Re: CoC / procedural abuse

2014-09-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
t too, if that's the case, but I don't know that it is). -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140918063829.GB29551@debian

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:27:58AM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > On the other hand, it defeats the principle of least surprise. > Distributing a different upstream tarball in Debian than upstream, just > because, seems plain wrong. Even the dev-ref agrees: “You *should* > upload packages with a pris

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 04:51:19PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Just for the sake of interest: Is there any reason not to use uscan? > (I hope the answer will not be "since I need to remove files from > upstream source.") This wouldn't help those not using uscan, of which I am one, but what abou

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:03:07PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > Why do you believe repacking upstream tarball should be the default > behavior (especially when, as already pointed before, “You *should* > upload packages with a pristine source tarball if possible”)? I don't suppose I'll have much s

The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
would need to be achieved via GR. Alternatively, we could document it as a "should" in policy, although there may not yet be an appropriate section to do so. Does anyone have strong feelings on this? -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.d

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 03:49:28PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 14/10/2014 11:58 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Isn't the point of posting on debian-devel-announce to increase the > > visibility and liklihood of seconds in the first place? > > Not if you want to help avoid the GR having a ch

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Dear Kurt, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:17:27AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > If on -vote the required amount of seconds have been reached, I > will announce that the GR process has been sarted on > debian-devel-announce. This is now the case for one GR and one GR amendement. There may be further ame

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ote-discuss or -vote-announce > make more sense? DDs missing a GR by not reading -vote. Since we mandate subscription to d-d-a, I felt that a "GR process has started" announcement to that list was the cleanest solution. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-pro

Re: Doubt.

2015-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hello, On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:08:04AM -0300, Daniel Lucena wrote: > I would like know if between download images of Debian 8 (after > became stable) the Mate Desktop Environment will be available or i > need install Debian NetInstall and after install Mate packages with > aptitude? This type

Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC

2017-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
anet. Such a thing could even be linked to from p.d.o or elsewhere in the Debian-web. So far nobody has opted to do so. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
duct within Debian. > > || '''User''' || '''Interest''' || '''From''' || '''Until''' || > || JonDowland || Red Hat || 2015 || - || -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:16:21AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > To that end I sat down just now to create it. Unfortunately wiki.d.o appears > to have died whilst I was doing so. Here's the wiki page : https://wiki.debian.org/RegisterOfInterests

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
off by them as complete. The former can be inferred from the wiki page history. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
h as I from declaring interest, if we so wish? -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
arters. Having said that, I appreciate the robust discussion in this thread and there's definitely more refinement to do. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
You should take your situation ot the anti harrassment team. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Planet Debian revisions

2019-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
not sure if that's overloading it a bit too much. I'm not sure that would necessarily be helpful. The URI (being externally managed) would not be guaranteed to continue to serve the same content at a later date. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Ple

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
other long-time valued Debian contributors have done that in the wake of the init system decision. And in my opinion, your more recent mailing lists contributions to Debian have not been as valuable as ones from the past: case in point, this thread. We're raking over old coals here,

Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow

2013-04-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:04:12AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I wonder if just using the same forum is a good idea, or if it would be > better to create a separate contributor-focused platform. One thing I find attractive about using the platform for both is to perhaps help encourage/promote the

Re: Revising the Code of Conduct

2013-05-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:30:08PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > The most annoying reply behaviour I see is people replying to one list > rather than the multiple lists I sent the original message to. We > should encourage use of Reply-to-all instead, as erring on the side of > inclusion is safer

Re: 2nd draft (was: Re: Revising the Code of Conduct)

2013-05-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks, Wouter. First: would it be appropriate for there to be a point about context-quoting, or inline quoting, or more precicely not either top-posting nor bottom posting with no trimming? (my phrasing is bad.) On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:52:42AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > 6. You should av

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

2013-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:21:50PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I assume Asheesh generated > the newer key to have the same ID as the older – not nice… Yes, http://www.asheesh.org/note/debian/short-key-ids-are-bad-news.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:37:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ah, I hadn't ever thought about it from that angle. Basically, the > argument is that if there's no original creative addition, it can't be a > derivative work? On first glance, 17 U.S.C. § 101 appears to support > that: Eek. What a

Re: Help bringing bugs.debian.org / debbugs back on track (Re: bits from the DPL -- September 2013)

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 09:38:31AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Please don't switch bugs.debian.org away from debbugs. I don't want to > have to leave the Debian project but some misguided folks doing that > would be one of the triggers for that. Please don't threaten/ransom your labour to push one o

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
My feeling before reading this thread was that bans should be accessible to DDs somewhere but this thread has convinced me that they should be made public. I think bans should be time-limited in almost all cases, with perma-bans being very rare indeed. I don't think that ban durations should be dis

Re: Stepping down as a Policy Editor.

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks for your hard work! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131103140708.gd9...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: Xfce by default

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:07:33PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Can we produce a minimal netinst which does just this > for a default install and adds desktop selection > for an expert install. How does the current netinst not qualify? You have to select Desktop Environment on the tasksel scr

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word "Ubuntu"

2013-11-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:56:37PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Seems as though Joey is already taking the lead on this: > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debmirror.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd972395b0201fcde4915d282982926f0d04c56;hp=7fcdf0d225c480b386c5a1f487e68dc39b57e771 Urgh,

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word "Ubuntu"

2013-11-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Joking aside, we do occasionally have high visibility, low severity bugs in this ballpark, like #666869 (which is thankfully resolved and hopefully will be backported to a stable point release) as a result of personalisation in Ubuntu leaking back downstream. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-p

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
This is a great email, Wouter. Thanks for your perseverance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1045392-ec03-41ee-b50f-f43b57282...@debian.org

Re: systemd bad press? score card?

2014-02-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 10/02/2014 17:26, Daniel Pocock wrote: > http://www.itwire.com snip > Not really objective journalism The byline alone is enough to deduce this. Let's not feed the trolls. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:28:39PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Personally I think it would bring some much needed transparency to > what is becoming one of the more essential Debian communication > channels to be on. Just like we archive mailing lists and record > DebConf talks/BoFs, we should public

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op dinsdag 25 februari 2014 19:02:49 schreef Lars Wirzenius: > > I would prefer a culture where IRC discussions are ephemeral, and any > > useful information should end up in debian/changelog, mailing lists, > > git commit messages,

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 11:07:17PM -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Consequently, any GR about init-related issues would now need to > explicity state that it upholds the CTTE's decision for the default > init system. Lacking that, passing of the GR would, as a *side-effect* > nullify the CT decision

Re: Spam fighting in -ctte mailing list....

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/03/msg00064.html Some are of no use without the context of the crap. Some are of no use anyway. Others are less clear. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a copy of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. Discuss. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 00:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Well, please enlighten me here: Without fully auditing the Javascript > code you are using to do the crypto client-side, can you *really* be > certain your private half has not travelled to Keybase? The client side crypto stuff can't be done wi

Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 01:27:44AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Nothing says a pure blend couldn't have its own public identity, and if they > were a pure blend, I would have no concern about the expenditure. But since > it's a derivative rather than a pure blend, how do we know that in /this/ >

Re: @debian.org mail adress

2014-05-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:30:49PM +0200, Kolega Wikipedia wrote: > Can I am help for translating debian software on Serbian? Check out https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp You may also find http://www.debian-srbija.iz.rs/ useful. There was a Serbian 'local team' for debconf in (at lea

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ease do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
mally delegated responsibility to do this? -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Debian is committed to making this happen. Makes sense to me. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: How do you manage debian mails on your mailbox?

2022-08-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
to figure out, one day.) -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: long-standing bugs and tar pits (was: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?)

2022-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
an, such as yourself, pop up from time to time, so we can know that you are still around. I hope life is treating you well. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: long-standing bugs and tar pits

2022-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
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Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:36:34AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Other early steps should include establishing a sub-project/group to coordinate discussion and actions around the issue. I still think this. Perhaps starting with a dedicated mailing list; debian-sustainability or debian-climate

Re: Question about contributing to debian financially.

2022-11-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
uot;maintainers team" which I take to mean any package maintainer. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

2022-11-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
rm of disciplinary process, please just go ahead and do it, don't beat about the bush. Anyone who wants to put their name to explicitly racist, sexist and pro-nazi material in Debian is free to re-upload it. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not C

Re: Do we need a conflict of interest policy?

2025-03-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I stumbled across this Debian Wiki page I'd forgotten about. We have had a voluntary Register of Interests here since 2017: https://wiki.debian.org/RegisterOfInterests -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

2025-03-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
What has changed, substantially, since we had a GR on this topic? -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: NEW review & revision process (or lack thereof) (Re: Growing new FTP-masters (Re: Bits from DPL))

2025-03-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ely for someone with privileges to send me the ftp team reject notes to get some clue as to what needs fixing. So I would definitely prefer if they were open by default. Thanks for your efforts! -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri Jul 18, 2025 at 4:49 PM BST, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Here's an MR which reverts the two commits that Mattia identified. I somehow forgot the URI: https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/merge_requests/1044 -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowl

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2025/01/msg0.html [2] https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
that this is important stuff that's worth keeping on the web pages but in a location that fits better. Thank you, Thomas. I can't see a commit at <https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commits/master>, can you point at what you've done please? Thanks, -- 👱

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ybody happy, moving the static html files to some other place and setting redirects, but that also needs time and effort and personally my focus these weeks is in other parts of the website (I'll try to rethink the /international/ folder, another monster...). I'm happy to

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
, and respectfully request they address our concerns by restoring the content in the interim. -- 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Removing old news from webpages

2025-07-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
This conversation ended up sharded across several mailing lists. I'm posting updates solely to the following bug, to try and keep things in one place: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1109609 -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎