Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-28 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-28] > On May 23, 2010, at 03:58 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > >[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-22] > >[¹] f.e. changes in API, absolute imports in 2.7 would be one of those, > >right now I don't see such changes in 2.7, but I didn't play much > >with it yet > > Contrary to wha

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 23, 2010, at 03:58 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-22] >> So, how can we make sure that doesn't happen? IOW, how can I begin to >> experiment with a Python 2.7 transition in a way that will benefit Debian as >> well?' > >Simply avoid doing transitions with significant ch

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-23 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-22] > On May 19, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > >[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-18] > >> We can also recognize that Ubuntu and Debian may ultimately > >> make different decisions, but they should be one of timing rather than > >> substance. What I mean by that is tha

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2010, at 01:05 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-05-19] >> we have experimental for aggressive changes... > >unless you wanted to use Debian experimental, debian-python mailing list >and our help since the beginning and later sync it in Ubuntu (if you >decide it's ready

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-18] >> We can also recognize that Ubuntu and Debian may ultimately >> make different decisions, but they should be one of timing rather than >> substance. What I mean by that is that we can use the basic fact of our >> d

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 19, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >Hi Barry, >thanks for your interest for Debian too :) Sure thing! While I don't regularly run Debian I do have the ability to run quite a few VMs on my main development boxes, so it should be pretty easy for me to test things. I just hope you'll

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
> [Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-05-19] >> we have experimental for aggressive changes... > > unless you wanted to use Debian experimental, debian-python mailing list > and our help since the beginning and later sync it in Ubuntu (if you > decide it's ready and we will not want to make further changes). >

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-05-19] > we have experimental for aggressive changes... unless you wanted to use Debian experimental, debian-python mailing list and our help since the beginning and later sync it in Ubuntu (if you decide it's ready and we will not want to make further changes). If yes, then

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-19 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2010-05-18] > My own personal principle for decisions regarding Python on Ubuntu are that we > (Debian and Ubuntu) should always work together and try to reach consensus > where possible. great! > We can also recognize that Ubuntu and Debian may ultimately > make different decision

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Barry, thanks for your interest for Debian too :) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 23:50, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 18, 2010, at 02:30 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>We did make the assumption that by the time 2.7 is released Debian will be in >>freeze. Even if it won't be in freeze yet, it will soon

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 18, 2010, at 02:30 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >As is usual for discussions involving more than one person, we didn't all >leave the room with quite the same understanding. I think 2.7 as default is a >stretch goal at most. We want 2.7 as a supported version, but I didn't sense >a lot of app

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Barry Warsaw" wrote: >So, on to Python... > >I've started a wiki page which I'll use to collate all the work on Python >versions for Ubuntu 10.10: > >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview/Python > >In summary, we would really like Maverick to ship Python 2.6, 2.7, and 3.2 >

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:38:23AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and >> representing the Debian community. It was really great meeting and having a >> chance to talk with him. H

Re: Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:38:23AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and > representing the Debian community. It was really great meeting and having a > chance to talk with him. He's encouraged me to apply for DD status and I > think I

Python versions for Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

2010-05-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
Now that the Ubuntu Developer Summit is over, I'll be able to catch up on this mailing list. However I wanted to take a moment to summarize the session we had on Python versions for Maverick Meerkat (Ubuntu 10.10). First, let me thank the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli for coming to UDS-M and representin