Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 14:33:00 -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:24:13PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > Following the “if it didn't happen on a mailing list, it didn't > > happen”, I repeat here what I said on IRC: > > > 12:26 < kwilk> So I rebuilt src:python-aalib, and I

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Stuart Prescott, 2013-09-19] > > I don't understand the pip hate. Why don't you guys try and, you know, > > figure out *why* these tools were invented. It (for sure) is overly > > simplistic, but it's there for a reason. > > It's pretty obvious why these tools were invented -- I think everyone >

Disabling pip for root? (was: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages)

2013-09-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2013-09-18 09:36, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > 1) pip isn't for global package management, for this is stupid. If we > disabled root use of pip, I think we'd all be a bit happier. Very quick and very dirty patch attached. > 4) Python modules from dpkg are borderline useless for developer

Bug#723736: RFA: lintian4python -- Debian package checker (for Python packages)

2013-09-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp I want someone to take over development of lintian4python, as I no longer use this package. Description === Lintian dissects Debian packages and reports bugs and policy violations. It contains automated checks for many aspects of Debian policy as well as some checks fo

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > libaa1 and python3 packages to be of the same architecture. AIUI > "Depends: python3:any, libaa1" doesn't express that? as

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 14:55:17 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > > libaa1 and python3 packages to be of the same archit

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 14:55:17 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > > [Julien Cristau, 2013-09-19] > > > Well, in Jakub's case the module does dlopen("libaa.so.1"), so while it > > > doesn't care about the interpreter's architecture, it does need the > > > libaa1 and

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:16:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >> Howdy all, >> >> Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This >affects >> Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. >> >> See the discussion thread and take the opport

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:16:22PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, > > Over at the ‘python-dev’ forum, PEP 453 is being discussed. This affects > Debian packaging of Python, and packages written for Python. > > See the discussion thread and take the opportunity to represent Debian > https:/

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Nicolas Chauvat
Hi, On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It shows my background, but when I need older versions of things I > fire up a chroot and work in that. I often do that even for the > same distro release I'm running to keep things separated. It's quite > possible to deal wi

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Piotr Ożarowski , 2013-09-19, 15:33: any proposals on how to detect packages that import ctypes It's not necessarily only ctypes. (other than parsing sources, please ;) Don't detect anything. Add an option (say, --multiarch-me-harder), so that maintainers can opt-in for :any dependencies

Re: [PATCH] Support :any architecture qualifiers for multiarch

2013-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:05:39PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Piotr Ożarowski , 2013-09-19, 15:33: > >any proposals on how to detect packages that import ctypes > It's not necessarily only ctypes. What are the other cases? > >(other than parsing sources, please ;) > Don't detect anything. Add

Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages

2013-09-19 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > Donald pung me after, and he's open to working with us. Thank you! It's important to have calm discussion with upstream, when we can make a positive difference to this specification. -- \ “Teach a man to make fire, and he will be warm for a day. Set a | `\