Re: No minutes from Debconf Python BoF?

2010-08-14 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-14-08 at 15:14 +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > The minutes are currently polished by the participants of the BoF and > will be published afterwards. Why do minutes need to be "polished" ... ? -- --gh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 21:03 +0530, Umang wrote: > However, my > foolib will have 99.9% of my code. foolib _is_ my program, it's not a Why not just have foo.py then ? There *are* python programs written this way. I think you can still use them as libraries if you use the __main__ convention at

Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 15:32 +0100, Pietro Battiston wrote: > ./appname > ./appnamelib/__init__.py appending lib to everything is really ugly* ... is it because ./appname.py ./appname/__init__.py fails to work ? [*] And the debian perl group pre-pend 'lib' to all the packaged perl modules so yo

Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 23:12 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > It is useful to be able to run a package without installing it for > > development and testing. > > Right. AFAIK there's no way to do that with Distutils (yet). I'm currently working on a perl application and the same is true for Module::Bu

Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 15:42 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > If the package is designed to be installed by distutils, it seems obtuse > to expect it to work without using distutils. The point of distutils is It is useful to be able to run a package without installing it for development and testing. > t

Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-29 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 08:14 +0530, Umang wrote: > What is the best directory structure for a python application? > > If I have a package called foo that installs a script called foo and > a > package called foo, this is what I would do: > > foopython script >

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2009-27-12 at 22:13 +0200, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Is it possible to create symlink on a symlink? yes > (I am on windows right now - can't test) -- --gh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: Unit tests

2009-12-26 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2009-26-12 at 17:13 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : > > Even if most users don't need them, tests greatly increase the value > > of bugreports and doesn't bloat python packages too much. > > True. What do other people think of the issue? They should only be

Re: VCS for Python code Was: Trac team almost dead?

2009-09-01 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-01-09 at 19:10 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Dmitrijs > Ledkovs wrote: > > Recently I have discovered some very nice features of hg that make it > > attractive: > > Mercurial Queues are awesome, but there is one major drawback in > Mercurial compari

Re: Butchered python configuration ...

2009-04-29 Thread Guy Hulbert
Dear itsovermyhead I read this list and several other software development lists and "flame wars" are rather a nuisance to me. I have been using debian for about 15 years and I am very happy with it. Please let me be of assistance. On Wed, 2009-29-04 at 20:45 +1200, itsovermyhead wrote: > >> FY

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2009-02-03 at 17:37 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > As far as I know, Git doesn't have a mechanism to create full-fledged > repositories with only part of the history, referencing other remote > repositories for missing data. With my Git user hat on, this is clearly > a technically inferiorit

Re: Compiled bytecode files location

2009-02-19 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Fri, 2009-20-02 at 09:27 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > I think ‘/usr/lib/foo/’ is better than ‘/var/lib/foo/’ for program > libraries such as *.py and *.pyc, so to that extent it's a significant > improvement. Why do you not follow FHS ? /usr/lib/fooarchitecture dependent /usr

Re: Python related changes for unstable/squeeze

2009-02-17 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-17-02 at 17:09 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Joss, > > On Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > You really can’t say I’m not trying to discuss. > > I'm not sure if one cannot say this, as you "nicely" show in the following > words that you definitly totally fai

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-03 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-03-02 at 20:22 +, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > > Fortunately, I just spent 20-30 minutes going through this on > Sunday. > > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch12.en.html > > > > Scroll down to: 12.1.12 Operating system users and groups > > You can also

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-03 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-03-02 at 10:00 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > It is a PITA for development but ... > hm... sorry, but I don't see the actual point... It's actually quite easy for someone in the 'staff' group to get root privileges ... I told secur...@debian.org on Sunday exactly how and exactly

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-03 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-03-02 at 09:06 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > in Python's case, there is NO way to have it > configured in the desired way -- ie not to have /usr/local components > loaded > automagically. And that is the problem. You can do: #!python import sys and edit sys.path

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-03 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-03-02 at 09:06 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Unfortunately I can't find clear description of the 'staff' group > destiny > nowhere in Debian documentation Fortunately, I just spent 20-30 minutes going through this on Sunday. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-how

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-03 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2009-03-02 at 09:19 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Having proper configuration file under /etc sounds much more viable > and correct solution. You should do it under /usr/share/APP/ the /etc/APP/ directory is for your .ini files (see FHS). I have: /usr/share/APP/perl/

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 22:35 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > WHY Debian's installation of Python decided to diverge from a common > behavior on other distributions: Yaroslav. I think you will find the answer here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ I have a slightly different problem with perl. >

Re: Python 3.0 ?

2008-12-28 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-27-12 at 23:11 -0500, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > > What I'm really missing is at what URL I could discover the "official" > > state of things. I couldn't find anything at "python-policy" nor the > > debian wiki, though I may not have read sufficiently carefully. > > > I had heard t

Re: Python 3.0 ?

2008-12-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2008-27-12 at 13:41 -0800, andmalc wrote: > On Dec 13, 9:50 am, Guy Hulbert wrote: [snip] wow! ... ;-) > I don't think an official Debian package will be created in > experimental until 3.01 is out. What I'm really missing is at what URL I could discover the "o

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2008-23-12 at 16:17 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Everyone on the team has a workflow for SVN. Not true for the others. > We have a working system and we ought not move off of it until we have > a approach that is easily accessible and well documented. Besides. Git will talk to a svn r

Python 3.0 ?

2008-12-13 Thread Guy Hulbert
I see a query for 2.6 in the October mail archive but didn't find anything on the main Debian site about 3.0 ... as I write (but after subscribing :-), I recall that there is also a wiki to check now. Ok. Nothing on the wiki. Can't see 2.6 there either. I already glanced at the policy document.