Re: [draft] need your help on the AI-DFSG general resolution prepration

2025-02-01 Thread Jamie Bainbridge
On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 at 15:57, M. Zhou wrote: > (1) do you know any important but missing reference materials? Is it worth explicitly mentioning weights are also released under very restrictive non-free licenses? The list of Apache/MIT licenses might mislead a reader into believing all weights are

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Emmanuel Arias
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:33:39PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:25:19PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > >On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 at 13:08, Roberto C. Sánchez <[1]robe...@debian.org> > >wrote: > > > > Since we as a project have left Twitter/X (as recently an

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Saturday, February 1, 2025 11:28:11 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote: > The decision about how we inform our users about our work is > fundamentally different from the decision about who we accept donations > from to support that work—as long as the donations do not influence our > free work. I sec

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread dovencio . doshorte
On Friday, January 31, 2025 12:33:39 PM MST Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:25:19PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > >On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 at 13:08, Roberto C. Sánchez > ><[1]robe...@debian.org> > > > >wrote: > > Since we as a project have left Twitter/X (as

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Thomas Goirand wrote on 31/01/2025 at 13:46:57+0100: > On 1/31/25 03:59, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> Since we as a project have left Twitter/X (as recently announced by our >> Publicity Team) on the basis of "We do not want to be present in a place >> where we cannot ensure that users will be re

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote on 31/01/2025 at 03:59:10+0100: > Since we as a project have left Twitter/X (as recently announced by our > Publicity Team) on the basis of "We do not want to be present in a place > where we cannot ensure that users will be respected and where abuse > happens without con

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:15:02PM -0700 schrieb Sam Hartman: > > I think the further away from free software something is, the higher the > bar we should apply for getting involved in the politics. > > I think both in the X and Google cases, Debian should not get involved > in the politics. Rig

Re: Debian sever ties with Google?

2025-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Anthony Serio
I think the broader issue that Roberto is referring to is that Google is an unethical company for the reasons Roberto mentions, and for all the reasons that are agreed upon by privacy advocates today. I personally believe these are legitimate reasons to sever ties with Google. The pertinent ques