203 13:11]: > Martin is only "an AM", but he has already processed 42 applicants > (more than 25% of all processed applicants) and if he continues with > his speed I have processed 33 since 9 'on hold' people are part of

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Lenart Janos
[ Please CC to me, or to debian-newmaint-admin ] On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:17:37AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko wrote: > Well, I can tell you, that if I see some really lazy Developers in the > future, I will complaining about them, even on -devel if it's ne

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: > Hi, Hi Christian, hi Dale, >... > > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they > > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or > > when I do suggest that they should become members of Debian bef

Re: task & skills

2000-12-03 Thread Christian Kurz
Hi, sorry to intercept here. I'm not subscribed to debian-newmaint-admin but to debian-qa, so please send a copy of your answer to this mailing-list. Thanks. On 00-12-03 Adrian Bunk wrote: > [Cc to debian-qa because this mail explains why I'll quit Debian QA] > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Gergely Risko

Bug#78660: free version available

2000-12-03 Thread Joey Hess
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