Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:47:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > "not changing things" is effectively a removal of non-free: > > > > Some bug-free contrib and non-free packages are waiting for more than > > one year to enter testing s

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:18:48PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 02:44:31PM +0100, Amaya wrote: > > - On a talk at Madrid, Miguel de Icaza who is a close friend of mine > > BTW, used female secretaries as examples of clueless users. > > Well, that's probably because that's

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Stephen Frost
* Benj. Mako Hill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so > easy your grandmother can use it" references was, "why always the > "grand*mother*?" Fact is, these little references paint the person as > stupid, or unskilled, or somehow "weaker"

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:12:26AM +0100, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so > easy your grandmother can use it" references was, "why always the > "grand*mother*?" Fact is, these little references paint the person as > stupid, or unskilled,

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-03-20 00:12:26 + Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so easy your grandmother can use it" [...] Ignoring the sexism, it's still rather insensitive to some. Would improving ease-of-use make debian usable by the

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Re: Section gnustep, was: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/

2004-03-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 08:57:46AM +0100, G?rkan Seng?n wrote: >> >> I believe we need a new section called "gnustep", just like we have >> >> one for gnome and kde. >> > I think this is a good idea. Would it start by being populated with >> > anything depending on g

Re: Section gnustep, was: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/

2004-03-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 05:56:12PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > shells 292 > > news327 > > embedded383 > > electronics 515 > > oldlibs 647 > ^^^ > Geez. [...] Really, I believe it would serve Debian bet

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Jonathan Walther
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:12:26AM +0100, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so easy your grandmother can use it" references was, "why always the "grand*mother*?" Fact is, these little references paint the person as stupid, or unskilled, or som

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 03:30:32PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-03-20 00:12:26 + Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so > >easy your grandmother can use it" [...] > > Ignoring the sexism, it's still rather insensit

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so > easy your grandmother can use it" references was, "why always the > "grand*mother*?" I remember talking to Susan about this and though my memory is a bit fuzzy I thought her point w