Re: KDEquestion

2008-06-01 Thread Chamith Kumarage
Hi, Welcome to the debian community. For your questions, my idea is, if you have a good internet connectivity, it's best if you can do a minimal installation using CD1 and use the package manager to install other packages as your preference. Cheers! ~Chamith - *** There's no place like ${HO

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > I have no idea, because I don't understand why the above would warrant a > policy change wrt authorized_keys.

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > know it. I suppose etc/motd will eventually be updated to point to it > > also. > > What's the use if you can't manage to login? Is this just to show that you have no idea what this is about,

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > I.e., it's "for developers", which is not the same thing as "about > development". Funnily it got posted in a mail that is named "Misc _development_ news". :-) > It's a policy change which should be communicated to the developer body. [...] > Does this

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 00:42:57 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 07:18:14PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > Because bugs may also have been (or seem to have been overlooked). The > > risk here is that the person doing the NMU thinks "oh, that's an old > > issue and the fix

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > (hint: how would you place that file there in the first place?) Ask for a password change. Send your key with ssh-copy-id. Don't change your password and lose it. And then try to login with your SSH key. OK, one has to be a bit thick to do that. --

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Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > (hint: how would you place that file there in the first place?) > > Ask for a password change. Send your key with ssh-copy-id. Don't change > your password and lose it. And then try to login wit

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Philip Hands wrote: > If there's some reason that you want specific keys to only give access > to specific hosts, and if the reason justifies the effort, I suppose it > would be possible to come up with a way of tagging which hosts any > particular key should give access to in

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Luk Claes
Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 00:42:57 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 07:18:14PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: >>> Because bugs may also have been (or seem to have been overlooked). The >>> risk here is that the person doing the NMU thinks "oh, that's an

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:19AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > > > I have no idea, because I don't u

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:41:54PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > [1] With one exception: mails with large attachments may be accepted by > the BTS, but not reach the maintainer. For example, lists.d.o has a size > limit, while bugs.d.o does not (#475682). You have to make a point somewhere. Everythi

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 12:22:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > 5.11.1 When and how to do an NMU > > I propose to add "NMUs are usually not appropriate for team-maintained > packages. Consider sending a patch to the BTS instead." to the bullet > list. And we are they not able to respond to the

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 01:29:23PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > ... and IME they usually *are* for active teams, so I'm not sure I can > > buy your argument. I rather conclude that active teams won't risk > > anything with the procedure which is being proposed, while not active > > teams will s

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:10:42AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > While this is initially for our (DSA's) benefit, in that it makes applying > global changes easier, it's also for user's benefit. Er, "we're taking away your options for your own good"? :) > -- compare the effort required to ensure t

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads (NMUs)

2008-06-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Stefano Zacchiroli | Not that I am against requiring the specific NMU mention in the mail | (especially considering how cheap it as a requirement), but isn't the | package maintainer going to receive some upload notification for the | entrance in DELAYED? No, they are not. | Out of memory ind

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:19AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > I have no idea, because I don't underst

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 01/06/08 at 15:29 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 00:42:57 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > >> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 07:18:14PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > >>> Because bugs may also have been (or seem to have been overlooked). The > >>> risk he

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:47:30AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Ideally, I would hope that at some future date the openssh packages gain > support for disabling DSS user keys via the config and the debian.org > machines could use that, bringing the behavior back closer into line with > the stock

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads (NMUs)

2008-06-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 07:01:44PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | Out of memory indeed it is not, but probably it should (of course > | only the first time the package enters DELAYED, not each passing day > | ...). > This requires a fair bit more state than the queue currently has. I'm > not su

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11403 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: > So tagging a key as belonging to a particular host is insufficient - we need > the full authorized_keys semantics for setting key options (from=, command=, > no-port-forwarding, no-X11-forwarding, at least). And? You have that already, just add that in

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 31, 2008 at 06:08:56PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > On 01/06/08 at 00:22 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > 5.11.1 When and how to do an NMU > > > > I propose to add "NMUs are usually not appropriate for team-maintained > > packages. Consider sending a patch to the BTS instead.

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

2008-06-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:41:54PM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit : > On Saturday 31 May 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > * Have you clearly expressed your intention to NMU, at least on the > > BTS? Has the maintainer been notified of it? It is also a good > > idea to try to contact the ma