Re: Hiding email addresses from spammers on https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php

for years in usenet now, and even posted to news.answers for a few years - nothing worse can happen to any address.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New Technical Committee Members

* Kurt Roeckx (k...@roeckx.be) [090112 18:39]: > And Steve organised the vote to add Russ (which got approved), > and propose Don to the DPL. > > Andreas said that with 3 of the 5 votes for proposing Don the vote > is over. But I think it's only 3 of 6 at that point, and the DPL > still needs to

Switching the default startup method

Hi Petter, I appreciate that you're working on improving the experience of our users during startup, e.g. by adding dependency information to the init scripts. I think that will in the long run be good for Debians users. However you recently added the dependency on insserv to sysvinit-utils. By

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090823 10:40]: > #538959 needs actually to be worked on. The current state is not how That should read: #511753 Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Raphael Geissert (geiss...@debian.org) [090824 00:34]: > Andreas Barth wrote: > > > The local admin doesn't have any > > choice. I need to admit that I disagree with this change at this > > time. > > #475478 insserv: uninstallation fails horribly if

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [090824 08:54]: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Andreas Barth wrote: > > We should definitly continue to support oldstyle booting, at least for > > the time being. > > Until what? Until we know that the new method really works 100% correct, pe

Re: OT: why is this thread not on -devel?

* Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org) [090824 14:41]: > the subject basically says it: why is this thread not on -devel? AFAICS this > is a technical discussion, while -project is for non-technical discussions? > > /me wonders if Andreas had a reason for this or if this is just what I > descri

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [090824 19:38]: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:34:56PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > It's perfectly possible to make it the default *without* making it the > > only supported option. > > I'm sure the maintainers would welcome patches to fix the bugs in questi

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [090824 20:34]: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:03:59PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [090824 19:38]: > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:34:56PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > It'

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Wouter Verhelst (wou...@debian.org) [090824 20:51]: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:34:00AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:03:59PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > The most vital bug that needs to be fixed currently is the new dependency > > &

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Tollef Fog Heen (tfh...@err.no) [090826 08:59]: > ]] Alexander Wirt > > | Luk Claes schrieb am Monday, den 24. August 2009: > | > | *snip* > | > Why would file-rc not work properly with dependency based booting? > | > | you know what file-rc is doing? You have a configfile where you list > | y

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Tollef Fog Heen (tfh...@err.no) [090826 16:12]: > ]] Andreas Barth > | Our release policy tells in > | http://release.debian.org/squeeze/rc_policy.txt (please note the > | difference between conffiles and configuration files) > > I don't see anything in section 3 that

Re: Switching the default startup method

* Tollef Fog Heen (tfh...@err.no) [090827 21:05]: > (I think I'm missing your point here, since you started quoting the RC > policy at me essentially retelling me the same thing I said in my first > message, and now you're doing it again.) Sorry. If I think you're wrong, I would have pointed it ou

Re: PTS subscription exposure

* Gerfried Fuchs (rho...@deb.at) [100302 12:09]: > Hi! > > * Mike Hommey [2010-03-02 11:47:04 CET]: > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:40:20AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > > Alright, let's also expose list subscriptions along the same reasoning. > > > Again, this is not your job to judge w

Re: PTS subscription exposure

* Faidon Liambotis (parav...@debian.org) [100303 14:24]: > Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > For the same reason I don't play into facebook's hand with handing them > > all the linking informations they would like to know (even if some > > people seem to be personally offended when not being linked). Peop

Re: I'm resigning as Release Manager

* Luk Claes (l...@debian.org) [100314 18:05]: > It's time to stop thinking I would be able to keep working as Release > Manager in this climate, I hereby resign as Release Manager. The release team is discussing how to continue (or rather: who should become release manager next). For the moment,

non-free Packages as build-dependency of contrib / non-free ones & autobuilding

Hi, currently our policy says that main packages must only (build-)depend on main packages, but contrib and non-free packages could use packages from contrib and non-free. In practice build-dependencies from non-free are not used by the buildds for two reasons: 1. (mostly historical) we need to

Re: Why isn't queue/new world-readable?

gt; I don't know why he does; but I have one more question: Wouldn't it be > possible to make the directory world-readable, but the files themselves > non-readable? It would be nice to at least see *that* ones files are > there. The directory is, also on merkel:/org/ftp.debian.or

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

, good-value, caring, or any other type of service. Agreed. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

or any other type of service. > I do see your pont. I guess it depends on whether we want to be diplomatic > or pragmatic... And which of the two should be what? I consider adding links to organisations that support debian to be both, diplomatic _and_ pragmatic. Cheers, Andi --

Re: New Front Desk members

h. English has no gender-neutral third person singular pronoun, > > "they". > they is gender-neutral? Leads to very bad-sounding, at least for my ear, > things like > > - How have they contributed to Debian already? - How has your sponsoree contributed ...? and so o

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

hey hired a cluefull DD and want to extend their services. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the DAMs

contributors. Looking at Frans, this seems to work. My experience (also as AM) is that people who join Debian with another core task than maintaining packages are usually able to maintain packages better and faster than some maintain-only people (this goes e.g. for Thiemo). Cheers, Andi -- http://home

Re: Bits from the DAMs

rules, not the exceptions (and of course, we all should try that we get more DDs in the parts of the world where we just have very few :). Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the DAMs

ut unless someone picks up the task, makes a proposal that addresses all issues, nothing will change. And, we definitly are not going to delay sarge for this, so if it doesn't happen in time, than it doesn't happen. Any proposal must also take care that we never have a regression for releas

Re: Bits from the DAMs

obability to go to testing - as with all frozen packages). Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the DAMs

ebian-dpkg since > that's a logical place where more people are able to get involved > and find the archive much easier than a strangely named list on > the mad duck site. Agreed. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Take APT 0.6 discussion public!

managed to convert it into a flamewar that steals time and energy instead of helping. What do you think that your behaviour will promote - open discussions or hiding discussions from you? Andi PS: And, BTW, _please_ configure your MUA/MTA to not use localhost.localdomain. -- http://home.arco

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

n both the result and the acceptance by the relevante maintainers / delegates. That's all, rest is your call. Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

about what changes to the archive > > should or shouldn't happen? > Sure I can; which is why I wanted to discuss APT 0.6 outside of the > "hostile environment" That coming from the person who converted this thread into such a hostile one is, eh, interessting. Andi -

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

pparently not. And that's really sad, because asking nice helps in my experience. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

details, you might see it.) Can we perhaps stop this theoretical discussion, and work on solving real problems? Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Debian release strategy

ful if (in future) the release team would > communicate their list of release criteria well in advance of their > estimated time of release. I don't know what you'll consider as release criteria, but if you mean the list at http://release.debian.org/sarge_rc_policy.txt - that'

Re: Debian release strategy

* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050304 10:45]: > also sprach Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.04.1016 +0100]: > > > I think it would be helpful if (in future) the release team would > > > communicate their list of release criteria well in advance of th

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues?

* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050308 11:30]: > AFAIK, the blocker for the release is not the RC bug count, but the > missing infrastructure. Both are release blockers. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0

Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues?

* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050308 17:25]: > when you have been trained not to believe any timeline. We try to change that. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Tool to track release status (Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

* Martin Michlmayr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050315 06:20]: > Has anyone planned a "how to improve the release" BOF or talk for > DebConf5? Yes. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UN

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

ounting mishap > then I guess I can't either. Actually, there are things I'm much more worried about. E.g. lully being down for ages, and http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=lully reads: Status: down - root fs drive died, no response from local admin Cheers, Andi -- http://hom

Re: getting lully back on-line [Was, Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.]

Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: getting lully back on-line [Was, Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.]

* Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050414 13:45]: > * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-14 13:25]: > > > BTW, Noah Meyerhans at MIT offered two Alphas but so far he hasn't > > > been taken up on his offer. > > > >

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050422 09:15]: > [...] I usually ignore anonymous comments. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: snapshot.debian.net

ance > in this matter. I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency changes etc, or for fixing issues in some core packages where you need to take an older version for building a newer one. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 13:44]: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:38:50PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > > > I don't understand the animosity, this definitely is a bug and should > > > be fixed. Personally, I would even consider it grounds for postponing > > >

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 15:20]: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:49:54PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. > > > > > > > > It's rediculous that a "bug" that is present in woody already w

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 10:54]: > So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? That is not true. By default, KDE is not used. And even with using KDE, by default the random screen saver is not selected. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 14:20]: > Using a non-default desktop with a non-default screensaver configuration > will, under certain circumstances, potentially result in children being > able to see pornography. So, uh, no. We won't. Even worse. Using the default web browser with

Re: New project proposal: debian-lex

s it is not only known in English, but also in most other (roman) Languages for law. Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C Fachbegriffe des Schienenverkehrs #1 von Marc Haber in dasr Alles wird billige

Re: New project proposal: debian-lex

s > like 'flex'. Well, that's for you as an computer expert. If I ask an only-user with an university graduate, he will probably say law. Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C Fachbegriffe des S

Re: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website

er, Debian discourages the usage of non-free software, but the FSF encourages the usage of non-free documentation. So, it's obvious who has more reasons to remove something. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

Re: Do we need a debian-infrastructure list?

to d-d probably is also not hit by temporary outages.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

Re: Possible violation of the Debian trademark

s far as I could see). Well, I don't know what the appropriate action is (and I especially don't know about the legal status of our trademark in the different countries), but - I think someone with more knowledge should do something appropriate. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

Re: Possible violation of the Debian trademark

Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

Re: Debian, lists and discrimination

le with the same or a similar name, it's on the "might not" list. Please be aware that it's more or less not possible to go from names to reliable stats about gender distribution. For example, Andrea is male in Italy but female in Germany. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C

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